Session 5 July 2001

Laura

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July 5, 2001

Ark, Laura, Vincent Bridges, Orri E, Barry T

Q: Testing. (L to VB) Warm up your fingers. You're not going to go flaky on me are you? (VB) You never know. I'll try not to make it go around the board 8 times between letters. I have a terrible time when I start. (L) Hello, is anyone there? Hello, hello. [Extremely long pause.] Well. We are just sitting here with no action. (A) A** just walked by. Maybe we wait. They don't like kids. (L) They love kids; they just don't want them around. It's not healthy for them. (VB makes inaudible remark) (L) You nonbeliever! [Laughter] (VB) It didn't stop them the last time. (L) They were desperate. They had something to say, too. Maybe they thought they told us all we needed to know. [Long pause. L gives VB instruction on how to suspend the arm from the shoulder. Planchette begins to move in circles and stops on Capricorn.] (L) Hello. Is anyone there?
A: 1
Q: (L) Do you have a name?
A: UC !
Q: U I C ?
A: O U Look. [The word "look" is a whole word on the board and was not spelled out.]
Q: (L) 1 U seek, O U look?
A: S A R Wait. [This last is a whole word on the board and was not spelled out.] Listen. [Another whole word on the board was indicated.]
Q: Listen?
A: Yes. [Another whole word on the board.] M
Q: [Planchette stopped. Long pause.] (VB) It stopped. (L) It's like in between Sagittarius and Capricorn.
A: Look. [Again indicating a whole word.]
Q: (L) So, what have they said so far? (A) Once "U C." (VB) What are we supposed to be looking for, or looking at?
A: Lara look. [Spelled "Lara," whole word "look."]
Q: (VB) Well, they spelled your name. (L) Yeah, but they left out a letter.
A: Laura look. [Spelled name, whole word "look."]
Q: (VB) Is there some reason why you left the "u" out?
A: Yes. Lara L U C.
Q: (L) What is "Lara Luc?" (VB) Okay, are we talking to the Cassiopaeans? Or are we just scooting around in astral space here?
A: Cassiopaea, Laura... [Planchette begins to spiral slowly.]
Q: (VB) Okay, what is this? (L) It's still turning. We did that in the beginning a lot. It builds energy. [Planchette continues to spiral.]
A: Aura lock.
Q: (VB) Okay guys, don't make it fly off the board, alright? [Planchette spiraling faster and faster.] (A) It is spiraling very fast. (VB)In my mind's eye see a little green flame planchette. I can follow it around the board with my eyes closed. (L) You're not supposed to have your eyes closed. They're supposed to be open. (VB) I'm actually doing better with them closed. Um, is there something to that little green flame I'm seeing guys? Anything you want to tell me about it? [No answer. Planchette flies out from under VB's fingers.] (VB) Okay, thank you for flying out from under my hand. And it stopped on that same spot. (L) Okay, they said they were doing an "aura lock?" (VB) Yes. That's why I asked about the green flame.
A: 3 body junctim ground rail motqetuh.
Q: (L) I don't know what they are saying.
A: o s e over k o r e 5 k
Q: (L) It stopped. What did they say? (VB unintelligible remark) (L) We have to start somewhere until it's grooved. It's called "grooving."
A: New groove. [Planchette spirals.]
Q: (L) That's why they're spiraling. And they just want to spiral. [Pause while planchette continues to move in circles.] And it makes your arm tired. (VB) Maybe that's the point? [Long silence while planchette continues to spiral.] I'm getting in the groove here. (BT) It will wear out your muscle response. (L) Yeah. That may be so because of... (VB) Brother skeptic's desire to make things go a certain way? [Planchette continues to spiral.] (L) Busy, busy, busy. Boy, they are just busy, aren't they? (BT) Pretty energetic spiraling. (L) My arm is about ready to fall off. All right! Maybe ask some questions, even if we stick with some simple ones here in the beginning.
A: Time to urge everyo [spiraling] ne to under (L sighs) (VB) Come on. (L sighs) stand ri ri ri de.
Q: [VB rubbing shoulder.] (L to VB) You hurting? (VB) Yeah. (L) That's good. Something's happening. (VB) Well yeah. The thing's flying around the board so fast I can't... (L) No, it's doing other stuff, just trust me. (VB) What did we get? (BT) "Time to urge everyone to understand ride." (L) In other words, that you're supposed to ride, not drive. I think they're having trouble doing things because you like to drive, not ride. (VB) Well, I'm doing my best... (L) I know. (VB) This is so much better than the last time. (L) Okay. Well, I'm just telling you. There's probably unconscious reasons for this. (VB talking seemingly to air) My mistake. Leave me out of it [Irritated]. (L) Well, just stop pressing hard. Just enjoy it. You're supposed to enjoy the ride. (VB) Does your shoulder hurt as much as mine? [Laughter.] (L) No, but it used to. And it probably hurt a whole helluva lot more.
A: Other method other purpose board is good for grooving so enjoy ride!
Q: (L to VB) Well, you need to be grooved. (VB) Well what's the other method, other purpose? (A) It's open to you to ask. (L) Is it advisable to continue to work with the board? In addition to the other method? [Long pause. Spiraling.]
A: Do it here right now.
Q: (L) Do what here right now?
A: Mirror.
Q: (L) Damn it! (VB) I tell you, you may be grooving me... (A) Are we having fun? (L) "Do it here right now?" Why? Sorry guys, I had to ask.
A: See 4 density.
Q: (L) They aren't gonna let me out of it, are they?
A: Laura now!
Q: (L) Will I see our $300,000 bux?
A: Open maybe gain insight about funds look
Q: (BT to L) Okay, is that just you, or with the moon full or what? (L to BT) Well, I don't think it makes any difference. We did it before with Ark and VB. [Long pause.] Any other words of wisdom before we set the mirror up? (VB) Uh, actually guys, I've got a couple of questions. Would you kind of help me out here, since I'm the "newbie?" I know she needs to look in the mirror, but you, what can you tell me about all this weird stuff? Like what do I need to know?
A: Laura look
Q: (VB) Alright, come on, come on. I'm not through yet! I am the stubborn one guys, I'm sorry. If Laura looks, is there anything we need to know about her looking to help her do it?
A: Hypnosis laura future time new look deed ok not much human toil to funds
Q: (A) What does this mean? (VB peremptorily) Okay, the "deed ok" is, I was silently asking, "I don't want to hypnotize Laura; I'm afraid of being another Dr. Puharich" So I think the "deed ok" was, they were answering me in the middle, which may have thrown off the "much human," because I was resisting... Oh, no, no, I don't want to do this; you guys really don't want to do this do you? (L) Well, you've got to remember, VB, all the work that was done to prevent me from being able to do it naturally, it has to be overcome, and we don't have a lot of time left. (VB) Okay. I would prefer to do it another way, but I suppose they're not helping me much, though, are they? (L) Well, why don't you ask a question to the mirror? (VB) Well, this is very interesting isn't it? (L) It's a full moon. [Long pause.] (VB) Okay guys, I'm getting the feeling that you're telling us.... [Tape ends, VB restates lost question on next side.] Are you telling me the only reason I'm here is to make sure she can actually get deep enough to see through the mirror? If not the only reason, maybe a big part of the reason?
A: [Long silence. No response.]
Q: (VB) Say something guys.
A: Percival.
Q: (VB) Okay, there's five of us at the moment. Is this making a difference?
A: Yes.
Q: (VB) Should we cut back down to three for the mirror?
A: No. T I u e t h u l t o i t
Q: (L) What was that? Try again, guys. (VB) Wait, wait, wait, wait. (L) What was this word? This "tiue" whatever?
A: Ties you to it guide Laura mirror look room is mirage.
Q: (L) What is it? (VB) They don't usually spell that bad. Okay, more clarity please, on "room is mirage." What do you mean by that?
A: People in room perceive mirage.
Q: (L) Oh, I get it. The people in the room add energy to the viewing so it enables it to come through better and clearer, is that what you are saying?
A: Yes.
Q: (VB) Okay, we're going to look in the mirror. We're going to do it right after you finish this next question. But you need to tell us the steps. You need to tell us exactly how you want it done.
A: point out perception is just mirage and only look for what is real
Q: (VB) What the hell is that? (BT reads back) That was a direct response to you asking for steps. (VB) Guys that really doesn't help. (A) Point out that perception, yes? Is just a mirage, right? (VB) But they're saying that the perception of everyone in the room should be a mirage, that we're giving energy to the mirage, so how do we see through it?
A: people help move perception satisfactorily jump start
Q: (VB) Okay. Is there anything else, and if not, we'll go right to the mirror. Anything else we need to know?
A: [No response. Long pause.]
Q: (VB) Absolutely nobody just moved close to me right now. Nobody moved? (A & B) No. (L) Why? (V) Ooooh, nothing. (A) Something touched you? (VB) That's right. So what, I need another pat on the shoulder. (B) It was your right shoulder? (VB) Yeah. [End of tape.]

Mirror Session
VB: As you breathe, stay focused on the mirror. And, at the corners of your eyes, allow yourself to become aware of the room. You can see almost all of the room out of the corners of your eyes. Stay focused on the mirror. Take a deep breath, release, again deep breath, release. As you breathe, allow the perceptions of the room to fade. The room we are sitting in is a mirage. It's empty. There's nothing here but you and the mirror. Focus your eyes deep into the mirror, and let your perceptions of everything in the room, except the mirror, let them fade. As if it was a mirage in the desert, waving, disappearing, until nothing is left but the mirror. You can see the surface of the mirror, you can perceive a boundary or surface to the mirror. Everything else is fading out. As you look into the mirror, it's like looking into a very still piece of water. Look deep into that surface, allowing everything else in the room to fade away. Breathing comfortably, relaxing thoroughly, focusing on the mirror. Allowing the room to fade away until nothing remains but the mirror. I want you to focus on the mirror; feel the room fading. Allow yourself to become completely focused; all of your awareness, all of your energy; focused on the mirror; feeling that boundary, the surface of the mirror. In just a moment I'm going to count from ten to one. With each count you will feel your body getting very light, your body fading away like the rest of the mirage. With each count, as your body fades, feel your awareness going through the boundary, until at the count of one, you will be looking with your eyes open deep into the mirror, past the boundary, and deep within the mirror, you will see only that which is real. As we count back now from ten to one, feeling your body fading away, until is nothing is left but your focus on the mirror. As you focus on the mirror, look deep into its surface, until at the count of one you will be deep within the mirror, seeing only that which is real. Now, counting back: [Countdown.]
Deeply focused into the mirror, just allow the energies to come. Focusing on the mirror. Beneath the surface. Just allow the energies to surface. Keeping your eyes open now, stay focused on the mirror, begin to feel or see or sense what is deep within the mirror. Staying focused on the mirror; just feel your body; staying focused on the mirror, just allow the sensations in your body to drift away.
Deep, slow breaths. Focused on the mirror. Allow any bodily sensations just to fade away. Any discomfort, any tension, just allow it to fade away. Staying focused on the mirror. Allowing the energies to emerge. Looking deep within the mirror.
Just describe what you see and what it is.
[Long pause.]
Whatever you see -start - just allow it to emerge.
[Long pause.]
Whatever it is, just describe what you are seeing in the mirror.
Laura: Lights.
VB: Good. Just keep looking. All the lights. Just keep describing what you see.
Laura: Plasma clouds.
VB: Just stay focused on the mirror. On the clouds. Just tell me what you see. Just describe what you see.
Laura: [Mostly inaudible. Seems to be descriptions of amorphous cloud shapes that move and come and go.]
VB: Stay focused on the mirror. Take a deep breath and allow all bodily sensation to fade away. You can talk easily and without effort. The awareness of your body is fading away as you gaze deep within the mirror. Just describe what you see.
Laura: Nothing in particular. Just amorphous lights and clouds. Shapes. Geometric figures.
VB: Pick one of these figures and look very closely; just describe what you see.
Laura: [Descriptions of shapes and colors, clouds of light, coming and going.]
VB: Keep looking. Can you follow one figure.
Laura: Well, it's like amorphous. Moving clouds. Some of them billow slowly, some of them are just flitting by.
VB: As you see one flit past, reach out and slow it down.
Laura: Oh, you can't slow them down.
VB: Speed up to their level to look very closely. What do you see?
Laura: Nothing but lights and clouds.
VB: Take a deep breath. Again a deep breath. And release. With every exhale, every exhale, you become more and more focused on the depths of the mirror. Breathe in, as you release, allow your awareness to go deeper into the mirror. Deep into the mirror. Good. What do you see?
[Long pause.]
VB: Deeper into the mirror. Nothing but the images in the mirror. Deep into the mirror. Breathing deep into the mirror. This room and your body are the mirage. What you see in the mirror is reality. Open yourself to it. Feel it as real, and describe what you see. On the count of three, you will let go of all awareness except for the images deep within the mirror. [Countdown.] Just describe what you see.
Laura: Indefinite shapes and colors and lights. Figures waiting to take form.
VB: Describe what you see.
Laura: Geometric light. That's the only way I can describe it.
VB: Just let go and move deep into the mirror. Go deep into the mirror, so that you're in the space of the mirror. You're in the space of the geometrical lights. With your mind's eye you can look around in the space; just tell me what you see.
Laura: The problem is, a specific question has to be asked in order for anything to form. [Sound of beating heart on tape.] Vague directions don't seem to go anywhere except into vague amorphous representations.
VB: Okay. You need to ask a question to see something. Relax completely. Stay open and focus deep within the mirror. Ask your question.
Laura: I am not the one to ask.
VB: Why not?
Laura: It's not appropriate.
VB: Why not? Okay! What are you experiencing right now?
Laura: Sensations of constriction.
VB: What is constricting?
Laura: Asking for the self, serves only the self. I cannot be the one to ask. It is inward directed, and constricts.
VB: [Loud smacking noise.] Just keep looking. What are you feeling now?
Laura: It's better now. Some danger was passed.
VB: Breathe deep. As you release the exhale, sink back into that space. Deep into the space. See the clouds. We would like for Laura to see an image of the C's. Can we see an image of the Cassiopaeans?
Laura: In the mind's eye.
VB: You're looking in the mirror. Watch it form. Tell me what you see?
Laura: Shapes, light.
VB: Keep looking. Relax into it. Can you show Laura more about this image?
Laura: I see an image of a spiral galaxy spinning in space.
VB: Can you show Laura 4th density?
Laura: That is inappropriate phrasing. It causes constriction; constriction in my chest.
VB: Why?
Laura: Because it is phrased so as to be a question from self to self.
VB: On the board, you said that Laura could see 4th density if we looked in the mirror. What did you mean? Can you show Laura what you meant?
Laura: What about 4th density do you wish to see?
VB: Try not to merge with the mirror. What does Laura need to see about 4th density that is so important that we do it now? Show that to her.
Laura: That's an inappropriate request.
VB: On the board, you suggested that there was a reason why Laura needed to look now, and that it involved seeing 4th density.
Laura: There are many questions.
VB: Go on.
Laura: Why don't you ask them?
VB: [Voice becoming tense and hard.] Laura, I want you make sure that you see or hear C's and that you repeat what they say to you. Don't just answer in your voice. Do you understand?
Laura: I understand that it comes through me.
VB: Okay. That's what I'm saying. See it or hear it in the mirror. Okay? See it, hear it, coming from the mirror. Connect through the mirror. And let the being in the mirror speak. Why does Laura need to see 4th density now?
Laura: The answers to the questions can be obtained by seeing when the questions are phrased properly.
VB: [Obviously irritated.] Okay now Laura, just look in the mirror, keep your eyes on the mirror, and literally what do you see?
Laura: I see shafts of light to the left, billowing lights at the upper right, fluctuations of light in the central depths, flashing lights that are random throughout, amorphous images coming and going.
VB: [Very authoritative.] Okay. Show Laura what she needs to see NOW.
Laura: The question must be asked specifically in proper terms.
VB: What, in 4th density, does she need to see now?
Laura: Answers to the questions.
VB: How will she see these answers?
Laura: When the question is asked.
VB: How will she see these answers?
Laura: When the questions are asked, the answers appear. Vague questions receive vague answers.
VB: So there is nothing that you need to communicate, other than what we ask?
Laura: Only if you ask, can you receive an answer.
[Long silence.]
VB: Okay, Laura, take a deep, deep breath. Feel where you are, feel your psychic state, feel the openness in the mirror. Now I want you to just leave that behind, and I want you to consciously step out. I want you to look at your connection to the mirror, between the chair and the mirror; and what do you see?
Laura: I see a silhouette like shape.
VB: In the mirror?
Laura: Yes. It's like a silhouette-like cut-out.
VB: Okay, keep looking at the cut-out.
[End of 45 minute tape. Continuation on reverse begins in mid-sentence.]
VB: The figure is beginning to change. As you watch, you will be able to see more and more. What do you see happening to the figure?
Laura: The figure is there, and there are flitting images in the depths. Amorphous.
VB: What do you see in the blackness?
Laura: Lights, emerging and receding.
VB: Follow the lights. Follow the lights. Just keep watching the lights. What are they doing? Where are they going?
Laura: They come from the center and sparkle out in all directions.
VB: Focus on the center. Allow your awareness to move through that center. Keep looking. Describe what you see when you move through the center.
Laura: It's moving, waving.
VB: Now stay in contact with the waving. Feel that waving.
Laura: Ooh! Look at that!
VB: What did you see? Describe it.
Laura: Living light. Iridescent light. Iridescent shapes. Like shimmering eggs.
VB: Can you see them now?
Laura: No. They emerged and receded.
VB: Feel that waving darkness.
Laura: Yes. It's purple.
VB: [Voice very sharp.] What's the purpose of doing the mirror work?
Laura: To bond with another reality.
VB: What reality?
Laura: Fourth density.
VB: And what in 4th density do you need to bond with?
Laura: Awareness. When you see, you become more aware. And the more aware you are, the more you are able to operate in that reality, to become more free of restriction and deception.
VB: Can you see the eggs again?
Laura: Now I see a shaft of light coming down from the upper left to the lower right, like a light beam.
VB: I want you to imagine that you're moving into that light. See yourself in the mirror moving into that light beam. Does anything change?
Laura: Everything's brighter.
VB: How do you feel in the light beam?
Laura: Fine. It pulsates.
VB: Will you allow Laura to see - or can Laura see...
Laura: If the appropriate question is asked.
VB: Can Laura see what's happening through the mirror?
Laura: If the appropriate question is asked.
VB: Can you show Laura where the artifact is?
Laura: What artifact?
VB: The artifact that was discussed on the board, in the past.
Laura: At the appropriate time.
VB: So that means you could show it but you're not going to show it now?
Laura: There are several steps that must precede such.
VB: Can you tell us about those steps?
Laura: You have to ask a simple question. It has to be phrased simply and specifically.
VB: [Sharp and impatient.] Anybody ELSE want to give it a try with a question?
Ark: Can you see kabbalah tree? Its real structure? Through all the densities?
Laura: Umm! As close a representation as there is, it seems is...
VB: [Interrupting] Can you allow yourself to see it by looking through the mirror...
Laura: [Apparently ignoring VB] Now this is very strange.
VB: Describe it.
Laura: Aaaah! This is a very fluid place! Whooo!
VB: Describe it. How do you mean "fluid?"
Laura: Ahh! Well, light doesn't go in straight beams here. It... it ... it's like ropes or strings. You ask about kaballah tree and suddenly I see ropes and strings, structures... the object that we draw as the kaballah tree is very structured and static and has nothing to do with the real thing! Here it is - and it's almost indescribable.
VB: Keep looking. What happens as you just watch? Can you still see the tree?
Laura: Yes, it's living light that moves and connects like a vast network with infinite...
VB: [Interrupts] Can you show Laura the time machine?
Laura: Would YOU like to see the time machine?
VB: Sure. Can you show Laura the time machine?
Laura: That's an inappropriate request.
VB: Why so?
Laura: It's not phrased properly.
VB: Can Laura see the time machine?
Laura: Would YOU like to see the time machine?
VB: I would like for Laura to see the time machine and describe it to us.
Laura: It seems to be an object about the size of a very large breadbox. It emanates a field, or a glowing beam. I'm not sure if you only have to be in contact with it, or stand in the beam, or if you just stand near it. It's clear that one does not get "inside" it, like in the movies. The field it produces is the important thing. The beam is like in the movie where they shine the beams up in the sky and wave them around; it's like that, only it has a shape. It's not long, straight and tubular, it's more cone shaped. So yes, there it is, it's...
VB: [Interrupts] Now I want you to stay focused...
Laura [Ignoring the interruption] ...it has angles to it, metal plates, and the structure itself is like some sort of geometric tubing...
VB: Will Laura be able to remember and draw it?
Laura: Actually, in a funny sort of way, it's similar to the shape of the static tree of life on it's side, doubled and inverted like having a mobius twist...
VB: Is this the Ark?
Laura: Yeah... it...
VB: Ark. Noah's Ark. The Ark of the covenant... the Ark of Time...
Laura: The object of which you speak, goes inside... it's the field...
VB: Now, keep looking, and stay outside the mirror; could you show Laura, so she can describe it for us, where, in time, this machine originates?
Laura: Ah! That's odd. The answer comes as 10,000 BC.
VB: Where is it in our immediate future?
Laura: Yes.
VB: Can you show Laura where it is in the immediate future?
Laura: In the immediate future.
VB: Can you show her where on the planet it is, when it enters our future?
Laura: At the appropriate time.
VB: Why is this not the appropriate time?
Laura: Because there would be danger.
VB: Stay on your side... 10,000 BC. Where has it been between then and the immediate future?
Laura: It's been found and used numerous times. It was used for very negative purposes, and it was deemed appropriate to retrieve it and...
VB: [Interrupts] Now don't get pulled in the mirror... stay on this side!
Laura: [Inaudible remarks]
VB: Can you show Laura so she can describe to us, the catastrophic situation in our future, our near future?
Laura: It seems as though it will be a progression. Like the beginning of rain, when the first few big, cold drops fall; and then a pause followed by a few more drops; and then, a downpour.
VB: Describe what you are seeing?
Laura: I see rocks - but they aren't very large. They are like the size of your fist. Just a few. And they make something of a stir. An uproar. People will be excited... very upset. It looks like just two - two small rocks. And then nothing else happens for awhile, and then they forget about it. It all dies down. And then, a third, a fourth, a fifth and a sixth - and maybe even a seventh... isolated events, or so it seems. Still small. And then, a big one. All this will go on over a period of months.
VB: Take a deep breath, stay on this side of the mirror... looking through. Keep looking; look through the mirror. Would you show Laura, so that she can describe for us, the situation concerning Percival, Percival Three.
Laura: The previously mentioned time machine, placed precisely at a specific location - and it's not exactly clear whether the action - there's a choice at that point in time, you know...
VB: What kind of choice?
Laura: A group can leave with the machine, or a group can bond their awareness, and utilize the device to shift the earth out of the path of destruction. It's not a shift in material terms, it's a shift in time.
VB: So that the comet will hit where the earth isn't anymore?
Laura: Right.
VB: How, much of a jump does this require?
Laura: Oh! Well, in terms of time, a miss is as good as a mile!
VB: How much of a jump in time is required?
Laura: A day.
VB: The space that the earth travels during one revolution on its axis, is enough to avoid a direct hit?
Laura: Yes.
VB: What would the effects be of moving the planet and everyone on it back or forward a day?
Laura: If you can do it, most people, after the shift, will forget that there was ever a danger.
VB: Is that a good thing?
Laura: [Sighs]
VB: Yeah, I know. Trick question. Now take a deep breath. Pull back, come out just a little. Let Laura's consciousness hear me clearly. Is there anything bothering you about this contact? Anything you can consciously feel while maintaining your connection? Anything at all disturbing you.
Laura: There's only a disturbance in the questioning. The questioning is constricting and directing consciousness. Questioning needs to be open and it's as though the answer can only come through uncorrupted if the question is framed in a non-assumption way. For me to act as the intermediary of what is being viewed, for others to ask questions, the questions must not restrict. This restriction is felt physically. There is some constriction - instantly, when the question is phrased so as to shift it from me asking myself - me asking the other me - rather than holding the responsibility for the question yourself. Do you understand?
VB: Well, my next question is why does Laura keep slipping into the mirror? Why is it so hard for her to stay on this side?
Laura: Ahhh... There is a formation of a bond of awareness. There is another self in that not-too-distant future time that is me. It's me communicating with me; it's the C's approaching me; and because it's closer from 4th density, its easier to communicate back and forth if I merge with myself in the future. It's like bringing two soap bubbles close to each other - they just become one. It's not the negative thing you...
VB: It seems to me that we want to avoid that happening.
Laura: Not necessarily. Each and every one of us needs to begin merging with the higher self in terms of awareness... [inaudible]
VB: Why am I sensing negativity?
Laura: Insecurity.
VB: I'm quite comfortable with my own energy. Is that all that is at work here?
Laura: Oooh! [Sees something in mirror, apparently]
VB: What are you seeing?
Laura: Well, they are like combination puppies and flowers... [Tape ends]
...something that was with you; I can't say that it was in you or around you; something that you still carry with you, it's almost like a very heavy suitcase. It actually looks like you have to force it to close by standing on it and shoving stuff in the cracks and tying it closed with straps because it is ready to burst open.
VB: Okay, now look deeper in the mirror, through the mirror. Just keep describing what you see.
Laura: Ummmm. Now I see amorphous moving lights and clouds.
VB: Keep moving through that waving, purple darkness. In that space, just look around very carefully and tell me what you see.
Laura: [Inaudible.]
VB: Will you allow Laura to look around in the space so she can describe it for us.
Laura: Well, this is funny, have you ever seen a cartoon with a pencil being? [Laughs] Oh, that's funny. That's what it's like.
VB: The stick figure is like dowsing rods?
Laura: No. That's... that's... [Laughter] What a play on words! They are so funny! Core. You know the words "core being?" Well, it's not a joke! [Laughter] Just think of yourself as a light being, in a sense, and in another, as not so amorphous as some people would think. There is some plasticity. You know how in this reality, the solid substance seems to be what it is and we have no control over it? Well, in 4th density, there is amorphous substance all around, and there is the "core being," who can assemble this substance by an act of will. It then becomes more structured in the same way food, in our reality, becomes your body, though here it takes a long period of assimilating and converting. There, it is rather quick. There is the core being - and it's really a core!
VB: Like an apple core?
Laura: No, a core - like tubular almost. But you know, most people don't utilize it as such, because they like to play with the materials available. It's more fun. But, it's not necessary, and under different circumstance, they can remove all those things exactly the same way we take off our clothes. [Inaudible] It's just more valuable.
VB: Now, you are using "you." Is that a general term, or is the stick figure me?
Laura: Anybody in 4th density.
VB: Are we in 4th density?
Laura: I am.
VB: So that's YOU, you are seeing in 4th density?
Laura: Me and others.
VB: So the stick figure is you in 4th density?
Laura: It is the visual representation of the core being of any 4th density individual. It is the essence.
VB: Take a deep breath. There are mechanisms at work that I, personally, am uncertain of. Is there anything you can tell me to make this easier?
Laura: Can you ask more specific questions? What, specifically are you uncertain about?
VB: I'm uncertain of the nature of the contact. I am uncertain of the nature of the perception. I'm uncertain of why I'm involved the way that I am. I'm uncertain why it's necessary to do this at all.
Laura: Okay.
VB: Any response?
Laura: Ask the question. I cannot answer if you do not ask.
VB: Why am I having these uncertainties I just listed? What can we do to make this whole process easier?
Laura: The uncertainty relates to - it's difficult to answer the way you have asked it "why are you having these uncertainties."
VB: Are the uncertainties part of the process?
Laura: How do you perceive the uncertainties?
VB: I perceive the uncertainties... Is the uncertainty an artifact of how I'm having to do this? Does the artifact come from our clumsiness in doing the process?
Laura: It is unfamiliar territory; it is an unfamiliar process to you, in particular, because the essential nature of it requires as much openness...
VB: [Interrupts sharply] OKAY! Why am I seeing what Laura is seeing?
Laura: That has to do a great deal with why you are part of the process at the moment.
VB: Why am I part of the process?
Laura: That has to do with genetic linkages, and choices made at other levels to do certain things at a certain point in time, both at a future point in time...
VB: If I decided NOT to do this, what would be the effect?
Laura: Someone else would step up and fill your shoes. The Universe is infinitely capable of taking care of itself.
VB: Is that what is going on here? Is the universe trying to take care of itself?
Laura: Oh, yes! That's...
VB: What do you see?!
Laura: I'm just seeing that you, me, we ARE the universe. It acts through us.
VB: What should we do - we need to know - in order to get funding for our research?
Laura: [Laughter] Well, I have to say that the first thing that pops up is a series of numbers and I'll just tell them - 6, 14, 25, 48, 52.
VB: Are these dates?
Laura: I don't know.
VB: Well ask 'em, are they dates?
Laura: You ask them.
VB: [Yells] Are they dates?!
Laura: No.
VB: What are they?
Laura: Numbers to use as you choose.
VB: And what should we do with these numbers?
Laura: Whatever you choose.
Ark: I think I know what to do with these numbers.
VB: Is that a question?
Ark: No. [Inaudible]
VB: Well, I don't follow you. Say that again?
Ark: I think they are probably lottery numbers.
VB: Are these lottery numbers?
Laura: They could be.
VB: Why won't you be more specific? I'm asking a very specific question?
Laura: They could be lottery numbers; they could be used in any number of ways. They could apply to choices that are taken over the next three months. You may encounter someone who has these numbers involved with them in some way; you may find these numbers on a page in a book which will then tell you something you need to know. These things come in so many layers; there is any number of applications; so don't close off other possibilities and say they are just "lottery numbers." They could be, but they could also be so much more.
VB: [Sighs with exasperation] It's suspicious to me that gave 52. Am I just exercising my suspicions?
Laura: You can reverse.
VB: We already have a 25.
Laura: Then you have two 52's.
VB: Okay. Let's go in a different direction. Take a deep breath. Can you show Laura, so she can describe for us, what we need to do, to get the next step started?
Laura: Ask without limits, and everything will fall into place. Do not worry, there are things moving in areas that we don't even know about, that will converge in amazing ways, and it's better not to even know, because then you will anticipate and block it.
VB: [Sharply] Okay! Why was Ari here today? Can you tell me what that is?
Laura: He has a very strong interest; he wishes he could be as bold as he used to be; and as free. However, it may not be possible for him to get free of the bonds that restrict him. However, the energy exerted in any direction, even exerted toward an individual who does not respond to it the way you wish, when they leave your presence, may carry that energy with them into the rest of the reality. And it is there available to someone else. Any energy put into a goal, even if you talk to 25 people who are the wrong people, the fact that you are putting energy into a goal openly...
VB: [Interrupts sharply] What was that image you just saw?!
Laura: Well, just lights and geometric figures...
VB: Okay, these lights have some sort of function. What's the function?
Laura: They are like the substance from images will ultimately coalesce in a very solid and realistic form. These are incipient image formation stuff.
VB: I get the feeling that some of these lights, some of these seed thoughts, whatever, want to come through the mirror into this reality. Is that a correct assumption?
Laura: I don't see that at all; no.
VB: What's giving me that impression?
Laura: Well, you said it: assumption. You have a lot of assumptions. It's very hard to work with all those assumptions. [Inaudible descriptions of mirror images]
VB: And that's NOT crossing over into our reality?
Laura: No. They are just looking. Like friendly puppies; energy forms. They are cute.
VB: Anybody else got a question?
Ark: What was this thing when Vincent felt something touch his arm?
Laura: Vincent has some friends who travel with him, and they try to keep him out of trouble. It seems like, in this particular instance, somebody was banging on his shoulder just to let him know he was okay.
VB: And what kind of friends travel with me?
Laura: Actually, one of them looks like - he has a suit on, with a watch chain dangling from his waistcoat - but he doesn't have the time, which is funny. Brown suit, shoe boots, average height, he points his finger a lot; glasses. He's fond of you. Can't say that he is an "attachment," but he likes to be around you.
VB: Where's he from?
Laura: Actually, what I am seeing is obviously a projection. He is projecting this image, and I almost feel like, in a funny sort of way, he's maybe even you in another life.
VB: Okay, he's not the one who patted me on the shoulder. [Very strong voice effect] Did the C's pat me on the shoulder, both then, and did they burn the hand print on my shoulder back in the past?
Laura: [Feeling extreme constriction and unable to resist the command/assumption, very low and weak voice] Yes. [Immediate sensations of choking.]
VB: Okay. Now, the C's are quite aware of all the different things that are in my luggage. Will you ask them to show you what is in my luggage?
Laura: Dirty underwear!! [Laughter. Constriction released suddenly and the answer erupts almost before VB finishes speaking. The instant the question was asked, the large, overstuffed, strapped suitcase mentioned earlier was seen to spring open and hundreds of pairs of dirty underwear flew everywhere. They weren't just normally soiled, but were stained with fecal matter and it was as though, instead of washing them, or admitting that they needed washing, each pair was hidden away and new ones were added until they were soiled and added to the collection. However, all of this visual imagery was not requested, so it was not given in words.]
VB: Keep looking! What else? Come on!
Laura: [Strong voice] There is some real funny old fashioned clothes. I swear, this pair of pants - if you ever wore them out in public don't say you know me, they are awful pants - and they have suspenders. There's a leather case.
VB: Open the leather case. What do you see?
Laura: In the leather case there is a bunch of little bottles; they are bottles of pills; they are blue. There's a shaving kit, a comb; the comb has missing teeth...
VB: Do you see anything else in there?
Laura: There's handkerchiefs, an old mirror, and there are clean, white shirts, that have never been taken out of the packages. You have never worn these shirts.
VB: Now, you're doing real good. Now, if the C's would be so kind as to explain to Laura why I carry this luggage...
Laura: Why do you carry it? Because you can't let go.
VB: Why can't I let go?
Laura: Because you always want to be prepared.
VB: And what am I prepared for?
Laura: You're prepared for a trip, that's one thing. And you're afraid that something is going to make you get on the wrong train.
VB: Yep. Can you translate that "wrong train" into more direct terms?
Laura: Well, there's a funny thing about that. It's like the real problem is you think you don't have any money to buy what you need when you get there.
VB: [Sharply] Okay, this funny but we're wasting time. Anybody else got another question?
Orri: [Asks question about health issue.] Is there a particular course of study to follow to be of greater service to the process of furthering free will?
Laura: [Comments on the health issue.] [Tape ends. Large section missing from the beginning of the next tape.]
VB: If the C's will be so kind as to give Laura a symbol that she can see in her mind's eye, that will allow her to quickly establish this contact...
Laura: I've got it.
VB: Do you need to describe it?
Laura: No.
VB: See it very clearly. Now, you will break the contact by seeing this image fade. And as it fades, the mirror will come back to just being a mirror. Coming back into your body. Take a deep breath. [Countdown to awaken.]
 

Mona

Jedi Master
I am not aware of this session, but WOW, thanks Laura. I tried to hypnotise myself in a similar way in the psychomantium tent before, but it sure would help if someone else was there to help me instead. I was only able to put myself in a very comfortable relaxing trance. I have not used the psychomantium since last year and I will not do so until I get my emotions ready for it. For now, I am not ready. But I am definitely going to study this transcript. thanks again
 
J

JAKSUN

Guest
Mona said:
I am not aware of this session, but WOW, thanks Laura. I tried to hypnotise myself in a similar way in the psychomantium tent before, but it sure would help if someone else was there to help me instead. I was only able to put myself in a very comfortable relaxing trance. I have not used the psychomantium since last year and I will not do so until I get my emotions ready for it. For now, I am not ready. But I am definitely going to study this transcript. thanks again
Mona, this transcript appears in "The Wave" book six in appendix B. In that book you get to see the session in a much larger context which you will find very, very interesting I am sure. On this thing we agree:
but it sure would help if someone else was there to help me instead.
FWIW We must remember to stay within the safety of our network. Forgive me if I have it wrong but you sound just like me, trying to go it alone - which is understandable considering the world of psychopaths we are trying to escape from. Divided we fall.

I too got interested in this psychomantium device, but like what was said on this thread ( http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3482.msg22106#msg22106 ), doing the EE proceedure over time will also get you the 4D experiences you will need naturally (as I have experienced too). The EE program is a MUST before anything else OSIT. :) Happy trails Mona.
 

Galaxia2002

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
o s e over k o r e 5 k sounds to me like "see over core fake" maybe revealing the nature of VB.
 

Bluestar

Jedi Council Member
Thank you Laura for again taking time to publish on the forum these transcripts.

For some reason while reading this, I was getting frustrated at VB and his line of questioning. It appears to me that he could not figure out what specific questions he wanted to ask. Instead I believe he wanted to just be told what was in 4D. Thought he was missing the point. osit!
 

DavidHP

Padawan Learner
Today I felt like reading older transcripts and this is the first one I read, all I can say is " Amazing!! " Lots of information here.
 

knowlaw777

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
Bluestar said:
Thank you Laura for again taking time to publish on the forum these transcripts.

For some reason while reading this, I was getting frustrated at VB and his line of questioning. It appears to me that he could not figure out what specific questions he wanted to ask. Instead I believe he wanted to just be told what was in 4D. Thought he was missing the point. osit!
He seems to be obsessed with physical survival and finding a machine (such as the grail or the ark) and use Laura to survive the transition and remain in the physical realm.
 

Steve M.

Jedi Master
I have a request. Could we go back in time and pretend [VB] said no?

Laura: There's only a disturbance in the questioning. The questioning is constricting and directing consciousness. Questioning needs to be open and it's as though the answer can only come through uncorrupted if the question is framed in a non-assumption way. For me to act as the intermediary of what is being viewed, for others to ask questions, the questions must not restrict. This restriction is felt physically. There is some constriction - instantly, when the question is phrased so as to shift it from me asking myself - me asking the other me - rather than holding the responsibility for the question yourself. Do you understand?

like this: [vb] No.

Please? Even a quick example would be very helpful. I looked up (http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Assumptions) Assumptions and I only get a twinkling of an understanding. I did see that [vb] was being direct or even rude in some of his demands for answers, I just can't quite grasp how he could have worded the questions in a more (http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Anticipation_and_non-Anticipation) non-Anticipatory manner.

I seem to have brain fog today (like most days :shock: ). I feel I'm in a constant, or more often than not, state of anticipation and I'd really like to find the switch to change that gear. It's not so much the case in my living environment as it is here in my learning environment. Not sure I'll get any example right off, but the help/guidance would be very much appreciated.

:lol: I somehow ended up with more cogswell cogs than spacely's space sprockets and I'm working at trying to regain some balance. :)
 

Bluestar

Jedi Council Member
VB: Can you show Laura where the artifact is?
Laura: What artifact?
VB: The artifact that was discussed on the board, in the past.
Laura: At the appropriate time.
VB: So that means you could show it but you're not going to show it now?
Laura: There are several steps that must precede such.
VB: Can you tell us about those steps?
Laura: You have to ask a simple question. It has to be phrased simply and specifically.
VB: [Sharp and impatient.] Anybody ELSE want to give it a try with a question?
Here I believe is a good example of what I think you are asking, Balberon. VB asks "Can you tell us about the steps?" From what I interpret a simpler question would be "What is the first step?"

another example:
VB: On the board, you said that Laura could see 4th density if we looked in the mirror. What did you mean? Can you show Laura what you meant?
Laura: What about 4th density do you wish to see?
VB: Try not to merge with the mirror. What does Laura need to see about 4th density that is so important that we do it now? Show that to her.
Laura: That's an inappropriate request.
VB: On the board, you suggested that there was a reason why Laura needed to look now, and that it involved seeing 4th density.
Laura: There are many questions.
VB: Go on.
Laura: Why don't you ask them?
Here from what I am gathering he is asking a general question "what does Laura need to see?" The answer is an infinite amount of things. She needs to see a lot, right? So being more specific the question can go along the lines of the way he asked this part here.


VB: [Voice very sharp.] What's the purpose of doing the mirror work?
Laura: To bond with another reality.
VB: What reality?
Laura: Fourth density.
VB: And what in 4th density do you need to bond with?
Laura: Awareness. When you see, you become more aware. And the more aware you are, the more you are able to operate in that reality, to become more free of restriction and deception.
He was looking for something in particular and using Laura to meet that need. He did not formulate simple questions that were specific in nature. Maybe he did not know what they were. He gets better at it later in the session. I hope that I am on the right track here and this helps.
 

Steve M.

Jedi Master
Hi Bluestar,

Yes that did help quite a bit. I appreciate your taking the time out to help me with this. I also reread the links in my prior post. The brain fog seems less cloudy today as well.

I think it was limited sleep. I'm adjusting to a new sleeping schedule as my kids started school this week.

Salutes! :)
 

Juba

Dagobah Resident
Bluestar said:
Thank you Laura for again taking time to publish on the forum these transcripts.

For some reason while reading this, I was getting frustrated at VB and his line of questioning. It appears to me that he could not figure out what specific questions he wanted to ask. Instead I believe he wanted to just be told what was in 4D. Thought he was missing the point. osit!
Agree with Bluestar. More over, the way VB managed trough the session seems like interrogation; interupting Laura's explanations, making assumptions, pushing Laura to say what he wanted to hear. Such extreme STS energy of VB could not get anything interesting (from his point of view) from STO candidate, in this case Laura. I have strong feeling, while reading this session, like Laura was tortured....,.... Hope Laura will never, ever have to go trough close interaction with such people.
 

FrankM4326754

Jedi Master
I am doing my best to continue learning and rereading some material as well as cover other areas. This question could probably fit better in another thread found on this forum but have we found what Prime numbers are all about?

Do prime numbers have some sort of relevance in technology? i.e. cell phones? I read that the computer is based on the binary system which is what our bodies are based on. In our bodies we start off as a cell then multiply into two cells then again into four and yet again into eight and as you continue it simply keeps going. I wonder if prime numbers when added together can come up with all the possible number combinations and that is why they are so useful in technology? Not sure if this is any where close to having merit but just a thought.

Another curious thing that does relate to this post is the mention of literally moving the Earth so that we as a civilization would negate being eradicated by a large cosmic body. Wonder what the probability of this actually occurring in the future is and yet I know the C's would probably say wait and see. Rightfully so. Learning certainly is fun, I wonder what I was like in past lives or furthermore how to recollect such things. Does the breathing program help with this?

Lastly my apologies for being so sporadic with topics here. Just letting the thoughts flow.

Frank
 

bngenoh

The Living Force
Definitely an interesting session. When reading about the "core being", and that it is like a pencil cartoon. I wondered about the connection to the spinal cord because sometimes its as if that is where "I am" and from where I am acting from and that my awareness is a field like a magnetic field (torus like) emanating from the core/spinal cord or column.
 
I don't remember reading this transcript,but wow, what a tour DE force of stellar proportions. Seeing VB in action like this was like watching some ne'er do well antihero like the Joker trying to torment and force the secret plans out of Batman under hypnosis.Laura kept telling him over and over to just ASK,and he,being the psychopath that he seems to be, just couldn't fathom a question that wasn't self-centered.Couldn't step out of his ponergized trap of self-will.It seems like a part of Laura was selflessly amused through it all,and I hope I'm right and didn't have to release any of his energy.I don't think so. Certainly not while in 4D.You are brave Laura,but not only that.I know she went into it unselfishly,without hunger for gain and result,so THAT knowledge IS protection.And its also STO candidacy.She has learned to SEE. NO poor VB,he chooses mechanically,OSIT.I am starting to feel I remember some of the transcript ,but not VB's haranguing lunatic moves,which were also important to witness.I remember Laura watching all the lights and movements and the egg-lights and remember them feeling delightful.I know you really had to BE there ,BUT this is certainly the next best thing!So Laura knows what its like now,there in 4D and I thank the UNIVERSE she's able to share this AMAZING grace!Thanks over and over.
 
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