Session 6 December 2025

I seem to remember that in the book “Think And Grow Rich” from the thirties by Napoleon Hill, written from a western capitalistic point of view, that he suggested it imperative that men “save the seed” if they wanted to be successful (in a capitalistic society). FWIW
I asked Grok, because I was curious as I read his book years ago (and it didn't stick, unfortunately) and it is true:
Prompt: Did Napoleon Hill in his book Think and Grow Rich say that men should save their seed?

Yes, Napoleon Hill in Think and Grow Rich (1937) explicitly discusses the idea that men should practice sexual restraint and "save their seed" (i.e., avoid excessive ejaculation or frequent sexual activity) in order to conserve vital energy for achievement and success.

The most direct passage is in Chapter 11: The Mystery of Sex Transmutation (10th step toward riches). Hill writes:
“The men of greatest achievement are men with highly developed sex natures; men who have learned the art of sex transmutation. (…) The men who have accumulated great fortunes and achieved outstanding recognition in literature, art, industry, architecture, and the professions, were motivated by the influence of a woman… but many of them converted their sexual energy into achievement instead of wasting it in mere physical expression.”

He then lists ten stimuli that drive the mind to higher levels of vibration, with “Sex desire” ranked as #1 the most powerful.Later in the same chapter, Hill strongly implies (and in some cases directly states) that frequent ejaculation depletes a man’s vitality:

“Sex desire is the most powerful of human desires. When driven by this desire, men develop keenness of imagination, courage, will-power, persistence, and creative ability unknown to them at other times. (…) The mere possession of this energy is not sufficient to produce genius. The energy must be transmuted from desire for physical contact into some other form of desire and action.”

He goes on to say that most men waste this energy through over-indulgence:

“Fortunate is the husband whose wife understands the true relationship between the emotions of love and sex… Fortunate, also, is the man who has learned to control and transmute his sex energy instead of wasting it in momentary physical pleasure.”

In the original 1937 edition, Hill is even more explicit in a passage that was toned down or removed in some later editions:

“A man’s greatest motivating force is his desire to please a woman… If this energy is not transmuted, it may find an outlet through purely physical channels, with destructive results.”
Hill cites historical figures (whom he claims remained celibate or practiced extreme sexual restraint after a certain age) such as Napoleon Bonaparte (ironically), Thomas Edison, and others as examples of men who allegedly achieved greatness by conserving their sexual energy.
 
One More Thing About Freemasonry:

Since you are advising men to join Freemasonry, I hope you’ll be equally open to receiving advice?

Knowledge protects, so I would recommend two things.

First, read the book, “Egregores” by Mark Stavish.

After you have read it, read this Cassiopaean session:


I too was initiated, passed, raised and exalted. My status as a Freemason now is ‘unattached’, since I no longer attend or pay subs to my mother lodge. If you take the time to read what I’ve recommended to you above, you’ll see that it is no coincidence that the official term for a Freemason like me is, ‘unattached’.

Remember, as someone who went through his second degree, you were authorised and encouraged to study such of the liberal arts and sciences as fall within the compass of your attainment. So you are charged with that responsibility. I’d say the material I’ve recommended above would apply.
 
Since you are advising men to join Freemasonry, I hope you’ll be equally open to receiving advice?

Knowledge protects, so I would recommend two things.

First, read the book, “Egregores” by Mark Stavish.

After you have read it, read this Cassiopaean session:


I too was initiated, passed, raised and exalted. My status as a Freemason now is ‘unattached’, since I no longer attend or pay subs to my mother lodge. If you take the time to read what I’ve recommended to you above, you’ll see that it is no coincidence that the official term for a Freemason like me is, ‘unattached’.

Remember, as someone who went through his second degree, you were authorised and encouraged to study such of the liberal arts and sciences as fall within the compass of your attainment. So you are charged with that responsibility. I’d say the material I’ve recommended above would apply.

Thank you for the book recommendation — I’ll read it soon (hoepfully)

Out of genuine curiosity, may I ask what led you to step away from Freemasonry, IF IT IS OKAY? I mean was it something you encountered personally, a general feeling over time, or insights you gained from the book you mentioned?

I’m asking simply because I’ve been enjoying my journey so far, and I’m genuinely interested in understanding the different reasons why people choose to leave (safety reasons or bored?). For example, was it related to concerns about egregores and their potential influence?

Btw, I have some familiarity with Egregore concept and recall what the Cs have said about it. I think they said something like "you don't create the Egregore, it finds you and feeds off of you."

Thank you.
 
Another amazingly informative session. Thanks so much to all concerned who are working non-stop to get all this information out to those of us who need it. The moon landing information was interesting. Incredible that the information was witheld. That must have been almost agony for Neil Armstrong et al. I don't think I could have done it....:wow:
 
But I've never heard or read of any reports, hints, or anything that would imply the astronauts revealed anything about it.
Depends how a credible source might present his 'report', as to 'reveal' something openly but packaged in a way without being so open about it. This clip from the movie Transformers: Dark of the Moon you might find intriguing, cue Buzz Aldrin from the 2:30 mark

 
Thank you for the book recommendation — I’ll read it soon (hoepfully)

Out of genuine curiosity, may I ask what led you to step away from Freemasonry, IF IT IS OKAY? I mean was it something you encountered personally, a general feeling over time, or insights you gained from the book you mentioned?

I’m asking simply because I’ve been enjoying my journey so far, and I’m genuinely interested in understanding the different reasons why people choose to leave (safety reasons or bored?). For example, was it related to concerns about egregores and their potential influence?

Btw, I have some familiarity with Egregore concept and recall what the Cs have said about it. I think they said something like "you don't create the Egregore, it finds you and feeds off of you."

Thank you.

It was a confluence of different things. I was initiated at the age of 21 in the October. After installation of the next Worshipful Master in Dec, I straight away took the office of Junior Deacon due to my talent for ritual (I presented the Ancient Charge without any prompts from the preceptor at an initiation rehearsal before I even took the office), and talent for delivering speeches at festive boards.

After that, I went straight to Junior Warden, then Senior Warden. I was also chairman of the Masonic Hall management committee, which involved two different lodges.

So I found myself at the age of 23, faced with the prospect of going through the chair, having had little to no real life experience before that. But through my time as a Freemason, I had also been the full-time carer of my disabled mother. This in itself was an enormous responsibility - to this day, the greatest of my life - and it was very difficult.

While all this was going on, I had always been a musician, and I got offered a role in a band that had some ‘industry interest’ and was based a relatively long distance from where I lived.

And then added to this, and most importantly and formatively, I had found this forum and the group. I had experienced a different, and more objective and permanent, form of initiation and I knew that the knowledge I was looking for when I joined Freemasonry was not to be found there.

Of course, no one was forcing me to go through the chair, but I could feel that it was a natural crossroads in my life journey. If I had done it, the next year of my life would have been hectic, I would have been even more involved and committed, and it was becoming clear that I would probably have been expected to take provincial office within a few years. Other things were pulling me in different directions.

I networked here on the forum about it and got some impartial advice. The main thing that stuck with me was when someone asked the question (about Freemasonry), “What’s objective about it?”

Different masons get different things out of it, and so the answer to that could be different for each. But all I need to say is that it helped me make up my mind.

At the next practice, I announced that I wouldn’t be taking the chair the next year, and instead I would be leaving Freemasonry and using the spare time I had to attempt a career in music.
 
It was a confluence of different things. I was initiated at the age of 21 in the October. After installation of the next Worshipful Master in Dec, I straight away took the office of Junior Deacon due to my talent for ritual (I presented the Ancient Charge without any prompts from the preceptor at an initiation rehearsal before I even took the office), and talent for delivering speeches at festive boards.

After that, I went straight to Junior Warden, then Senior Warden. I was also chairman of the Masonic Hall management committee, which involved two different lodges.

So I found myself at the age of 23, faced with the prospect of going through the chair, having had little to no real life experience before that. But through my time as a Freemason, I had also been the full-time carer of my disabled mother. This in itself was an enormous responsibility - to this day, the greatest of my life - and it was very difficult.

While all this was going on, I had always been a musician, and I got offered a role in a band that had some ‘industry interest’ and was based a relatively long distance from where I lived.

And then added to this, and most importantly and formatively, I had found this forum and the group. I had experienced a different, and more objective and permanent, form of initiation and I knew that the knowledge I was looking for when I joined Freemasonry was not to be found there.

Of course, no one was forcing me to go through the chair, but I could feel that it was a natural crossroads in my life journey. If I had done it, the next year of my life would have been hectic, I would have been even more involved and committed, and it was becoming clear that I would probably have been expected to take provincial office within a few years. Other things were pulling me in different directions.

I networked here on the forum about it and got some impartial advice. The main thing that stuck with me was when someone asked the question (about Freemasonry), “What’s objective about it?”

Different masons get different things out of it, and so the answer to that could be different for each. But all I need to say is that it helped me make up my mind.

At the next practice, I announced that I wouldn’t be taking the chair the next year, and instead I would be leaving Freemasonry and using the spare time I had to attempt a career in music.
I understand you, bro.

When you have other responsibilities, Freemasonry is a very, very tough responsibility (considering the fact that we always meet in Weekdays, around 4-5 PM). Of course, no one is forcing you, but there are expectations.

I am currently the IG and also the Assistant Secretary. I don’t do much work at the moment, but at our next Installation meeting I will be the JD and will start doing all the floor work. And since our lodge is part of the US (University Scheme), we usually have double initiations, so I truly understand your pain.

As they say in England (since you are also from the UK), Freemasonry is not a job; it should be a hobby that gives you fun and joy. I know that sometimes it is demanding and the ritual can be confusing (thank God, at least we do Emulation 😅 ).

I believe you also made the right decision by taking the real responsibility of your mother. Everyone who has “high moral standards” would—and should—do the same.

Freemasonry has actually helped me understand how the Operatives used to think, and also partially why Fulcanelli had to talk about the Mysteries of the Cathedrals before his second book, The Dwellings of the Philosophers. Obviously, I don’t know what fraction of the Operative knowledge is retained in Speculative Freemasonry, or how much of it will be given to me, but we’ll see. I am aiming for RSM.

By the way, I am living in London, and if that suits you, I would definitely like to have drinks with you.

Thanks for your message again, mate.
 
Q: (L) All right.

(meadow_wind) Has Yu MengLong been murdered?

A: Yes

Q: (meadow_wind) What were the motives for his murder?

A: Ritual sacrifice.

Q: (meadow_wind) Is there a connection between Charlie Kirk's murder and Yu MengLong's?

A: Very indirect, but yes.

Q: (L) And when you say 'very indirect, but yes', What exactly was the connection?

A: Time was right for sacrifices.

Q: (L) So you mean that there is some kind of... a sacrifice calendar?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, she points out here, odd coincidence:


And then there were a bunch of chaotic energy, rare natural events that struck China around that period. September 10th, September 13, 15 and 21. Okay, what's up with that?

A: The sacrificial energy was active at the time. Think of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of activities.

Q: (L) So what is that? I never saw that. I didn't want to see it.

(Joe) It's a movie about the classic kind of secret society, masks, masonic kind of ritual sacrifice. Was Yu MengLong in some way involved in that or was he abducted by those people before that sacrifice?

A: He was the chosen sacrifice.

Q: (Niall) Is this like a Chinese elite version of their Western counterparts?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Chinese Freemasonry.

(Chu) Are the responsible people part of the government or just private individuals?

A: Above the government.

Q: (Scottie) We can probably answer all those questions because it's secret societies just like in the West.

(Niall) It's not known in China, unless you've heard that. I've never heard of Freemasonry.

(L) Well, I mean I think probably societies all over the world...

(Niall) Everyone goes, "The CCP is like the top dog in China!"

(L) Well, everybody says the president of the US is the top dog.

(Niall) But it's also commonly known that there's a deep state.

(L) I would imagine there's something beyond that in China. It is just that we don't as a general rule know that much about it because China is...

(Joe) There's probably similar groups in all major countries.

Q: (L) Yeah and they probably connect with each other and they're probably linked to hyperdimensional critters or demons or something.

A: Yes

While looking for something else, I ran into this section of dead sheep and the abuse of horses by satanic groups in the same area and thought of the above ritual sacrifice of Yu MengLong. I wondered, if someone was sacrificed, if there was a way to pinpoint the area based on other weird and unfortunate occurrences.

May 18, 2024
Q: (L) Niall and Joe, what are your questions about Albias animals? What are Albias animals?

(Joe) So, in January this year there were 600 sheep that were spooked or corralled into the back of a poly tunnel. And they all died from fear. And they claimed at the time that it must be a dog. They didn't really see a dog, but they said there were wild dogs around.

(L) 600 sheep died from fear because the dog scared them?!

(Joe) Yeah. And then, more recently, there was an event where 600 chickens were allegedly killed by a pack of stray dogs. And they say it goes back over two years, but these wild dogs have never been caught.

(Chu) And it can be sheep, goats, chickens...

(Joe) It just seems that the numbers being killed seems unlikely for a dog or pack of dogs. And we're wondering if it's something other than what people assume it is?

(L) What is it?

A:
Temporary transfer of perimeters to 4D where 2D creatures can be easily overwhelmed.

Q:
(L) Okay. And what causes transfer of perimeters?

A:
4D bleedthrough due to local activity.

Q:
(L) What kind of local activity? Are we talking about people performing rituals and stuff?

A:
Close

Q:
(Joe) Wasn't there something about witches or something?

(L) Creepy!

(Chu) I dunno, but some of the animals were wounded, too.

(Niall) Is this related to the spate of horses that were being abused by some satanic groups?

A:
Yes

Q:
(Joe) In that area, yeah.

(Niall) Well, that was all over France during the COVID year, in 2020/2021.
 
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Session Date: December 6th 2025


(daddycat) Morley Robbins wrote a book "Cure Your Fatigue" describing more than 100 years of dietary changes that have created copper deficiency in people. Do most people have a copper deficiency?

A: Yes

Q: (daddycat) Is Morley Robbins' Root Cause Protocol correct in that we should stop taking vitamin D3, zinc, and ascorbic acid supplements because they adversely affect copper metabolism?

A: No. Take copper.

Q: (Joe) What's a good dose for the average person?

A: 2mg

Q: (Joe) Per day?

A: Yes
Great session.
I had hypothesis that copper is "noble" metal for our health. I talked little about it in this post .
I think if we used copper utensils, kitchenware, culinary tools we could naturally got 1-2 mg per day.

Maybe CS can confirm this in some next sessions.

Make copper great again! 😄

(Mark7) The purse subject in the last session, was it a sort of 'receiver' of 4D energy?

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A: No

Q: (Mark7) Are there still any around?

A: Possibly.

Q: (Mark7) Does any of this technology involve the manipulation of awareness?

A: Can.

Q: (Nienna) What were the pine cone-like things they had in their hand?

A: Energy directors.

Q: (Nienna) What were the things they wore on their wrists that looked like watches/bracelets?

A: Communication devices.
Interesting gadgets. The more we go to future ,the more past seems recognizable eh?

Modern technology seems to be old Atlantis tech revival hmm? All this liquid crystals and LEDs on our screens and lights..

(meadow_wind) Has Yu MengLong been murdered?

A: Yes

Q: (meadow_wind) What were the motives for his murder?

A: Ritual sacrifice.

Q: (meadow_wind) Is there a connection between Charlie Kirk's murder and Yu MengLong's?

A: Very indirect, but yes.

Q: (L) And when you say 'very indirect, but yes', What exactly was the connection?

A: Time was right for sacrifices.

Q: (L) So you mean that there is some kind of... a sacrifice calendar?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, she points out here, odd coincidence:



And then there were a bunch of chaotic energy, rare natural events that struck China around that period. September 10th, September 13, 15 and 21. Okay, what's up with that?

A: The sacrificial energy was active at the time. Think of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of activities.

Q: (L) So what is that? I never saw that. I didn't want to see it.

(Joe) It's a movie about the classic kind of secret society, masks, masonic kind of ritual sacrifice. Was Yu MengLong in some way involved in that or was he abducted by those people before that sacrifice?

A: He was the chosen sacrifice.

Q: (Niall) Is this like a Chinese elite version of their Western counterparts?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Chinese Freemasonry.

(Chu) Are the responsible people part of the government or just private individuals?

A: Above the government.

..

(Joe) There's probably similar groups in all major countries.

Q: (L) Yeah and they probably connect with each other and they're probably linked to hyperdimensional critters or demons or something.

A: Yes

When environment and group of "people" are "set" to extreme STS, 4D STS act automatically. If a single soul in that group was STO oriented this ritual murder would hardly "pass" . Extreme STS individuals create extreme STS environment which brings more extreme STS(4D) to the picture.
Same could go for STO, unfortunately in this day and age not enough people are interested in that way,and much,much less are "set" to STO .
(L) Now I'm not going to go through and ask specific detailed questions about everything here, but I've got this document, which I published part of yesterday on my Substack, and I'll get to the more detailed part probably in the next few days. But in general, would you say that this is a correct analysis or comparison between the ideas of Ibn al-'Arabi and the Cassiopaeans and the perennial tradition and esoteric Christianity, et cetera?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is there anything you would like to correct?

A: Yes. Masculinity should not be compared to the STS part of the dichotomy at higher levels. STS is only a reflection for balance at 6th level, the level of the names.

Q: (L) So are you saying that actual STS, as say a choice or an option, belongs to 3rd, 4th, and possibly even 5th?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Anything else?

A: Your discourse on the topic was inspired. Be sure to make it clear the element of love is the driver. Sex without love and deep psychic connection drains energy to 4 level STS.

Q: (L) So that's 4th density?

A: Yes

Q: (L) All right. And what about the instructions for the various procedures?

A: This might be less important than the simple instructions.

Q: (L) And the simple instructions are basically... You know guys, I have a Virgo moon and a Cancer ascendant. I don't even like talking about this stuff. I just want to let you know that. But here I'm going to go and do it anyway for you guys. So, the basic instructions are just mainly retention for the man?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Over prolonged periods of time, if possible, or as prolonged as possible?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But women are encouraged to not retain, is that correct?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Why is that?

A: Woman gives creative energy to man.

Q: (L) And then the man takes that energy and goes out and creates the environment in which the woman lives. Is that it?

A: Yes basically.

Q: (L) So it doesn't really matter if you follow specific techniques. Those are there for, basically, to give people something to concentrate on?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is it important to close the microcosmic orbit at the crucial moment?

A: Sometimes. Other times it simply happens naturally at the moment of culmination when the two become one.

Q: (L) Well, the book recommends a rather strenuous schedule. Is this schedule necessary?

A: In certain cases, yes.

Q: (L) So...

(Joe) In what cases?

(Niall) In whose cases?

A: Illness or when serious energy exchange is required. If the couple are open and sincere they can approach the practices in a spirit of playful exploration and experimentation. Find out what works individually as a couple.

Q: (L) So in other words, if you're open to experimenting and observing the results, exploring and having fun, basically... you really can't break it, is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But if you can achieve some of the goals set out in the instructions, in certain respects as far as retention and so forth, those can be very beneficial?

A: Absolutely!!!

Q: (L) So... The part on healing says that "direct exchange and balancing of yin and yang 'jing', which is sexual essence [...] a man's deepest constitutional energies are yang in nature. A woman's are yin. In ordinary sex, these essences are usually lost or spent. In loving dual cultivation, they are consciously exchanged and harmonized. Deficiencies in one partner are literally replenished by the surplus of the other.” So, is that a fair and accurate statement?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is sex as we experience it...? I mean, here's what I was thinking: The whole thing started because I was thinking about everything that exists in the universe being kind of like a word, or a sentence of the divine, being representative, a metaphor, a symbol, you know, all of those kinds of things. And if that was the case, the fact that we were male and female and sex is there and sex happens, that certainly must represent some cosmic action.

I mean, as above, so below. And clearly that means that we probably ought to examine the case, and discover what we can about it that is of a positive nature, or at least understand it. So that was my thinking behind it. And so, that's kind of why I was curious about it and why I was looking into it. And that being the case, is it that love is kind of like the glue that holds...? I mean, it talks about love from the divine, the love of the divine, for the divine. "I was a treasure and I loved to be known", as al-'Arabi said. And the C's, at one point, when talking about chakras, said that something was a sexual center, and it was connected to seventh density in the aspect of "thou I love", or something like that. I don't remember exactly what the terminology was, but it's like love is kind of like... Is it like the glue, or the motivation?

A: Both in a sense, but more the motivation.

Q: (L) So love is what motivates creation, in a sense.

A: Yes

Q: (L) Boy, that was fast! All right. Does anybody have any questions about that, that they want to ask?

(Ellipse) I would like to ask if for a man, there is no risk of building too much energy when there is retention. If there's a risk of having, or building up too much energy.

(L) In other words, you're worried that you'll wait too long and you'll explode. [laughter]

(Joe) I think he's talking about retention, that if there is energy inflow, that there will be too much energy. I suppose that if it's not used, then maybe.

A: When the moment for release comes, it should be obvious. The ancients made observations and established rule of thumb guidelines that can be followed.

Q: (L) So, I'll put it all together and make it available. But there are, like I said, there are a couple of books you can buy that have this material. They don't put so much focus on the love part, which the Cs apparently consider to be very important. They're mostly into practical aspects, or whatever. But there are a couple of books that I think are reliable. So, I'll make that available very shortly. But in the meantime, I guess from what the C's have said, people can, if they know the principle, you know, retention for the man, but not for the woman... or not normally for the woman. Under some circumstances, apparently it might be advisable, but not usually. And prolonged encounters, and prolific encounters. Because that makes it even harder. I mean, because if you have a period of time, obviously if you don't do anything for that period of time, you're not really challenging yourself. Because I think that... I don't know if you guys realize how hard it is to retain for any great period of time, and I'm really thankful that the burden is put upon the men. [laughter]

(T.C.) Can I ask a question?

(L) Yes.

(T.C.) It's semi-related, but it's in the same ballpark. About single men: It's just a general question, but what is going to be more beneficial for their long-term health, retention or release/relief?

(L) I didn't read about that in the book, yet. Of course, I haven't read all of the books yet.

(T.C.) So they may cover that in your books as well.

(L) Yeah, that may be covered, but I haven't come across anything about it. I guess we can just ask...

A: Depends on the man.

Q: (L) So it would almost have to be an individual answer. Yeah, because I don't know how you'd be balancing your yin energy if you don't have a female partner. And autonomous activity might... Maybe, here's what I think: I think if a man is single, he should not worry so much about retention, because he's not getting any yin balancing anyway, and he should just try to restrict himself to as often as needed. Is that close enough?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So any other questions? Come now, come on. Everything you wanted to know, it's right here. Just... No?

(Approaching Infinity) I’ve got a question.

(L) Yes?

(Approaching Infinity) So in some of the texts that I've read on like Taoist Alchemy, but also in things like Gurdjieff, there's an emphasis placed on the visualization that goes along with something like retention. So visualizing energy, like moving from the groin area up into the mind. Are those types of visualizations beneficial or necessary?

A: Beneficial, but not always necessary.
Not just esoteric Christians. Some orthodox monks are aware and know benefits of practice of retention ( perhaps plus some Catholics monks too, protestant perhaps less so )

The truth is all man power comes from retention. It is not that you will only see and "read" much more from your environment and people and "energies" around you,but you will became "Christed" in true meaning of the word. This is what ancient "holy fathers" meant to have "Holy Spirit" in you. Some Buddhist/Tao/Zen monks know of it too,although they call it "dharma"(truth) or similar.

Those who "set" themselves in this process will see how much and in what way environment and people have influence on you ,and your decision. As a rule of thumb those "of blood " will not go against your decision (most of the time), but with those "of mud" is different story.

Same with environments,not all will go along with your decision,not all "times" will be in favor of your commitment .

Be aware that those who persevere long enough, by not giving STS forces its food (in any and every way) could be contacted by 4D STS directly,it will be your decision which side will you set yourself into ("in which stone"),4D STS or 4D STO .
It is the ultimate Christ/Antichrist decision which will last "only" forever.
 
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