Session 6 December 2025

[LVX in Tenebris]

@LVX in Tenebris: Thank you for your attitude and contribution to the forum.

I'd like to share with you what I've learned about Freemasonry's structure, doctrines, and internal variations. Kindly correct me any bias you see. (There is a large one more explanatory in the thread of @MJF about Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucian, which is based on a few vis-à-vis exchanges with members and “knighted ones” of the Order.)

The initial three degrees (referred to as Blue or symbolic) serve as a superficial initiation, conveying generic or biased information without revealing core Masonic teachings. True doctrinal knowledge is accessible only to a small minority —less than 10 percent of members— who advance to higher branches: the York Rite (described as “left,” with Royal Arch elements, emphasizing secrecy, Gnostic influences, intellectualism, and a pro-British orientation) or the Scottish Rite (described as “right,” with 30 degrees, more published materials, often used for networking, and aligned with pro-French democratic ideals).

Approximately 90 percent of Freemasons remain unaware of the organization's deeper content, functioning primarily as a support base for the elite few. But each Orient, each Grand Lodge, and each Lodge tends to be a world apart, and people can acquire different amounts of knowledge; so, is it correct to speak of “Freemasonries” in the plural? This emphasizes the diversity within Freemasonry, influenced by factors such as location, leadership, and lodge specifics, leading to variations including deistic, secular, Gnostic, Hermetic, speculative, operative, Christian-oriented, anti-ecclesiastical, or Islam-influenced forms.


If you can read Spanish, a few years ago appeared: Una lectura masónica a las enseñanzas de Fulcanelli. And in 2016, appeared the digital edition of “Las Cuatro Alas del Mercurio” from Apiano León de Valiente and Sandra Maitri.


Yes, we agree. In fact, Willy Schrödter's “Geheimkunste de Rosenkreuzer” (1954) was published as “A Rosacrucian Notebook” (1992) in English and was first translated in Brazil as “Escritos Rosacruzes” by the Eleusi publishing house in 1995. Meanwhile, the Spanish edition only appeared in 2022 as “Un Cuaderno Rosacruz” with the addition of the long-lost French work Le Rapport Fulcanelli: ou la fin d’un mythe.

BTW, Jacques Vallée wrote in Confrontations (1990) the deadly activities of the “Chupas,” in Colares (Pará, Bahía de Marajó) which once I translated from the original in English to Spanish (and now again to English, sorry if it isn't exact, but my digital copy of the book isn't OCRed):


And the Cs reinforced it:

Hello again @panoptix,

1) About Freemasonry’s structure and knowledge distribution​

To be honest, I wouldn’t say that the first three degrees in Freemasonry (basically Craft Masonry) are superficial or that they do not convey core Masonic doctrine. That said, in Freemasonry we also know that they are relatively “light,” so to speak, in terms of esotericism.

Indeed, the fact that Craft Masonry is relatively basic and straightforward is well known. Some Masons even find the higher degrees a bit confusing or more esoteric. For example, as you can see in this article (which I read a few days ago), the author acknowledges that Masonic appendant bodies like the Holy Royal Arch can be far more confusing than the Craft degrees:

An Esoteric Interpretation of the Holy Royal Arch – The Square Magazine

“Whilst the meaning of Craft Masonry is understood or explained clearly to most brethren as the messages the degrees teach are self-evident, the meaning of the Royal Arch ceremony is not usually discussed in any detail either in or outside of lodge.”

The claim that “true doctrinal knowledge is accessible only to a small minority (<10%)” is somewhat misleading. Yes, it is already known that as you progress further or deeper, you are said to understand the core meaning of Freemasonry better. So while non-Masons often claim that something is hidden even from Masons themselves, this is actually one of the first things a Mason learns when he is initiated.

Therefore, instead of saying that true doctrinal knowledge is limited to 10%, I would say that the deeper meaning of Freemasonry is limited to around 10%—and the remaining ~90% are aware of this as well. I know, for example, that as a Mason who has just completed the Craft, my knowledge of Freemasonry is not the same as that of a Mason who is 30th degree in the AASR or a member of Royal and Select Masters.

Regarding the rites, I wouldn’t say that the AASR and the York Rite are right- or left-oriented. Both are rites that further explore what you have already started in the Craft. You can be a member of both, or neither, and still join other orders (such as the Shriners, Secret Monitor, or SRIA). So describing one as more Gnostic and the other as more French or British is, in my opinion, misleading and subjective.

All I would say is that the AASR (Scottish Rite) is more structured and ordered than the York Rite, which consists of the Craft and three separate independent bodies.

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2) About diversity within Freemasonry​

Yes, it is true that each Orient or Grand Lodge is slightly different from the others. However, at the core, they are ultimately doing the same thing. So although the meaning does not change from one Grand Lodge to another, the way the message is conveyed and how the ritual is worked differs—not only from Grand Lodge to Grand Lodge, but even from Lodge to Lodge, for obvious reasons.

There are also different ritual workings that each Grand Lodge accepts. So even without another Grand Lodge involved, you can still end up with two accepted rituals being worked by two different lodges under the same Grand Lodge.

It is said that around 70% of UGLE lodges use Emulation working
(Emulation Ritual 13th Edition (Pocket) - Regalia Store UK),
but there are also others such as Taylor's, Logic, Universal, Duncan's and so on—and all are valid and accepted by the same Grand Lodge.

So in a sense, you can speak of Freemasonries (plural), but they are still essentially doing the same thing, with slightly different curricula and methods of presentation.

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3) About Fulcanelli and related literature​

I will have to read those books you mentioned before I can comment properly. So, again I don't know:

• Una lectura masónica a las enseñanzas de Fulcanelli
• Las Cuatro Alas del Mercurio (Apiano León de Valiente & Sandra Maitri)

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Fulcanelli had some connection to Freemasonry. After all, the cathedrals he mentions in The Mysteries of the Cathedrals are known to have been built by operative masons, who are the predecessors of today’s speculative Masons. So, if he found Alchemical secrets there, they were very likely to be of Masonic origin.

Please see the PDF I attached (The Five Noble Orders of Architecture), which was given to me by UGLE. It is a short article explaining how the magnificent edifices of Europe were built by operative masons of the past, including those cathedrals and others. You may only need to read the last paragraph to see what I mean.

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4) About Latin America as an esoteric hotspot​

I mean, Latin and South America certainly have a rich culture and history, with a lot to learn from (I like the work of Don Juan as suggested by Laura). Unfortunately, though, many people there seem to be involved in voodoo-like practices or New Age mumbo jumbo.

Regarding the UFO subject and what Jacques Valle says about South America, I think we can read more about that from the Cassiopaean Substack. Like you mentioned, UFOs (together with the window fallers) are very active South America.

That said, I definitely want to visit South America one day.

 

[thorbiorn]

Xi Jinping, is a particularly powerful head of the CCP

A Falun-Gong related media outlet, like Epoch Times, had a few comments, including that Xi Jinping shares birthday with the murdered actor, Yu Menglong.

‘They Killed Me’: Psychics, Prophecies, and the Search for the Truth Behind Yu Menglong’s Death
By Vision Times News]

Published: October 7, 2025
[...]
Taiwanese spiritual master: ‘Yu Menglong’s spirit carries deep resentment
In late September, Taiwanese metaphysician Shen Rong said she had contacted Yu’s spirit through the Akashic Records — a metaphysical archive of every soul’s thoughts and actions.

According to Shen, a voice replied: “I did not take my own life.” She then described a surge of emotional energy, heavy with betrayal and torment. Shen said Yu’s spirit seemed trapped in fear — “the fear of being silenced” — which eerily echoed reports of bruises seen on his face before his death.

In one of his last livestreams, Yu had even said, “If one day I suddenly disappear — remember, it won’t be an accident.” Shen suggested appealing to the divine for justice: “If there is a grievance that cannot be redressed in the human world, one may appeal to the City God (Chenghuang Ye). If Yu’s relatives or fans collectively report the case to the City God, He will be willing to hear it,” she said.

She even warned that those responsible for an unjust death would face “divine retribution,” adding, “No one escapes the law of Heaven.”

[...]
‘They killed me’
Another popular YouTube channel, File 204, claimed to have captured Yu’s voice through an EVP “spirit box” experiment. The host asked questions while scanning radio frequencies — and a distorted male voice responded.

When asked for his birthplace and birth date, the voice said “Urumqi” and “June 15.” Asked about his most iconic role, it replied, “Bai Zhen” — Yu’s character in “Eternal Love (Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms).”

Then came the chilling part. When asked about the cause of death, the voice said: “They killed me.” It also named “Xin Qi” as the mastermind and accused actress Song Yiren and another person named “Fan” of involvement. It even alleged that Yu was “beaten until he vomited.”

Skeptics dismissed the recording as pareidolia — random static mistaken for speech — but believers saw it as a breakthrough. “Science and spirituality may intersect in ways we don’t yet understand,” the host said.

A symbolic mystery: Xi Jinping’s birthday and 9/11
As netizens continued their own investigations, they unearthed odd details that changed the narrative. Yu’s personal studio was reportedly registered under categories including “arms trading.” Others found that several “Super Boy” contestants shared similar company listings — hinting at a deeper network linking entertainment, money, and politics.

Some connected these findings to a socialite named Yang Lanlan, rumored to possess vast unexplained wealth tied to “red family” business circles — though no hard evidence has emerged.

Then came an eerie coincidence: Yu Menglong shared a birthday with CCP leader Xi Jinping — and died on Sept. 11, a date synonymous with global tragedy. To many, this felt symbolic — a cosmic riddle that transcends coincidence. Whether conspiracy, fate, or something in between, Yu’s death continues to haunt many in both China and abroad.

Hackers Reveal $20 Billion CCP Money-Laundering Contracts Linked to Yu Menglong Case
By Vision Times News

Published: October 2, 2025
[...]
Insider clues point to arms and laundering networks
According to a report by Sound of Hope, netizens revealed that Yu Menglong had obtained an important clue before his death: certain high-level entertainment companies were involved in international arms trading and money-laundering operations. It was said that the data, lists, and fund flows Yu mentioned during his livestreams might have directly threatened the stability of a black-money empire controlled by a certain red family. This also explains why his death triggered such intense censorship and panic by the authorities.

Yu’s case is not unique. In recent years, several other Chinese entertainers have also died under mysterious circumstances. The parallels suggest that within this shadowy “black-money empire,” anyone who dares to expose hidden dealings may be silenced permanently.

It is reported that before his death, Yu Menglong knew some clues related to arms deals and money-laundering, which were part of a transnational, cross-platform, and highly covert red financial network.

Yu Menglong’s Studios Linked to Arms-Trade Trademarks
According to Xiaoxiang Morning News, a search on the corporate database “Tianyancha” found that Yu Menglong once owned two studios: Dongyang Xianmeng Film and Television Culture Studio and Shanghai Qimeng Film and Television Culture Studio. Both are now deregistered.

Dongyang Xianmeng was established in September 2016 and deregistered in July 2025, with a registered capital of only 500 yuan. Shanghai Qimeng was established in August 2017 and deregistered in November 2024, with a registered capital of 5 million yuan.

Further scrutiny revealed even stranger details. Records from “Qichacha” show that on Sept. 15, 2017, Shanghai Qimeng — acting through Beijing Jiajia Intellectual Property Agency — applied to register a trademark under Yu Menglong’s name. The application number was 26425601, and it was filed under Category 13: Firearms and Fireworks.

The trademark’s scope included a wide range of items: motorized weapons, firearms, and portable arms (subcategory 1301); explosives such as gunpowder (subcategory 1302); pyrotechnic products including fireworks and firecrackers (subcategory 1303); and defensive sprays for personal protection (subcategory 1304).

Weapon categories and alleged political ties
Public records note that Category 1301 trademarks in China cover weaponry ranging from ballistic missiles to handguns, with “motorized weapons” defined as self-propelled or mechanically driven arms. Category 1302 includes explosives from bombs and landmines to gunpowder.

Observers noted that for a film star to register trademarks under such categories was highly unusual. Rumors have circulated that Cai Qi’s alleged illegitimate son manipulated certain entertainers’ names to set up shell companies for laundering operations. Other reports suggest that members of Xi Jinping’s family may have siphoned off vast sums from military procurement funds.

Netizens also uncovered that Yu Menglong was involved in several joint ventures with other entertainers, spanning industries such as medical devices, entertainment, agriculture, and cultural products. Among those linked to him was actor Fan Shiqi — listed as one of 17 people present at a gathering on the day of Yu’s death, and rumored to have taken part in the assault that led to his killing.

Yu Menglong knew too many secrets that he should not have known, and he was aware that his life was in danger. Before his death, he told his mother in a text message that he had been drawn into a money-laundering case involving senior CCP officials. He also whispered “help me” during a livestream and made the “540” distress hand signal, but unfortunately no one understood it at the time.
[...]
Since Yu Menglong’s death, Beijing has cracked down harder than ever to suppress discussion and conceal the truth, fueling suspicions that senior CCP elites may be implicated. The information war surrounding his case has now gone global. Analysts say the case is no longer just a battle of narratives, but a confrontation between truth and lies — one that will ultimately bring the facts to light.

Falun-Gong is not in favour of the CCP and misses few opportunities, but being above the Government as the Cs said, does not mean the group in question had no relations or links to the CCP.

 

[iamthatis]

Regarding orgasms...
What if that happens while you are sleeping? Where does the energy go then? Or is that a special case?

Not sure where the energy goes. The session suggests that total retention at all times isn't necessary. So if it happens 'naturally' while asleep, it's probably not a big deal. My two cents.

Hello everyone, following this session, I would like to know if anyone living in France has any advice on dietary supplements for detoxifying the body of heavy metals and preventing iodine, copper and vitamin C deficiencies, based on the C's recommendations. What is the C's recommended dosage for an individual? I am referring to products that can be purchased in France. Thank you all very much for your support. ​

The two main chelators I know of are DMSA, which crosses the blood-brain barrier, and EDTA, which does not. I would imagine both are available in France? If not they can be purchased online internationally. A good first step for anyone would be to get a heavy metals test done, if possible.

The main recommendation from my naturopath for heavy metal detox - make sure to have regular bowel movements (once per day) while taking chelators, because heavy metals are excreted through the urine and also through the bowels. If the metals are delivered to the excretory system, and there is no pooping, the metals can get reabsorbed. So having a mild laxative on hand would help if that's an issue. She also recommended to take saunas while on the protocol to help with detox through the skin. Having liposomal Glutathione, ALA, and liposomal Vit C on hand is a good idea to help out in case of a Herx reaction. Metals, including good ones, will deplete while on chelators, but can be reintroduced with well-timed supplementation.

There's a thread on heavy metal detoxing here.

 

[Ricardo]

Hello everyone, following this session, I would like to know if anyone living in France has any advice on dietary supplements for detoxifying the body of heavy metals and preventing iodine, copper and vitamin C deficiencies, based on the C's recommendations. What is the C's recommended dosage for an individual? I am referring to products that can be purchased in France. Thank you all very much for your support. ​

With regards to iodine your best bet is to follow roughly David Brownstein guidelines , taking in consideration that at least 12,5mg daily is needed ( Session 21 November 2015 ), with regards to upper daily limit in lugol yet to find it , increased my daily dosage slowly until i felt ok with results and eventually adjusted it down a bit ,Vitamin C if its in liposomal form , cheaper if homemade , no need for taking large dosages ( by large i mean say 10gs daily ) , though might want to take them separately by a few hours, either case, iodine or vitamin C , short term there should be no need to worry with overdosing since human body will expel any unneeded excess, much like magnesium for example. ( hope this helps / not a doctor fwiw ).

 

[Sindy-S.R]

Inuspheresi and prolonged fasting are completely different methods of cleansing the human body, because the mechanisms involved are diverse.
It would be interesting to know which of the two is more efficient.
Or, if so, are they both methods that further enhance healing?
In terms of cost, prolonged fasting under medical supervision can be more economical.
However, the willpower required to do it is very demanding.
Here's what you can ask the AI:

Can you describe the body's detoxification mechanisms obtained through prolonged fasting and the inuspheresi method?

Quick Answer: Prolonged fasting activates the body’s natural detoxification by shifting metabolism to fat burning, triggering autophagy, and enhancing cellular repair. In contrast, INUSpheresis® is a medical blood purification technique that mechanically removes toxins, immune complexes, and harmful proteins directly from the bloodstream.

Detoxification Through Prolonged Fasting​

Fasting is not just about abstaining from food—it initiates a cascade of biological processes that support detoxification and cellular renewal:

• Metabolic Switch to Ketosis After glycogen stores are depleted, the body shifts to fat metabolism. Fatty acids undergo β-oxidation, producing ketones that fuel cells and reduce reliance on glucose.
• Autophagy Activation Prolonged fasting stimulates autophagy, a cellular recycling process where damaged proteins, organelles, and toxins are broken down and eliminated. This reduces oxidative stress and supports longevity.
• Gut Cleansing Mechanisms Fasting activates the Migrating Motor Complex (MMC) in the intestines, a wave-like contraction that clears residual food particles, bacteria, and toxins from the digestive tract.
• Reduction of Inflammation Fasting lowers pro-inflammatory cytokines and helps rebalance immune activity, indirectly reducing toxin-related stress.
• Enhanced Liver Detox Pathways The liver ramps up detoxification enzymes during fasting, improving the breakdown and clearance of xenobiotics (foreign toxins).

Detoxification Through INUSpheresis®​

INUSpheresis® is a clinical extracorporeal blood purification procedure designed to mechanically filter harmful substances:

• Selective Apheresis Blood plasma is separated from blood cells, then passed through specialized filters that remove environmental toxins, immune complexes, paraproteins, cholesterol, and pathogenic proteins, while preserving essential nutrients.
• Immune System Relief By removing circulating immune complexes and toxic proteins, INUSpheresis® reduces immune overload and helps restore balance in autoimmune and chronic inflammatory conditions.
• Applications Used for autoimmune diseases, chronic fatigue syndromes, Lyme disease, Long Covid, neurodegenerative disorders, and toxin-related illnesses.
• Procedure Characteristics
  • Outpatient, ~2 hours per session
  • Gentle and well-tolerated
  • Minimal side effects
  • Provides immediate reduction in toxin burden

Key Differences​

Aspect	Prolonged Fasting	INUSpheresis®
Mechanism	Biological, metabolic switch + autophagy	Mechanical, extracorporeal blood filtration
Target	Cellular repair, gut cleansing, liver detox	Direct removal of toxins, immune complexes, proteins
Control	Self-regulated, depends on body’s adaptation	Clinically controlled, precise and immediate
Applications	General health, longevity, metabolic reset	Chronic disease management, toxin overload
Risks	Nutrient deficiency if prolonged unsafely	Requires medical supervision, invasive

Risks & Considerations​

• Fasting: Must be done carefully; prolonged fasting without supervision can cause nutrient deficiencies, electrolyte imbalance, or worsen medical conditions.
• INUSpheresis®: Safe but invasive; requires specialized clinics and is typically reserved for patients with chronic or toxin-related illnesses.

In summary: Fasting leverages the body’s natural detox pathways (autophagy, gut cleansing, liver metabolism), while INUSpheresis® provides a direct medical intervention to filter toxins from the blood. They complement each other—fasting enhances internal resilience, while INUSpheresis® offers targeted relief when the body’s own mechanisms are insufficient.

A very interesting story to share about intermittent fasting.

With one foot in the grave, Robert changed and lost 200 lbs — Diet Doctor

I wanted to share Robert’s success story this week to illustrate the power of diet in our modern world. We are trained to believe that any powerful medicine must cost several thousands of dollars, but the best of medicines may, in fact, be free as we see all the time in the Intensive Dietary...

www.dietdoctor.com

 

[life]

...made a phone call to Nixon.

hey Brewer, excellent point. we're told these guys used s band and transmitted, with a two second delay, over 230,000 miles, through a vacuum.

google " power required to transmit 230000 miles at 2.2 GHz " and read what pops up.

... if not hundreds of NASA employees in the know. Successfully covered up.

though nasa is a civilian entity, it is heavily influenced by DoD, there is compartmentalization of information, so 99.9% would not be wiser, they monitored their equipment, did their job and that was that. There were whistleblowers, like Grissom, and likely those in the know were told they would receive the same fate if they spoke out. this nonsense about Armstrong and crew being somber during the interview because they saw aliens, uh huh... or maybe it was watching their colleague roast alive in a pressurized O2 can and then being told that the same fate awaited them or their family should they go off script - nah, it must have been the aliens ; )

 

[T.C.]

Considering the response provided by C's, I'd like to recommend Kyle Griffith's War in Heaven

When I’ve had time, I’ve been reading through War in Heaven. So far, I am not impressed.

I genuinely believe that it is channelled material and not simply invented by the author. The problem is that the source is suspect. Plus, it seems to me like the author has certain biases, rooted in ego.

The author believes in reincarnation and cites good material on the reality of it. But early on, it appears that the author believes that less than 1% of people on Earth have had past lives, and that (and here’s where his ‘specialness program’ kicks in), he believes that people who reincarnate are those who studied the occult in their past lives and were members of secret societies. The implication here is that if you want to have another life after this one, you need to get involved in magic.

The author talks a lot about how the spirit world is not all rainbows and unicorns and that actually it is a place full of troubled discarnate entities. It’s a good thing that the author was talking about this back in the 80s and wasn’t on a ‘love and light’ trip. But he says that the afterlife is divided into two warring parties. The bad guys created religions on Earth to drain soul energy; okay, fair enough. But, the good guys created what we now know to be COINTELPRO operations by the nefarious PTB, such as counter-culture groups and activism. I haven’t gotten further on why they did this but it’s a huge red flag for me.

He also goes into detail about what we now call ‘undergrounders’. He says the material he found on undergrounders resonates with him so much because he had a strong and vivid past life memory of actually BEING one himself. This is another red flag, since based on what he had to say about reality so far, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suspect that his book is itself undergrounders COINTELPRO. This suspicion is then greatly reinforced when, after going into a long explanation of the undergrounder material that he was familiar with (the bulk of which is incongruent with information contained in the Cassiopaean material - which has a very good ‘track record’ of reliability in general) he then turns around and says that what is depicted in undergrounder material is true, but it is not actually underground. In actuality, it is a materialistic representation of the spirit world, and that the source of the undergrounder material he has read is just a spirit describing the spiritual environment.

So, @panoptix, given that I have so far been almost completely unable to find anything in the first few chapters of the book that aligns with Cassiopaean explanations of areas covered by the author, what was your main purpose or intention in sharing the book?

Obviously I haven’t read it all yet, but based on what I’ve read so far, it isn’t filling me with motivation to carry on reading. The main reason I could see for doing so would be as an exercise in critical thinking and comparing with other channelled material.

@PopHistorian, maybe you would be interested in having a look at it?

 

[panoptix]

When I’ve had time, I’ve been reading through War in Heaven. So far, I am not impressed.

In that case, thank you to take your time to write me about it. First of all, I would like to point out that, in this answer, you will find no incentive to continue reading the book.

I genuinely believe that it is channelled material and not simply invented by the author. The problem is that the source is suspect. Plus, it seems to me like the author has certain biases, rooted in ego.

We agree: the source has a STS bias, and as I wrote in the thread of @MJF uses the Ra Material's “yellow-ray fuel,” as currency for the exchange of information with the medium. In fact, Griffith claims it in the first pages:

If you’ve experimented with Ouija boards, there’s an excellent chance you’ve spoken to spirits in this condition [that most entities on the astral plane are in mental states that we’d label as insane or feeble-minded]. And though the mediumistic literature does mention frequent contacts with “lost souls,” “earthbound spirits, “entities from the lower astral,” etc., it rarely describes them in detail or reveals that the vast majority of spirits the mediums contact are in this category. The plain truth is that if you’re going to accomplish anything at all as a medium, you have to work through a spirit guide.

A spirit guide is simply a spirit on the astral plane with sufficient mental stability and psychic powers to communicate easily with a particular medium, and who is willing to form a personal relationship. Another thing to look for between the lines of the literature: this relationship is often overtly sexual. A medium’s spirit guide often receives some of the energy raised during physical sexual activity. Only the Eastern Tantric magicians and Western students of sex magic write and talk openly about this, but almost all mediums practice it.

Incidentally, what author doesn't have certain biases ingrained in their ego?

The author believes in reincarnation and cites good material on the reality of it. But early on, it appears that the author believes that less than 1% of people on Earth have had past lives, and that (and here’s where his ‘specialness program’ kicks in), he believes that people who reincarnate are those who studied the occult in their past lives and were members of secret societies. The implication here is that if you want to have another life after this one, you need to get involved in magic.

I would like to clarify that I am not defending the author, I am simply correcting your assessment from what he has been written; if you referred to the assertion on p. 12, Griffith says: “However, the more I learned about reincarnation as described in the strongest past-life memory accounts, the less I came to believe that everybody who dies reincarnates. The only thing the evidence demonstrates clearly is that a few people, probably less than one percent of the population, remember a past life well enough to prove it. Many more, maybe a tenth to a quarter of the population, have subconscious past-life memories that can be accessed by hypnotic regression or other techniques. Some New Agers claim that everybody can learn to remember past lives, but I’ve never felt they even come close to proving it.”

So, I don't see your implication direct triggered by the aforementioned phrase. But, in the context of the first pages of the book, I see your “specialness program;” in my case I see in the words of Jay Kinney on p. 5: “Briefly put, the material in SR [Spiritual Revolution, the original title of the book when it appears in 1987] claims to emanate from a group of disembodied spirits informally called the ‘Invisible College.’ As one might guess from its name, this group says it was the force behind the development of groups such as the Freemasons and Rosicrucians.” And in this Q&A on p. 121:

Q. Well, it looks as if you used a form of religious mind control to raise the consciousness of the majority of people you worked with, because they had started out as religious believers and were used to such techniques. However, you taught more advanced psychic training techniques such as sex magic to the minority who were ready for it.
A. The important thing to recognize here is that even the most advanced magical lodges based on the Masonic/Rosicrucian tradition still train their members with rituals that employ the religious trance.

I think is a good moment to remember what you have said about the Egregores and this Q&A from Session 28 October 1994:

Q: (L) Is sage not useful?
A: You are learning; remember when we say “good no ritual?”

Q: (L) In other words, your knowledge and your strength which comes from your knowledge and knowing is the point and the protection?
A: Precisely. This is extremely important.

Q: (L) Alexandra David Neel quoted a lama who said we must beware of the children of our own minds as well as the children of the minds of others, such as thought forms perhaps created by higher negative beings. If we do not acknowledge that such things exist, are we then subject to being devoured by them?
A: Ritual drains directly to Lizard beings.

Q: (L) Even our saying of the Lord's prayer?
A: It is okay to pray. Why do you think organized religion is obsessed with rituals?

Q: (L) Is the same thing true of shamanistic practices and so forth?
A: Exactly.

Obviously I haven’t read it all yet, but based on what I’ve read so far, it isn’t filling me with motivation to carry on reading. The main reason I could see for doing so would be as an exercise in critical thinking and comparing with other channelled material.

Precisely. And think that STS has more than one faction and “lines of interest.”

I don't know if you have read the works of Karlheinz Deschner: Although he attended the Franciscan Seminary after the World War II, he started to research Christianity in general and the Catholic Church in particular, and worked on his ambitious Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums (Criminal History of Christianity) from 1970 to 2013.

His Magnus Opus is composed of ten volumes: from the early ancient Judaism and the Church Fathers up to Ignatius of Loyola and an outlook onto the aftermath of s. XVIII, but I don't know if it was translated from German to English.

What I can said is that the Spanish edition (Historia criminal del cristianismo) is truncated because The Society of Jesus bought Martínez Roca publishing house in order to suppress the volumes that speak of Loyola and to stop the Hispanic American circulation of the work. Perhaps you already known that the founder of the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt, was instructed by the Jesuits.

This will become more relevant with the faction of the Theocrats, as you progress through the book.

He also goes into detail about what we now call ‘undergrounders’. He says the material he found on undergrounders resonates with him so much because he had a strong and vivid past life memory of actually BEING one himself. This is another red flag, since based on what he had to say about reality so far, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suspect that his book is itself undergrounders COINTELPRO. This suspicion is then greatly reinforced when, after going into a long explanation of the undergrounder material that he was familiar with (the bulk of which is incongruent with information contained in the Cassiopaean material - which has a very good ‘track record’ of reliability in general) he then turns around and says that what is depicted in undergrounder material is true, but it is not actually underground. In actuality, it is a materialistic representation of the spirit world, and that the source of the undergrounder material he has read is just a spirit describing the spiritual environment.

Yes, he referrers to the “Shaver Mystery,” even graced with a remarkable lovecraftian touch, about Deros (detrimental robots) and Teros (integrative ones). But I don't see his vivid past life memory of being one himself; kindly quote it or point me to page number. Perhaps are you referring to this?

Of course, both the occultists and the religious believers claim that such messages are from demons and other evil or insane spirits, but that doesn’t answer the most important question. If the astral plane is under the control of benign forces, why does so much of the observed evidence portray existence there as extremely harsh and unpleasant?

Most of the occultists I discussed this with over the years before I made the breakthrough were not interested in doing serious research into this. Many put the blame on me: “You’re too political and too concerned with the Earth plane, and this puts you in contact only with the lowest levels of the astral plane. If you’ll stop trying to play scientist, and simply submit your will to the spiritual forces that run the Universe, your mediumistic experiences will become calm and serene and you’ll start contacting the really advanced spirits and deities.”

My reply usually went something like this: “Maybe I really am at a lower stage of spiritual development than you are, but if so, then I’ve got a lot of company. My personal communications with spirits tell me that the vast majority of the human race is not composed of high-level occultists capable of avoiding the evil spirits on the lower astral and going on to a higher plane of existence. Instead, when they die, it’s very likely they’ll join the lost souls calling for help. My sympathies are with them, and I’d like to learn how to help them.”

I think his attempts to blend 3D politics with what happens in the upper states of being are valid and are in the same vein as Dr. William J. Baldwin's CE-VI or Carl A. Wickland's Thirty Years Among the Dead, although perhaps with less immediate success. It's certainly positive that we study the next level of densities, but we're already at this one, and there's something specific to do about it.

Perhaps we should also have a minimum of external consideration towards the author, and consider that at the “time of writing” he may not have had the opportunity to read the Gurdjieff, or Oahspe, or Ra Material et al.

 

[RedFox]

Being very introverted is probably the root cause. I couldn't even talk to girls in my teens and 20s so looking was the only attraction. When online showed up in my early 30s (pre-internet) I did great with attraction talking dirty online but things fell apart immediately when it became in-person. I was able to kiss all three (the third being my wife) but I had to stop the first two when we started to go all the way (it simply didn't feel right). My wife is conservative Catholic so I didn't have to worry until the wedding night. My wife has also been at least 80 pounds heavier than me so that might not have helped things geometry-wise (no one else to compare that to though).

Well, I've been thinking about your posts.
Studying relationships, how we relate, the things that can get in the way (programs, trauma, conditioning), the languages of communication (attachment styles, love languages, personality types etc) is something that interests me a lot.
What is clear is that most things in life, we (everyone) don't have a clue - unless you've taken time to learn, and observe yourself and others.

The Work we are engaged in (of knowing the self, and the world) - studying human relationships (including our own) seems to be incredibly important. How can we learn about ourselves if we don't listen to others? Not blindly of course, but not dismissively either.

On that, one thing is clear from the romance novels and studying healthy relationship dynamics/tools - communication is the key to everything. Especially sex. What goes on in the bedroom should be considered a concentrated microcosm of your relationship as a whole.
That is:
Are there things that you don't discuss (in the bedroom, outside the bedroom related to the bedroom etc)?
Is it tense (sympathetic activation), dismissive/clingy (poor communication, attachment style issues), short, fraught (sympathetic activation), addictive/taking/performing for 'love/attention' (STS, dopamine dominance, cortisol, oxytocin suppression, attachment style issues - connected to all past programming, traumas, and not knowing yourself/others/how to communicate), uncomfortable (physically or emotionally), not something you want to do (hormone problems, past trauma/programming, physical issues), and overall generally unpleasant and to be avoided.
Or is it loving (oxytocin), giving (STO), kind (oxytocin), funny (vagal activation), passionate (correct hormone levels, emotional safety through good communication), sexy, playful/relaxed (parasympathetic activation), deep (proper bonding and healing), fulfilling, and full of desire (to know and be with your partner).

You can get a read on the whole relationship by the bedroom.

Ran across this today that goes into some detail on the above aspects. The video could even be considered an embodied example of a positive relationship, you can see it in the way the people in the video communicate - the nonverbal, the tone of voice etc

 

[T.C.]

Yes, he referrers to the “Shaver Mystery,” even graced with a remarkable lovecraftian touch, about Deros (detrimental robots) and Teros (integrative ones). But I don't see his vivid past life memory of being one himself; kindly quote it or point me to page number.

Pages 9-10:

Ironically, my own past-life memories aren’t of much use in providing proof of reincarnation. They are extremely vivid and occur to me frequently, both in dreams and as flashes of memory when I’m awake; but there is no way to verify them with factual evidence, because they are not memories of a past life on Earth. The people in them, including me, are slightly different anatomically from Earth people, and the setting seems to be an advanced technological society much different from anything I’ve ever seen described in science fiction.

The general impression is that the society lives underground or on a space station of some kind, not on the surface of a planet. The people seem to live entirely indoors in an endless series of inter-connecting rooms, and the “doors” connecting them may be teleportation devices. There are almost no artifacts of any kind visible in most of the scenes, not even furniture: people just sit or recline in mid-air. Maybe it’s done with anti-gravity devices. All of the machines seem to be hidden away, and there are no physical control panels. Apparently, everyone is hooked up telepathically to an elaborate computer system, and people operate the equipment just by thinking.However, when someone does this, images of machines and control panels seem to appear in mid-air.

I still have vivid memories of dreaming about such things when I was only three or four years old. When I put the childish picture-memories and emotions into adult words, they go something like this: “I dreamed that I was turning into a machine. No, not a mechanical man. I was part of a big machine, like a factory, and it kept getting bigger and bigger, and I knew I was supposed to control it with my thoughts, but I just didn’t know the right things to think.” These flashes of memory have been very important to me all of my life, because they often contain instructions for controlling and using my psychic powers or other mental faculties that I have trouble accessing with my conscious mind alone. They are probably the single most significant factor that helped prepare me for the breakthrough in spiritual consciousness that led to the writing of this book.

This whole quote is full of red flags.

Unfortunately, I obviously misread the 1% part. Thank you for pointing that out. The sentiment still stands though, that in the author's opinion, it's mainly only people who have been involved in spiritual practices that reincarnate. The very works he quotes contradict this idea. But he believes he is special, and that biases his take on the subject.

So far I believe the book is significant for the time it was published. But it is disinformation, published by a guy who had his ego stroked by either some mid-level discarnate entities, or 4D STS, or thought-beaming undergrounders who wanted to deliberately confuse and mislead those who are looking for the truth.

I read a bit more today on my lunch break. According to the author, it was the 'good guys' in the spiritual realm who caused the assassination of JFK because he was going to cause nuclear war. He also is massively in favour of the idea that there is a secret cabal of occultists who have and are leading humanity to harmony via their shadowy manipulations.

If I wanted to review the whole book, I'd pretty much have something critical to write for each paragraph in the book.

We agree: the source has a STS bias, and as I wrote in the thread of @MJF uses the Ra Material's “yellow-ray fuel,” as currency for the exchange of information with the medium.

Okay, I understand why you mentioned the book, now. It might have been a good idea on your part to reference the specific area or areas of the book that you thought were pertinent to the discussion, since when I started to read it, I was then obligated to warn and inform the other forum members of the kinds of ideas it contained.

Perhaps we should also have a minimum of external consideration towards the author, and consider that at the “time of writing” he may not have had the opportunity to read the Gurdjieff, or Oahspe, or Ra Material et al.

I have full external consideration for the author in that I give him his due. But what is his due? He wandered uncritically into the jungle of discarnate entities because he liked the idea of being a psychic and the result of his work - which came from his 'spiritual breakthrough' that he mentions in passing about twice every chapter so far and gave him the ability to produce automatic writing - is to make an area of scientific study that is difficult enough to study already, even more difficult to study.

 

[life]

(Nienna) In previous posts, the C's have said that the Apollo mission did take men to the moon and Neil Armstrong did walk on the moon although the dates stated in the session were not quite accurate. Do the C's still say that this is true?

A: Yes

if i understand this correctly the C's went from "no comment" 25 years ago (9sep00) to "yes"(23sep23), and "yes" again (6dec25) with respect to the plausibility of the apollo moon landings.

yet during these sessions there was no followup question to this moon landing information, and when the latest session information was presented no forum member questioned the validity of the answer, no one said 'whoa hang on a sec'; unless i missed a comment, otherwise, NO ONE disagreed - instead members who commented about the moon landing were thankful to the C's for clearing the issue up; other members who thought the moon landing was a hoax now thanked the C's for setting the record straight.

wow !?

the apollo moon landing question wasn't some lightweight question like: " did my deceased cat make it to 5D ? ", no, it was
a bailiwick of colossal significance, with complexities and contexts where a single word answer falls unrealistically short of substance and appreciation - and that's likely why the C's, twenty five years ago, said "no comment" because they knew the ramifications.

my thoughts: the C's are not infallible, they either made a mistake, the session unknowingly channelled some entity other than the C's, or the superluminal C's experiment ran out of gas over a decade ago and this was an example of creative fiction, or maybe just maybe the C's were correct ... LOL hahahha no, no i'm just messing with you, not for one second did i ever think their answer was anything but pasture paddy-cake.


thanks for taking the time to read this,
life

ps: Wallace explains it...

 

[Faca Fritz]

Hello again @panoptix,

1) About Freemasonry’s structure and knowledge distribution​

To be honest, I wouldn’t say that the first three degrees in Freemasonry (basically Craft Masonry) are superficial or that they do not convey core Masonic doctrine. That said, in Freemasonry we also know that they are relatively “light,” so to speak, in terms of esotericism.

Indeed, the fact that Craft Masonry is relatively basic and straightforward is well known. Some Masons even find the higher degrees a bit confusing or more esoteric. For example, as you can see in this article (which I read a few days ago), the author acknowledges that Masonic appendant bodies like the Holy Royal Arch can be far more confusing than the Craft degrees:

An Esoteric Interpretation of the Holy Royal Arch – The Square Magazine



The claim that “true doctrinal knowledge is accessible only to a small minority (<10%)” is somewhat misleading. Yes, it is already known that as you progress further or deeper, you are said to understand the core meaning of Freemasonry better. So while non-Masons often claim that something is hidden even from Masons themselves, this is actually one of the first things a Mason learns when he is initiated.

Therefore, instead of saying that true doctrinal knowledge is limited to 10%, I would say that the deeper meaning of Freemasonry is limited to around 10%—and the remaining ~90% are aware of this as well. I know, for example, that as a Mason who has just completed the Craft, my knowledge of Freemasonry is not the same as that of a Mason who is 30th degree in the AASR or a member of Royal and Select Masters.

Regarding the rites, I wouldn’t say that the AASR and the York Rite are right- or left-oriented. Both are rites that further explore what you have already started in the Craft. You can be a member of both, or neither, and still join other orders (such as the Shriners, Secret Monitor, or SRIA). So describing one as more Gnostic and the other as more French or British is, in my opinion, misleading and subjective.

All I would say is that the AASR (Scottish Rite) is more structured and ordered than the York Rite, which consists of the Craft and three separate independent bodies.

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2) About diversity within Freemasonry​

Yes, it is true that each Orient or Grand Lodge is slightly different from the others. However, at the core, they are ultimately doing the same thing. So although the meaning does not change from one Grand Lodge to another, the way the message is conveyed and how the ritual is worked differs—not only from Grand Lodge to Grand Lodge, but even from Lodge to Lodge, for obvious reasons.

There are also different ritual workings that each Grand Lodge accepts. So even without another Grand Lodge involved, you can still end up with two accepted rituals being worked by two different lodges under the same Grand Lodge.

It is said that around 70% of UGLE lodges use Emulation working
(Emulation Ritual 13th Edition (Pocket) - Regalia Store UK),
but there are also others such as Taylor's, Logic, Universal, Duncan's and so on—and all are valid and accepted by the same Grand Lodge.

So in a sense, you can speak of Freemasonries (plural), but they are still essentially doing the same thing, with slightly different curricula and methods of presentation.

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3) About Fulcanelli and related literature​

I will have to read those books you mentioned before I can comment properly. So, again I don't know:

• Una lectura masónica a las enseñanzas de Fulcanelli
• Las Cuatro Alas del Mercurio (Apiano León de Valiente & Sandra Maitri)

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Fulcanelli had some connection to Freemasonry. After all, the cathedrals he mentions in The Mysteries of the Cathedrals are known to have been built by operative masons, who are the predecessors of today’s speculative Masons. So, if he found Alchemical secrets there, they were very likely to be of Masonic origin.

Please see the PDF I attached (The Five Noble Orders of Architecture), which was given to me by UGLE. It is a short article explaining how the magnificent edifices of Europe were built by operative masons of the past, including those cathedrals and others. You may only need to read the last paragraph to see what I mean.

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4) About Latin America as an esoteric hotspot​

I mean, Latin and South America certainly have a rich culture and history, with a lot to learn from (I like the work of Don Juan as suggested by Laura). Unfortunately, though, many people there seem to be involved in voodoo-like practices or New Age mumbo jumbo.

Regarding the UFO subject and what Jacques Valle says about South America, I think we can read more about that from the Cassiopaean Substack. Like you mentioned, UFOs (together with the window fallers) are very active South America.

That said, I definitely want to visit South America one day.

Yes, it is interesting that neither Freemasonry, nor guru teachers, divide their teachings into those who are Organic Portals and those who have an individual soul. Also, no religion.

 

[axj]

Hello everyone, following this session, I would like to know if anyone living in France has any advice on dietary supplements for detoxifying the body of heavy metals and preventing iodine, copper and vitamin C deficiencies, based on the C's recommendations.

For heavy metals detox it seems to be a good idea to start with Alpha Lipoic Acid for at least a few months and then do the DMSO protocol for more in-depth detox.

For Iodine, Lugol's seems to be a good supplement. I also like the Shilajit supplement for dozens of trace minerals, some of which may be missing in our diets.

 

[T.C.]

@panoptix My apologies again. You did quote the relevant passage in your message to MJF.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

if i understand this correctly the C's went from "no comment" 25 years ago (9sep00) to "yes"(23sep23), and "yes" again (6dec25) with respect to the plausibility of the apollo moon landings.

yet during these sessions there was no followup question to this moon landing information, and when the latest session information was presented no forum member questioned the validity of the answer, no one said 'whoa hang on a sec'; unless i missed a comment, otherwise, NO ONE disagreed - instead members who commented about the moon landing were thankful to the C's for clearing the issue up; other members who thought the moon landing was a hoax now thanked the C's for setting the record straight.

wow !?

the apollo moon landing question wasn't some lightweight question like: " did my deceased cat make it to 5D ? ", no, it was
a bailiwick of colossal significance, with complexities and contexts where a single word answer falls unrealistically short of substance and appreciation - and that's likely why the C's, twenty five years ago, said "no comment" because they knew the ramifications.

my thoughts: the C's are not infallible, they either made a mistake, the session unknowingly channelled some entity other than the C's, or the superluminal C's experiment ran out of gas over a decade ago and this was an example of creative fiction, or maybe just maybe the C's were correct ... LOL hahahha no, no i'm just messing with you, not for one second did i ever think their answer was anything but pasture paddy-cake.


thanks for taking the time to read this,
life

ps: Wallace explains it...

Just for context, here's what the C's said "no comment" to:


Session 9/9/2000:

Q: (L) Okay, moving right along here. We have here a guy who has written a paper that says: "To make interstellar travel believable, NASA was created. The Apollo space program foisted the idea that man could travel to and walk upon the moon. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in the large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commission's Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in the secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney studios within which was a huge, full scale mock-up of the Moon." Is it true that the Apollo missions were films as described here?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did the Apollo missions actually go into space as we think they did?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) This guy further writes that "All names, missions, landing sites and events in the Apollo space program echo the occult metaphors, rituals and symbology of the Illuminati secret religion. The most transparent was the fakes explosion on the spacecraft Apollo 13 named 'Aquarius' at 1:13 on April 13, 1970, which was a metaphor for the initiation ceremony involving the death, placement of the coffin, communion with the spiritual world, and the imparting of esoteric knowledge to the candidate, rebirth of the initiate, and the raising up of Phoenix, the new age of Aquarius by the group of the Lion's Paw..." and so on and on. Was this occult significance applied to these events, either deliberately or accidentally?
A: Maybe coincidentally.
Q: (L) If there was any coincidence of application of these principles, did it bespeak an underlying synchronous or nonlocal reality of oneness?
A: These ideas being put forth this evening are entertaining if nothing else!
Q: (L) Well, I always said that you could derive occult significance from where the paper man tosses the paper on the lawn if you try hard enough! Nevertheless, this guy further writes that "The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, solar flares, temperature control and many other problems connected with space travel, prevent living organisms from leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings. If you doubt this, please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moon surface enclosed in a space suit, in full sunlight, absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat, surrounded by a vacuum. And that is not even taking into consideration any of the effects of the cosmic radiation, solar flares, micro-meteorites, etc." Comment please?
A: No comment!

First, pnote this -
Q: (L) Did the Apollo missions actually go into space as we think they did?
A: Yes.

Sounds like a pretty clear "yes" to me.

The "no comment" was not in response to any specific question, but to a general request for a comment for someone's confident proclamations that they already mentioned are "entertaining" at best.

What kind of follow-up questions did you expect?

my thoughts: the C's are not infallible, they either made a mistake, the session unknowingly channelled some entity other than the C's, or the superluminal C's experiment ran out of gas over a decade ago and this was an example of creative fiction, or maybe just maybe the C's were correct ... LOL hahahha no, no i'm just messing with you, not for one second did i ever think their answer was anything but pasture paddy-cake.

Sounds like you have a very strong opinion on the topic, and anything that doesn't support it is suspect and/or dismissed.
Have you considered the possibility that your opinion is incorrect?
Maybe there were no follow-up questions because no one participating in the session was strongly attached to the idea that the moon landings were fake? So they took it at face value and as "food for thought"?

Also it sounds like you have some serious reservations about the C's material (or Laura's and her family's honesty, accusing them of writing fiction) over the last decade - so it goes way beyond just the moon landing. Which is fine, to each their own. But then why are you even here? You didn't bring up any specific points of contention to discuss, you just made a disingenuous dig at Laura, like a drive-by insult that you just casually threw in there.

You realize that's very rude and unproductive right? You walk into someone's digital house and casually and without providing any reasoning or evidence accuse them of deceiving their entire community for a decade. How would you react if someone walked into your house and did the same?