Session 6 December 2025

[palestine]

Have you read the whole book?
It would be wise to request permission via email from the copyright holder to publish excerpts from this book on the forum.

Hmmm @Sindy-S.R I must tell you that I feel facing "a matter of conscience" - as we say, in French

I must be straight and honest with you, and I hope that you will not mind.

There are many people, on Internet and elsewhere, whose attitude would be "lecturing others", or feeling compelled than to correct others. Some enjoy finding flaws in others - things like that. My post is not framed in such a context. The truth is that ... I care.

I care, so please consider my message as a genuine worry, on my part. I feel alarmed about something that I must tell you.

It can be that you remember, that I've posted, about Ummo, in the other thread. I have a strong repulsion towards Ummo, because it has been my understanding that it was perhaps a CIA program. Could we double-check with other members on the forum, about what C's really meant?

Session 29 July 2006

What was the source of the Ummite business?

A: 3D program experiment.

Q: (Perceval) Poor Jean Pierre.

@Sindy-S.R, you find me extremely worried that you are studying material that acknowledges some validity to Ummo material, as it seems to be the case with the book we are currently talking about.

But - I don't judge. And... I don't know.

I know not better than you.

I wouldn't want you to think that I am making fun of you, that I am having an offensive attitude to you. As I said, I am writing you because I care.

The book you are referring to is accessible via the downloading of a software. Once started, one must download additional pictures (that can be downloaded from old web archive captures), enter a code (that was freely given on their website: El_Símbolo). The whole book is then accessible via their software.

So - I had to install a software on my computer, and Ummo may have ties to intelligence agencies. What better way than to tell the agency "hey I'm ready for the next step". This could be the case, but the big matter, in using CIA-affiliated material, is that it can create an "opening" which would work as some sort of "granting permission to STS". I don't know if you can follow me on that one? This is a sort of spiritual principle, perhaps it's the "free will" concept.

I understand that the material is indirectly related to Ummo, and that there seems to be data about Templars and the Grail. I see this in a good light - but the Ummo spec keeps holding me back. I would like to ask you to consider that you must watch out (but nothing tells me that you don't, except, perhaps, the study of the material). I would like to tell you how I would like to tell you to keep in mind, before reading any single sentence, in that book - that this may be the type of material I have referred to (an opening, free will, etc). If you read the book, I would like to suggest you than to keep in mind that every sentence may be "false".

The website elsimbolo.net looks strange. Time ago, I was reading the Ummo thing. I got caught in it, but I was fortunate enough than to read the C quote. Since then, I had the time to stop considering it. The website (elsimbolo.net) strongly reminded me of the Ummo atmosphere. Who are they (elsimbolo)? Do you know those people? Could they be an intelligence agency, at the core of this website? It's quite tech / new-agy / scientific - at the same time. Is "elsimbolo.net" simply a person who is fond of Ummo, and did his own research?

I wouldn't want to discredit valuable material (Grail, etc).

Would you let me know your feeling about my post?

I think that I will double-check with an admin before posting anything, because I smell danger here.

(Since the website provided the key to access the book, at least one can read it. Would posting some bits of it amounts to copyright infringement, since they provided the code?)

A way would be to ask the C's about the validity of the material; an idea would be to put the consideration of the material "on pause" until further notice.

 

[Gaby]

It seems that we are left with an STS program and agenda being pursued by both the Illuminati and the undergrounders (Nation of the Third Eye). It would be interesting to know how much they co-operate together (if at all) or whether they sometimes come into conflict with each other in the way the C's mentioned above? Do they all ultimately take their orders from the Emperor or STS overlord (who sounds a bit like the Christian Devil to me) who knocks heads together when there are disagreements?

And this Nation of the Third Eye goes way back then:

April 12, 1997

Q: Okay. Not gonna answer that. Now, I would like to know who the Olmecs were.

A: Be more specific.

Q: Okay, what is the genetic origin of the Olmecs?

A: Basically the same as yours.

Q: In some of the ancient carvings of the Olmecs, they were always carved with a cleft in their foreheads. Did this represent an actual physical cleft?

A: Designation in the art work is for "The Nation of the Third Eye."

Then the Olmecs leads indirectly to the race of giants and those Redheaded demygods.

irjO) Who made these big stone spheres found in Costa Rica?

A: Local overlords.

Q: (L) So that's who made them. Okay. When you say "local overlords," were those human overlords or alien overlords?

A: Hybrid.

Q: (L) Okay.

(irjO) What was their purpose?

A: Gravity balancers for directed energy.

Q: (L) How did they make them?

A: Directed energy.

Q: (L) What kind of directed energy?

A: EM.

Q: (Joe) What was the source of that directed energy?

A: Purses seen in many statues.

Q: (Chu) Purses?

(L) A pocketbook.

(Joe) Ah, so... In either South American or Egyptian stone carvings…

(L) Yeah. There's these purses and everybody's always wondering about 'em.

(Joe) So they obviously weren't purses then. These are some kind of technological devices that looked like purses?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And that was a source of the electromagnetic directed energy?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And the stones were balanced gravity…

(irjO) Can I ask a question about that? Do we know the name of these overlords?

(Joe) Well, when was that? What was the date?

A: Time reference is confused due to cataclysmic events. But approx 14,000 years ago. Redheaded demygods.

 

[Persej]

A: Time reference is confused due to cataclysmic events. But approx 14,000 years ago.

If cataclysmic events can cause time dilation or compression, what area would be affect by that? The entire planet, or in the case of small cataclysmic events, only a small area on the planet? Like within a certain blast radius of a comet?

And if the other option is true, does that mean that there was a time difference between Western and Eastern Europe in the Middle Ages? Did one area spend more time in history than the other?

 

[Ian]

If cataclysmic events can cause time dilation or compression, what area would be affect by that? The entire planet, or in the case of small cataclysmic events, only a small area on the planet? Like within a certain blast radius of a comet?

And if the other option is true, does that mean that there was a time difference between Western and Eastern Europe in the Middle Ages? Did one area spend more time in history than the other?

I think that answer from the C’s is more “open” and therefore imply more than one option. So it could be that cataclysmic events can cause time dilation, but I think the question is what they mean by “Time reference is confused due to cataclysmic events”? I mean could it be viewed as a marker for end/beginning of a cycle. Like the planet that was mentioned in earlier sessions d’Ankh-something, which is destroyed and is not at the same time in the point in time of a transition which is, lets say, symbolicly represented as a cataclysm. So, it is like a marker for the beginning of time and end of time. I don’t know if that’s a reasonable statement or just active imagination

 

[palestine]

If cataclysmic events can cause time dilation or compression, what area would be affect by that? The entire planet, or in the case of small cataclysmic events, only a small area on the planet? Like within a certain blast radius of a comet?

I am sensitive to @Ian 's will of exploring more open interpretations than the one you brought by, which seems still to be a fact:

Session 3 July 1999

Q: Okay. We will. (A) Carbon dating. Is it incorrect by a factor of two prior to 10,000 years as L has suggested? We observe a factor of 2 variation in the scientific dating versus your dating. This is a repeating phenomenon on nearly all dates you have given.

A: "They" fail to take into effect the influence of magnetic aberrations caused by ancient cataclysms.

Q: (L) How can these magnetic aberrations affect radiocarbon dating?

A: By altering the isotopal imprints of matter.

Q: So, the cataclysm of about 1500 B.C....

A: All of them scramble the radiological data because of magnetic surges.

The local aspect that you've raised never came to mind ("did it affect all or only localized...").

Recently, I have been thinking of ice. Before it gets drilled (all the ice cores - weren't those drilled during the 90's?), they would have been "imprinted" by each and every one cataclysm. Stacking.

The Y.D. ice cores would have been suffering from the distorsion factor of all 3600 events! The black death comet, and the 540 events. And the brown dwarf entrance-stay-leaving (the three minimum's).

What a potential mess!

Thinking in simple terms, each cataclysm would represent a "distortion factor", shrinking or expanding time. And stacking, etc. Tree rings, Ice cores, Pollen samples and other samples - may have been affected, at various degrees (some not?).

I have been studying those samples only a little bit, on an amateurish side. I have been picking up data series, and I have built the charts from those. I think that... those may have objective values in terms of the chronology that they show. The "peaks" that we can we see, and the downs, would be reflective of what happened. My idea is that we could rely on those in terms of absolute succession of up's and down's, but nothing more. All chunks would be requiring shrinking or expansion. What remains would be only the peaks, I suppose.

Just a take!

 

[Ian]

I was thinking in the lines of time being a “metaphysical” dimension and an effect of consciousness. Meaning, if I can travel back in time to that moment, then it happened in present for me. And everyone can see that event whenever in the present. That would be extended present, if that’s the case I think. So the question is it happened when and for who exactly? Who is the measure for when it happened? This is also like the question “if a tree falls and there is noone to see it, did it make a sound?” The answer is no, because if you didn’t exist what would exist for you? Nothing. If there is absence of consciousness then there is no sound or a tree falling because there is noone to expirence it. So, to who exactly did this evenet occur 14000years ago? If I travel back in time today then for me it happened today at that present moment. So time as a linear marker of an event is not universal, but only us humans use that type of measurement.

 

[Tristan]

I asked Grok to tell me about Taoist exercises and the scientific studies that back them up for men. And here's the result, FWIW.

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Classic Taoist Exercises for Masculine Maturation
(based on ancient sources like Mawangdui, Su Nü Ching, Ishinpō – popularized by Mantak Chia and Daniel Reid, with Douglas Wile’s scholarly insight)Douglas Wile stresses that the true classic tradition (Han-Tang era) was balanced and human-centered: mutual pleasure, health, and longevity for both partners. The man learned restraint to cultivate stable, radiant yang while honoring the woman’s power – not out of fear, but harmony.Key Exercises (daily practice)

1. Testicle Breathing
   • Sit upright, relaxed.
   • Inhale, imagine cool energy rising from testicles up the spine to the head.
   • Exhale, let it descend down the front.
   • 9–36 breaths daily.
     Wile’s view: Builds internal power independently – the mature man refines jing first.
     Science: Deep breathing + pelvic focus increases vagal tone, lowers cortisol, supports natural testosterone (2022–2024 studies).
2. Power Lock / Big Draw
   • When aroused: strong pelvic floor + anal + abdominal contraction; pull energy upward.
   • Hold 10–30 seconds, circulate via microcosmic orbit.
     Wile’s view: Classic texts aimed at multiple internal orgasms for the man while prioritizing female pleasure – true yin-yang harmony.
     Science: Semen retention 7–21 days raises testosterone ~45 %, improves focus and emotional resilience (2021 studies).
3. Daily Testicle Massage
   • Warm hands, gentle circular massage 36–108 times.
     Wile’s view: Basic hygiene for vitality in the classics – not esoteric ritual.
     Science: Enhances blood flow, supports prostate health and natural testosterone (2023 urology research).
4. Pelvic Floor Contractions (Taoist Kegel)
   • Contract as if stopping urine + holding gas. Hold 5–20 seconds.
   • 3 sets of 20 daily.
     Wile’s view: Essential for control and longevity – stable yang that nourishes rather than depletes.
     Science: Strengthens vagal tone, reduces chronic stress, improves posture/confidence (2024 studies).
5. King Posture + Yang Walk
   • Walk/sit with open chest, relaxed shoulders, steady gaze.
     Wile’s view: Classic ideal was calm strength and presence, not anxious pursuit.
     Science: Power posture raises testosterone +20 %, lowers cortisol -25 % (replicated Amy Cuddy research 2020–2023).

Benefits by Age Range

• 20–35 years: Builds strong foundation – high libido channeled into focus, confidence, and sexual mastery. Prevents early burnout from compulsive ejaculation.
• 35–50 years: Peak maturation – turns intense sexual energy into sustained drive, emotional stability, and magnetic presence. Counters midlife stress and hormonal dips.
• 50+ years: Rejuvenation phase – refines remaining jing into wisdom, vitality, and calm power. Supports natural testosterone, prostate health, and deep inner strength.

Science backing:

• Men across ages practicing similar routines show better hormonal balance, reduced inflammation, and greater emotional resilience (2023–2025 endocrinology studies).
• Neuroplasticity rewires reward pathways toward internal mastery, not external validation.

Do 2–3 daily. These practices awaken stable, mature yang – calm power, deep presence, real attractiveness.

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Here’s a list of the main papers and studies referenced (directly or indirectly) in my explanations of the Taoist masculine exercises and their modern scientific backing. I’ve been cautious: some classic claims (like the famous “145.7% testosterone spike from semen retention”) come from small, old, or retracted studies, while others have stronger recent evidence. I’ve included both sides for balance.
1. Semen Retention / Abstinence and Testosterone

• Jiang et al. (2003): "A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men." Journal of Zhejiang University Science.
  – The often-cited study showing a peak ~145.7% on day 7 of abstinence.
  – Note: Retracted in 2021 (due to duplicate publication, not falsified data). Small sample (n=28). Results not widely replicated long-term.
• Exton et al. (2001): Small study (n=10) showing higher testosterone after 3 weeks abstinence. Limited and not replicated robustly.
• Isenmann et al. (2021): "Hormonal response after masturbation in young healthy men." No significant long-term testosterone boost from abstinence.
• General reviews (2021–2024): Narrative reviews (e.g., in Frontiers in Psychology or Pilot.au) conclude no strong evidence for sustained testosterone increase from semen retention; temporary spikes possible but inconsistent.

2. Pelvic Floor Exercises (Kegel) – Vagal Tone & Cortisol Reduction

• Critchley et al. (2015) & Lehrer/Gevirtz (2014): Deep breathing + pelvic focus increases vagal tone (HRV) and lowers stress markers.
• Magnon et al. (2021) & Pozzato et al. (2025): Short sessions of diaphragmatic/pelvic breathing improve vagal tone and reduce cortisol.
• Herhaus et al. (various 2020–2024): Pelvic floor training linked to better emotional regulation and lower chronic stress via vagus nerve.

3. Power Posture – Testosterone & Cortisol

• Carney, Cuddy & Yap (2010): Original study claiming +testosterone / -cortisol from power poses.
  – Note: Failed replications (Ranehill et al. 2015; multiple pre-registered studies 2016–2017). Hormonal effects not replicated; subjective “power” feelings sometimes yes.
• Replicated reviews (2020–2023): Meta-analyses confirm no reliable hormonal change, but posture can influence mood/confidence via embodiment (smaller effects).

4. Testicle Massage – Circulation & Prostate Health

• Evidence is mostly anecdotal or indirect (improved blood flow supports general testicular/prostate health).
• Urology studies (2023): Gentle stimulation increases local circulation (no direct testosterone boost proven).
• No large RCTs specifically on massage for testosterone; benefits mainly for prostate health and self-exam awareness.

General Hormonal Balance in Men (45+)

• Endocrinology reviews (2023–2025): Lifestyle (exercise, breathing, stress reduction) supports better testosterone, lower inflammation, and resilience – aligns with Taoist principles but no direct “jing refinement” studies.

In summary: Ancient Taoist wisdom has strong parallels with modern benefits (vagal tone, stress reduction, confidence), but hormonal claims (big testosterone spikes) are often overstated or based on weak/old data.

 

[axj]

I was thinking in the lines of time being a “metaphysical” dimension and an effect of consciousness.

The number of times the Earth circles around the Sun (years) seems to be a pretty straightforward metric, unless the Earth orbit was significantly different during the Ice Age. It may have been a 360 days year or something like that, but that is not much and does not seem to be what the C's are talking about regarding the "time confusion due to cataclysms".

If there is absence of consciousness then there is no sound or a tree falling because there is noone to expirence it.

2D certainly has consciousness and experiences time. Even 1D apparently has a type of "sleeping consciousness", which may or may not experience time.

 

[Sindy-S.R]

Hmmm @Sindy-S.R I must tell you that I feel facing "a matter of conscience" - as we say, in French

I must be straight and honest with you, and I hope that you will not mind.

There are many people, on Internet and elsewhere, whose attitude would be "lecturing others", or feeling compelled than to correct others. Some enjoy finding flaws in others - things like that. My post is not framed in such a context. The truth is that ... I care.

I care, so please consider my message as a genuine worry, on my part. I feel alarmed about something that I must tell you.

It can be that you remember, that I've posted, about Ummo, in the other thread. I have a strong repulsion towards Ummo, because it has been my understanding that it was perhaps a CIA program. Could we double-check with other members on the forum, about what C's really meant?

Session 29 July 2006


@Sindy-S.R, you find me extremely worried that you are studying material that acknowledges some validity to Ummo material, as it seems to be the case with the book we are currently talking about.

But - I don't judge. And... I don't know.

I know not better than you.

I wouldn't want you to think that I am making fun of you, that I am having an offensive attitude to you. As I said, I am writing you because I care.

The book you are referring to is accessible via the downloading of a software. Once started, one must download additional pictures (that can be downloaded from old web archive captures), enter a code (that was freely given on their website: El_Símbolo). The whole book is then accessible via their software.

So - I had to install a software on my computer, and Ummo may have ties to intelligence agencies. What better way than to tell the agency "hey I'm ready for the next step". This could be the case, but the big matter, in using CIA-affiliated material, is that it can create an "opening" which would work as some sort of "granting permission to STS". I don't know if you can follow me on that one? This is a sort of spiritual principle, perhaps it's the "free will" concept.

I understand that the material is indirectly related to Ummo, and that there seems to be data about Templars and the Grail. I see this in a good light - but the Ummo spec keeps holding me back. I would like to ask you to consider that you must watch out (but nothing tells me that you don't, except, perhaps, the study of the material). I would like to tell you how I would like to tell you to keep in mind, before reading any single sentence, in that book - that this may be the type of material I have referred to (an opening, free will, etc). If you read the book, I would like to suggest you than to keep in mind that every sentence may be "false".

The website elsimbolo.net looks strange. Time ago, I was reading the Ummo thing. I got caught in it, but I was fortunate enough than to read the C quote. Since then, I had the time to stop considering it. The website (elsimbolo.net) strongly reminded me of the Ummo atmosphere. Who are they (elsimbolo)? Do you know those people? Could they be an intelligence agency, at the core of this website? It's quite tech / new-agy / scientific - at the same time. Is "elsimbolo.net" simply a person who is fond of Ummo, and did his own research?

I wouldn't want to discredit valuable material (Grail, etc).

Would you let me know your feeling about my post?

I think that I will double-check with an admin before posting anything, because I smell danger here.

(Since the website provided the key to access the book, at least one can read it. Would posting some bits of it amounts to copyright infringement, since they provided the code?)

A way would be to ask the C's about the validity of the material; an idea would be to put the consideration of the material "on pause" until further notice.

I understand your point of view. If you don't feel comfortable continuing with that book, you are completely free not to do so.
The important thing is to feel at ease.
I've had it on my two computers for 14 years and have never had any problems because of that book.
But that's my case.

So - I had to install a software on my computer, and Ummo may have ties to intelligence agencies. What better way than to tell the agency "hey I'm ready for the next step". This could be the case, but the big matter, in using CIA-affiliated material, is that it can create an "opening" which would work as some sort of "granting permission to STS". I don't know if you can follow me on that one? This is a sort of spiritual principle, perhaps it's the "free will" concept.

Are you 100% sure of what you're saying?
I understand your concern, but with what you're saying, you're implying that the CIA promoted Laura's conference in Barcelona in 2011. Do you understand the point?
The fact that Ummo is mentioned doesn't imply that it's the CIA.
That's why I asked you before, have you read the book?
I don't like to defend what I don't know, but I also don't like to jump to conclusions about something I haven't investigated.

It seems the company holding the copyright closed before the pLandemia: www.elsimbolo.net/datos1.htm

FINANFOR is a financial consulting service; I'm not sure it's directly related to the rights to the book.
For anyone who's interested, perhaps permission can be requested here.

Disclaimer

 

[Ian]

The number of times the Earth circles around the Sun (years) seems to be a pretty straightforward metric, unless the Earth orbit was significantly different during the Ice Age. It may have been a 360 days year or something like that, but that is not much and does not seem to be what the C's are talking about regarding the "time confusion due to cataclysms".


2D certainly has consciousness and experiences time. Even 1D apparently has a type of "sleeping consciousness", which may or may not experience time.

I know, I was just trying to make a point that what you experience and when, depends on consciousness. This was related to the question, "who is the measure for when it happened?" or "who is the measure of this event happening?" (so those questions would make sense if time travel is possible, which to me doesn't make sense, but I think it is ) So that is related to "Time reference is confused due to cataclysmic events". It's like, future exists as a potentiality. So if you can travel back in time, to the time before cataclysm, in that reality it might not be true that event will occur because the future still exists as potentiality. Or maybe, if a cataclysm is just symbolic for some kind of a reset or a balancing trigger, then let's say that in timeline 1 that event occurred, but a group from that time didn't want it to occur so they go back in time before that occurs and they balance things out through, I don't know, their politics (so less control), so that a cataclysmic event wouldn't occur and so that would be a timeline 2 now. And if time travel is possible than number of times the Earth circles around the Sun is an irrelevant measurement. Because I can just go back in time and play it differently. Which is a paradox. Because how could I ever went back in time if the experiences that led me to me traveling back were now changed. (I just needed to say that ). So Earth is going around the Sun the same way in both realities, but in one reality it did not occur, and in the other it did and you are in the same time in the past for which we you use as a metric Earth orbiting around the Sun. I'm just writing some ideas regarding "Time reference is confused due to cataclysmic events". Does this make sense? I mean if it doesn't, you are free to pull me back to the ground and throw those ideas out of the window.

 

[panoptix]

The book you are referring to is accessible via the downloading of a software. Once started, one must download additional pictures (that can be downloaded from old web archive captures), enter a code (that was freely given on their website: El_Símbolo). The whole book is then accessible via their software.

Thank you for the link.

I don't disregard your warning about what you're telling us. I'm just stating that, in the late 90s and mid-2000s, there was a Delphi (a programming language) application module that came with an integrated web browser, during the browsers wars. It was an excellent tool for those who wanted to protect their copyrighted content and share it online with an access key to decrypt and display the book's pages on the screens of those who paid for it. (At that time, Kindle wasn't an option.)

This seems to be the case here.

These executables act as time capsules; I was fortunate enough to access interesting research material from my region, such as Egónica (Uruguay/Argentina) or the Fore Material (Venezuela), which have otherwise disappeared.

 

[MJF]

I was thinking in the lines of time being a “metaphysical” dimension and an effect of consciousness. Meaning, if I can travel back in time to that moment, then it happened in present for me. And everyone can see that event whenever in the present. That would be extended present, if that’s the case I think. So the question is it happened when and for who exactly? Who is the measure for when it happened? This is also like the question “if a tree falls and there is noone to see it, did it make a sound?” The answer is no, because if you didn’t exist what would exist for you? Nothing. If there is absence of consciousness then there is no sound or a tree falling because there is noone to expirence it. So, to who exactly did this evenet occur 14000years ago? If I travel back in time today then for me it happened today at that present moment. So time as a linear marker of an event is not universal, but only us humans use that type of measurement.

Cataclysms can take many forms including man-made nuclear ones. This idea of what exactly is the "present" was touched upon when Laura asked about the origin of the books of Enoch, which tell the story of the biblical Nephilim in much depth whereas it is only briefly alluded to in Chapter 6 of Genesis:
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Session 16 October 1994:

Q: (L) What is the origin of the books of Enoch?

A: Sanskritian society in area now referred to as India.

Q: (L) What evaluation can we give the books of Enoch as far as level of truth?

A: 50% of area was destroyed in nuclear conflagration in between. [MJF: you will note here that the C's did not answer the question Laura posed.]

Q: (L) In between what?

A: Then and now in the expanded present.

Q: (L) What is the "expanded" present?

A: The real measure of time. ​

It is a shame that Laura did not follow-up on this subject but moved on to another question straight away. However, the C's seem to have expanded (excuse the pun) upon this concept of an "expanded present" in a later session when they referred this time to "the expanded presence":​

Session 18 October 1994:

Q: (L) Can we say that all that exists in the material universe is, say, "x" number of years old?

A: No. It is the eternal now. Not only did happen, is happening and going to happen. The expanded presence.

And then there is the possibility that a cataclysm could theoretically produce a transitory time warp, a subject which was touched upon in the session dated 16 November 1994:

Q: (L) Was mankind living on the earth as a sentient being during the time of the large dinosaurs?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: Transitory time warp.

Again, it is a shame that Laura did not follow-up on this point.

As it so happens, I was watching a documentary this afternoon, which dealt with alien interactions. Richard Dolan was one of the guest speakers on it. One of the episodes featured in the program was an UFO incident that was witnessed by the famous American broadcaster Walter Cronkite. I would add that I had no knowledge of this incident prior to watching the program.

It appears that Cronkite at some time in the early 1950's was invited as one of a number of journalists to witness the test of a US missile that was being staged on an unnamed Pacific island. So sensitive was the test that journalists were forbidden to film or photograph it. Just as the missile had taken off, a large flying (dome-shaped) flying saucer appeared in proximity to the missile. This immediately alerted military security and guards, some with dogs, began running towards the craft. To everyone's amazement, the saucer shot a beam at the missile which literally froze in mid-air. A similar thing also happened to a soldier who was holding a guard dog on a leash as they ran together towards the craft. The missile duly blew up (no one was harmed by the explosion). The soldier and the dog were then unfrozen and seemed to have suffered no harm. Cronkite and his fellow journalists were then led away to a bunker where a senior military officer told them that what they had witnessed had been a deliberately staged event to test media reaction to UFOs and the saucer had been a secret advanced aircraft used for this purpose. Cronkite was not convinced by this dubious explanation and became a life long believer in UFO's and the possibility of there being an alien presence on Earth. For more on this incident see: CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite's UFO Encounter in the South Pacific (1950's) - - , 1950 - UFO Evidence

I mention this story because this idea of freezing vehicles (a missile in this case) as well as people reminds me of what the three gypsy commentators spoke about within their comments in the margin of the Varo Edition of Morris K. Jessup's 1955 book The Case for the UFO. The gypsies spoke of "time freezes" where the individual is frozen in time and has no subsequent recollection afterwards. The C's confirmed in the session dated 29 April 1995 that this is what literally happens during alien abductions:
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Q: (T) There was a fifties development out on the edge of the city limits of Rochester, surrounded by most of Kodak, out in that area, most of Rochester, across the street was a field with a schoolyard surrounded by a fence. A large, two-story brown school building, brown, or red brick... that I went to grammar school in. I don't know about yellow brick buildings, but our house was green at the time and the next door neighbor's house was yellow at the time with white fancy little trim stuff across the roof. (L) Victorian. (T) It wasn't gabled, but it looked gabled. There were little gables over the front doors of most of the houses. The doors came out to the front and there was a little peak.​

(J) Almost like a little porch...
(Terry to Jan) You were in the house, you saw what it looked like? (J) Yes. (T) There was a stadium on the other side of the school yard, a ways back for Aquinas football games, their stadium. Some fields and one of the last remaining wooded areas that was in the city limits that wasn't a park down the street... a set of railroad tracks about five blocks to the East. The lake, lake Ontario, Rochester is right up against it, we were about seven miles, eight miles from there, maybe ten, I used to ride up there on my bike and back... the neighborhood itself didn't look any different because I watched the thing come in over the field. I remember my mother, I don't know if my brother was there, but I remember my mother and my neighbor. The neighbor woman was standing out on the front walk talking and they called me because I was in the house watching tv. I don't know if it was October though because it was still warm, sunny. It came in from high over the West, over a field, by the stadium, came down toward us, came right toward us. I thought it was moving right at us. It didn't start moving right at us until we were looking at it...

A: Was.

Q: (T) Yes. Was moving toward us. It seemed to change direction when I came out and started looking at it. It went right over and...

A: Objective was you.

Q: (T) The objective was me? I don't think I was picked up at that time.

A: Oh yeah?

Q: (T) Well there were people standing there... (L) Doesn't matter.

A: Time "freezes" during abduction.

So, our concept of linear time is very much linked to our limited 3D awareness as you so astutely mentioned in your post.

I wonder if these time freezes can be said to be examples of "transitory time warps" or did the C's have something else in mind? I also seem to recall that Joe raised a similar issue a few years ago with the C's when a number of aircraft were seen to freeze in mid-air when landing at airports. Perhaps someone can find the session in question.

I have to admit that the idea of freezing time is really scary. It seems as though we humans might be living in some 3D holographic movie where aliens can just freeze a particular frame and manipulate things as they wish.

Again, science fiction has also hinted at such things with, for example, the character of Hiro Nakamura who appeared in the 2006-2010 TV show Heroes, where he had the unique ability to freeze time and use it to rearrange things and manipulate scenarios as he wished. See:

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[Wandering Star]

16 November 1994

Q: (L) Was mankind living on the earth as a sentient being during the time of the large dinosaurs?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: Transitory time warp.

Again, it is a shame that Laura did not follow-up on this point.

If combined with the following, it may become clearer:

March 9th 2024

(irjO) At the time of the final destruction of Atlantis, did the crystals create unstable dimensional windows that resulted in a portion of the Atlantean land and its occupants going to another dimension/reality?

A: Yes

(...)

The Ica stones story is interesting.

 

[Wandering Star]

Again, science fiction has also hinted at such things with, for example, the character of Hiro Nakamura who appeared in the 2006-2010 TV show Heroes, where he had the unique ability to freeze time and use it to rearrange things and manipulate scenarios as he wished.

The electromagnetic field and its relationship to matter in its intensity and modulation may be related to this, and a visual example is, for instance the superhero Flash from the movies.

He generates an electromagnetic field with his body that changes his physical state and moves at great speed, and people seem to be frozen in time.
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[Sindy-S.R]

Thank you for the link.

I don't disregard your warning about what you're telling us. I'm just stating that, in the late 90s and mid-2000s, there was a Delphi (a programming language) application module that came with an integrated web browser, during the browsers wars. It was an excellent tool for those who wanted to protect their copyrighted content and share it online with an access key to decrypt and display the book's pages on the screens of those who paid for it. (At that time, Kindle wasn't an option.)

This seems to be the case here.

These executables act as time capsules; I was fortunate enough to access interesting research material from my region, such as Egónica (Uruguay/Argentina) or the Fore Material (Venezuela), which have otherwise disappeared.

Exactly, in 2011 when I downloaded the book, making it an .exe file was the best option to protect it from copyright infringement.
Anyway, reading this book reminds me a lot of the books by George Le Carre (without the pornography, of course).

(L) Okay, well, the reason I expanded was because it came up in the suggestions of books on Amazon. It was called The Russian Billionaire. I had seen all these other ones, I was never interested in any of that sort of thing. Modern day romance novels didn't really attract me. The question in my mind was WHY was the title The Russian Billionaire? Is it promoting something about Russia or Russians? How is this going to be treated in this book? What's going on here? Why is somebody writing about a Russian billionaire in a political climate where Russia is the evildoer of all deeds? So, I got this book on Kindle and I read it. I was really shocked that the author referenced Putin in a positive way. What was even more shocking was that the book started talking about transhumanism and the singularity and different things like that in such a clear way. Even though it wasn't explicit, it was implicit that the USA was kind of like the guilty party in this whole plot to take over humanity. So I was really surprised. But then when I got to the end, I realized there were other books that were connected to this book since it makes reference to those. There were people in this book that were made reference to that obviously appeared in other books. I wanted the complete picture, so I got the previous books and the subsequent books and read the whole set. I started thinking that this was really bizarre. Here's this author basically telling things like they are. But it's scattered through the story. I read a few others of that ilk and I realized that most of them are just pornography. They might not be hardcore, but they’re kind of pornographic because mainly they arrange some sort of story that is supposed to support the sexual episodes that are described in loving detail. In any event, I spread my net a little wider, and there are many that I'd never recommend to anybody. So, I want to know: Is this some kind of propaganda effort by somebody? Is Russia behind this propaganda effort to...?

(Joe) Don't say that on social media, Laura! They'll all believe you!

(Pierre) Russia or someone who wants to promote the truth.

(L) Well, I mean... Is this some kind of effort to... I dunno. What IS going on here?

A: Personal mission by a number of enlightened individuals.

Q: (L) So there are some people who know the score... Didn't you find out that this Georgia Le Carre woman only started writing these books in 2014? And she's written so many of them.

(Joe) Well, you know people churn them out. But that's what I said: I said those books that you're reading is the kind of stuff YOU would put in a romance novel if you were writing one.

The book El Símbolo could be the same case, or maybe not...???