Here is my chain of thought: the C session tells us about the Ummo material (not the book "el simbolo"). The Ummo material is, at first degree, "aliens contacting humans to help them". I remember having read that book. One excerpt is a scientist saying that he received a letter, telling him to leave his window open during the night. The so-called "Ummo aliens" would then be able to come to him, and they told the scientist that they were "eager to lay their hands on the scientist's heart". <> "We will come by, let us touch your heart".
You see - a recurring concept has been found, among the researching community. It says that, yeah, there exist "aliens", some abduct people, some are good aliens. But
one thing that has been found, and this is a very recurring one - is that it's mostly the government who does many many "so-called abductions".
I am sure that many people will confirm this.
Ummo overall makes me
think, thanks to the C session, of "the government-type fake abduction" scenario. This exists; it covers the range of many many "abductions". Many "abductions by aliens" are not exactly it. Why not part of it? I dont' know.
Don't ask me why governments do that! I don't know.
So: when I look at the whole Ummo thing, and when I see those elements, I cannot prevent myself from picturing a scenario.
I don't know if this is the case. I absolutely have no proof.
And, well, it seems that the government who does those things is mostly CIA-affiliated. Secret programs, etc. It has ties to DARPA, and NSA. Those agenices have two faces, and they seem to operate quite a number of shadow projects, that even their government don't know about. It's a bit special those agencies - but we know they do.
@Sindy-S.R I cannot "prove" anything. I don't know "for sure". I would need to have access to the CIA office and find the papers!
I did not know. Hmm let me ask you because I would like to know more about the financing of the conference, please. Let's start again with the basic Ummo material. It popped up around 1950 or something, seems to me. It gathered, at the time, a certain number of scientists. Many Spanish ones if I remember correctly.
My question is: what's the degree of the link, between the financers of the conference, and this original "core" of the "first-Ummo followers"? Those, who financed the conference, are they just "Ummo-afficionados", or are they "the core", of 1950 (who pursued the studies etc etc)?
I understand that the people who financed the conference have ties to "el simbolo", rather than "the Ummo core people". "El simbolo" seems to be a research that "uses" Ummo. To what degree, I don't know. The idea would be to define how much importance "el simbolo" attaches to "Ummo". Is "Ummo", to them, the very core of the matter - or is it a side study, that they use, in correlation to various different research? Only you can tell me because I did not read the book "el simbolo".
The CIA promoting Laura's conference would be a possibility! Overall! I have no judgment about that if such was the case. The CIA sponsored many many things and if we don't know, we just don't know. That does not make Laura - CIA , in my mind, right?
I think that the CIA or an organism of a similar type is consciously doing the Ummo thing as a sort of mind control program. It would be to slow down people in their progression towards STO, things like that. This is what I think was the goal of "Ummo". Just another mkultra-like program, like the LSD wave, the MKULTRA projects, all the sects that the CIA has been setting up. I am using "CIA" because they especially illustrated themselves into this types of activities. They just ruined many many generations' minds. And today, as if their bad deeds haven't been enough - we must deal with Greenbaum. Honestly, we swim in a sea of many many potential mind control projects at every street corner. In the end, there is few material that is not it. You can see this: every time a person posts a new material here, it's discarded most of the time. People prefer to study reality through "romance books" because it brings more results for STO growth. This is a pity, this is crazy.
Wouldn't we ask C's about the "elsimbolo" book? "Is this material to be considered"?
Yes of course you are right.
We are used to stumble upon material that has specific "things". The "el simbolo" has some things that
may be raising alarms in several people. It has been the case with me:
- mention of Ummo (big red flag)
- technology too high for an era in which it was less accessible and developped
- a layer of tech-space-transcendence-serious-tech
- the financial layer
So no definite conclusion here in regard of "elsimbolo"! Just a "watch out".
No I haven't. i just figured out that it was possible to read it, as I said. But it's a bit a dishonest trick so I won't read it.
Browsing old versions of the "elsimbolo" site shows a website initially dedicated to finance. This has been very odd to find out. Seems the people there were engaged into a sort of "economical predictivity". Really not bad. I know Spanish people and they always loved tech, and innovative approaches. Like Dutches. And so the "financial" aspect is just "a hint". A red flag, just something that comes a bit out when I see it.
What I mean is that this website is very very atypical for the time in question and that this catches attention.
The material has "Ummo" in it and this catches attention.
The book can only be read via an electronical interface - and this catches attention.
I trained this like a muscle: when too many
"it catches attention" and that I can see it, I leave. 90% of the time, I escape danger. 10% of the time, I loose something of value.
C's are super innovative in their teachings, but here, on the forum, we learn
not about exceptionnalism, but about "Normal humans": Family, love. All the specs of "elsimbolo" attract my attention because it's "exceptionnal".
Sometimes, this is a bait. A trap. Sometimes.
So - you see - I have a way and I am cautious because the danger comes from a specific place. Most of the time. The place is familiar. When it feels and smell "oh that familiar STS place..."... The kidding STS... "Ha! It's them!". It's all the time the same, it never changes. The "STS house" has a "smell".
And so, I wanted to tell you just to watch out. The Ummo spec definitely represents an opening. This means that if you study this material, I feel that it is safe, to assume, that
you will in any case have false elements popping up. It cannot be else. At best it's in the chapter "Ummo" (if there is such a chapter) - or around. Look for the conclusions based on Ummo: what is it that the author discovers, "thanks to Ummo"? You may then put all of the conclusions under the umbrella "probably wrong to accept that" - "must specifically be cautious at this". We could study those materials but we need to be ready. The mind needs to know that there will be things that are not okay.