Shootings and Mass Shootings
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I saw some of the backlash,
I think most people are reacting violently against it because it holds a mirror into their own hypocrisy. The key to the tweet was the “spectacle” portion.
We emotionally react to spectacle more than data was his point, because absolutely one could feel the pain of 34 families and sympathize with their suffering. His point being, what about the other hundreds of families? Not only the day of the shooting but everyday prior and everyday since.
And people don’t like that inconsistency and thus lash out against him, but it’s true. And so the response is, but it’s gun violence and it was a planned attack and so on and so forth. Which is absolutely true, that’s why it’s being discussed everywhere.
But the point being you cannot have a reasonable and rational conversation about a real problem if you’re emotionally reacting to a political agenda being presented to you in a certain way. NDGT points this out and I think that’s helpful.
Why? Because people are calling the president a terrorist, and a white supremacist, and are polarizing themselves even further. Because they’ve been told for three years that this is all his fault, and if you’re shocked and prone to suggestion you will accept it without question and once that becomes part of your worldview... you’re no different than a concentration camp guard who thought they needed to exterminate the Jewish population because all their troubles were their fault.
I know at first and on the surface it looks like he’s being cold and apathetic simply going “well yeah that sucks but what about this?”. But the value of his tweet I think lies deeper, and I’m not surprised to see Twitter presenting it in such a bad light.
Sadly, he’s a public figure and they’ll make him retract it. If he’s hoping to have a career, and that’s ever scarier! We live with a sensor where all public opinion has to be homogenous, which means all public discourse is being flattened to be be singular and any form of dissent is quieted and demonized and insulted.
These are not good times.
Whether this was an organic attack of a lone nut, or a coordinated attack with a purpose by an intelligence agency, the fruits of the event itself are further division and violent polarization and the ones controlling the public discourse seem to be quite content with “extermination” of everything that disagrees with their point, and emotionally reacting to these events only makes whatever rational resistance the that idea less and less powerful. And from here to madness is a tiny step.
I hope the above makes sense, and I hope I don’t sound too catastrophic, but it’s how things seem to me at least.
I think that's a great question and I'm not entire convinced either way. The mug shot and the senior year high school photos are three years apart. Quite a bit of change and appearance can happen to a pubescent young man in three years especially if they are abusing hard drugs. One need only google 'before and after meth' photos to see the degree of possible change.
From the two photos I see that the profiles of the chin, lips, nose, eyebrows all look quite similar in both photos, that even that the right ear hangs higher than the left and, that the right side of his face seems longer and puffier than the left. So I see some similarities but how would we really know?
Another black tee shirt guy, and he does look a bit similar to the El Paso shooter(s). Ohio Shooter Was a Radical Leftist Who Supported Elizabeth Warren
Ohio Shooter Was a Radical Leftist Who Supported Elizabeth Warren
Media quiet on Dayton gunman’s motive.
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While the media has been quick to blame President Trump for the mass shooting in El Paso, they are noticeably quieter about the mass shooter in Ohio, who described him self as a “socialist,” praised Antifa and expressed support for Elizabeth Warren.
Before it was suspended last night, Connor Betts’ Twitter feed made it clear that he was a left-wing fringe extremist. Amongst other things, Betts;
– Described himself as a “leftist”
– Tweeted “I want socialism”.
– Tweeted “Warren I’d happily vote for”.
– Retweeted Bernie Sanders numerous times.
– Retweeted Antifa accounts numerous times.
– Tweeted “kill every fascist”.
– Tweeted “burn the world to the ground to start the new one”.
– Repeatedly tweeted “hail Satan”.
– Expressed praise and sympathy for the Antifa terrorist who attempted to firebomb an ICE facility, calling him a “martyr”.
– Used Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s “concentration camp” rhetoric.
– Tweeted “vote blue for gods sake”.
– Wore a patch that said “Against All Gods”.
– Expressed support for the “punch a Nazi” meme.
– Retweeted Right Wing Watch’s Jared Holt.
– Advocated for gun control.
Chris Menahan has archived all of this and more right here.
Does any of this mean Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders are to blame for the actions of one sick individual. No. But that same courtesy has to be extended to President Trump.
America saw two tragic mass shootings this weekend. One by a right-wing extremist and one by a left-wing extremist.
However, only the motive of the right-wing extremist is being discussed by the media.
Only one side of the political spectrum immediately exploited the bloodshed to push their agenda, and that wasn’t President Trump or his supporters.
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In his Twitter profile, Connor Betts, the 24-year-old suspected gunman in the Dayton mass shooting, wrote, "he/him / anime fan
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I think it's an idiotic thing to say and he has no valid point. In most of the cases he cites, not only was the death accidental, but there were likely several people attempting to HELP the person survive. The mass shootings stand in complete contrast to that and are therefore in no way comparable. Worse still, I reckon his tweet was motivated by the delusional idea that there should be no suffering at all in society, that any suffering is wrong and we should all get together to stamp it out. Typical radical lefty ideology.
Even though Beto is a complete douchebag, I don't think there's anything completely abnormal in his grinning. As we've seen in other similar public appearances after horrible events, the 'laughing' is a quite typical stress reaction. In his case, it could of course be a sign of something else (he might be a psychopath), but I'm just saying that we shouldn't draw hasty conclusions every time someone 'laughs' under tremendous stress. And, I think that a 'well trained' psychopath would do a much more convincing performance of mourning, with crying and all.
Yes, mass shooting is an act of evil when taking into account moral and spiritual dimension, and there's no point making a comparison with more neutral events like flu deaths, just like it wouldn't make any sense to compare concentration camp deaths to some major epidemic with similar death tolls etc.
This kind of oversimplification is utilitarianism at it's worst, -which is quite reprehensible philosophy in my opinion- and it doesn't surprise that these materialistic science people like to downplay the perception of emotions (and thus the moral/spiritual dimension).
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Boy thrown from London’s Tate Modern is French tourist visiting UK
Visitors walk by a sign that explains that the viewing level is closed in the Tate Modern gallery in central London on August 5, 2019. (AFP)
August 05, 2019 - LONDON: A six-year-old boy thrown from a tenth-floor viewing platform at London's Tate Modern gallery is a French National who was visiting the British Capital with his family, police said Monday.
The boy is no longer in a life-threatening condition, according to London’s Metropolitan Police, who appealed for further witnesses to the Sunday afternoon incident to come forward.
A 17-year-old boy who was initially detained by members of the public on the tenth-floor platform and then arrested by officers, remains in custody on suspicion of attempted murder.
“This is being treated as an isolated event with no distinct or apparent motive,” senior investigating officer DCI John Massey said in a statement, adding there was no known link between the victim and the teen arrested.
He said the victim was now in “a stable, but critical condition in hospital with his family.”
Visitors walk by a sign that explains that the viewing level is closed in the Tate Modern gallery in central London on August 5, 2019. (AFP)
August 05, 2019 - LONDON: A six-year-old boy thrown from a tenth-floor viewing platform at London's Tate Modern gallery is a French National who was visiting the British Capital with his family, police said Monday.
The boy is no longer in a life-threatening condition, according to London’s Metropolitan Police, who appealed for further witnesses to the Sunday afternoon incident to come forward.
A 17-year-old boy who was initially detained by members of the public on the tenth-floor platform and then arrested by officers, remains in custody on suspicion of attempted murder.
“This is being treated as an isolated event with no distinct or apparent motive,” senior investigating officer DCI John Massey said in a statement, adding there was no known link between the victim and the teen arrested.
He said the victim was now in “a stable, but critical condition in hospital with his family.”
As a side note, 8chan, where the El Paso shooter allegedly posted his 'manifesto' has been deplatformed twice already. First, from the original service provider, and just a moment ago from the next one where it just had been migrated (because someone alerted them, complaining). If you want the latest, you can check out the 8chan 'coder' on Twitter, CodeMonkeyZ.
Not that it matters that much, I'm just curious to see if the 'teenage coders' can win this one...
Not that it matters that much, I'm just curious to see if the 'teenage coders' can win this one...
8chan - a far-right web forum used to celebrate mass shootings and spread suspects' so-called “manifestos” has been forced offline after losing its cyber-security protectionhttps://t.co/qEOplcqk1v pic.twitter.com/awmqrIQJeH
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) August 5, 2019
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Trump wants 'strong background checks' for gun users
Flowers and signs at a makeshift memorial after the shooting that left 21 people dead at the Cielo Vista Mall WalMart in El Paso, Texas,. (AFP)
WASHINGTON: August 5, 2019 - President Donald Trump on Monday condemned weekend shootings in Texas and Ohio as “barbaric” attacks and crimes “against all humanity” as he called for bipartisan cooperation to strengthen the nation’s gun laws.
Trump said he wants legislation providing “strong background checks” for gun users, but he provided scant details and has reneged on previous promises after mass shootings. “We vow to act with urgent resolve,” Trump said Monday.
Trump spoke Monday from the White House about shootings that left 31 dead and dozens wounded. He suggested early on Twitter that a background check bill could be paired with his long-sought effort to toughen the nation’s immigration system.
After other mass shootings he called for strengthening the federal background check system, and in 2018 he signed legislation to increase federal agency data sharing into the system. But he has resisted Democratic calls to toughen other gun control laws.
Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings
The country has about 2 million privately owned guns in a nation of 8.3 million people. In 2016, the country had 47 attempted homicides with firearms. The country's overall murder rate is near zero.
The National Rifle Association often points to Switzerland to argue that more rules on gun ownership aren't necessary. In 2016, the NRA said on its blog that the European country had one of the lowest murder rates in the world while still having millions of privately owned guns and a few hunting weapons that don't even require a permit.
But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.
Business Insider took a look at the country's past with guns to see why it has lower rates of gun violence than the US, where gun death rates are now at their highest in more than 20 years.
Switzerland is obsessed with getting shooting right. Every year, it holds a shooting contest for kids aged 13 to 17.
Wikimedia Creative Commons
Zurich's Knabenschiessen is a traditional annual festival that dates back to the 1600s. Though the word roughly translates to "boys shooting" and the competition used to be only boys, teenage girls have been allowed in since 1991.
Kids in the country flock to the competition every September to compete in target shooting using Swiss army service rifles. They're proud to show off how well they can shoot.
Accuracy is prized above all else, and a Schutzenkonig — a king or queen of marksmen — is crowned.
Having an armed citizenry helped keep the Swiss neutral for more than 200 years.
Keystone/Getty Images
The Swiss stance is one of "armed neutrality."
Switzerland hasn't taken part in any international armed conflict since 1815, but some Swiss soldiers help with peacekeeping missions around the world. Many Swiss see gun ownership as part of a patriotic duty to protect their homeland.
Most Swiss men are required to learn how to use a gun.
REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
Unlike the US, Switzerland has mandatory military service for men. All men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" are given a pistol or a rifle and trained.
After they've finished their service, the men can typically buy and keep their service weapons, but they have to get a permit for them. In recent years, the Swiss government has voted to reduce the size of the country's armed forces.
Switzerland is a bit like a well-designed fort.
Arnd Wiegmann/Reuters
Switzerland's borders are basically designed to blow up on command, with at least 3,000 demolition points on bridges, roads, rails, and tunnels around the landlocked European country.
John McPhee put it this way in his book "La Place de la Concorde Suisse": "Near the German border of Switzerland, every railroad and highway tunnel has been prepared to pinch shut explosively. Nearby mountains have been made so porous that whole divisions can fit inside them."
Roughly a quarter of the gun-toting Swiss use their weapons for military or police duty.
AP/K
In 2000, more than 25% of Swiss gun owners said they kept their weapon for military or police duty, while less than 5% of Americans said the same.
In addition to the militia's arms, the country has about 2 million privately owned guns — a figure that has been plummeting over the past decade.
The Swiss government has estimated that about half of the privately owned guns in the country are former service rifles. But there are signs the Swiss gun-to-human ratio is dwindling.
In 2007, the Small Arms Survey found that Switzerland had the third-highest ratio of civilian firearms per 100 residents (46), outdone by only the US (89) and Yemen (55).
But it seems that figure has dropped over the past decade. It's now estimated that there's about one civilian gun for every three Swiss people.
Gun sellers follow strict licensing procedures.
Swiss authorities decide on a local level whether to give people gun permits. They also keep a log of everyone who owns a gun in their region, known as a canton, though hunting rifles and some semiautomatic long arms are exempt from the permit requirement.
But cantonal police don't take their duty dolling out gun licenses lightly. They might consult a psychiatrist or talk with authorities in other cantons where a prospective gun buyer has lived before to vet the person.
Swiss laws are designed to prevent anyone who's violent or incompetent from owning a gun.
Sam Greenwood/Getty Images
People who've been convicted of a crime or have an alcohol or drug addiction aren't allowed to buy guns in Switzerland.
The law also states that anyone who "expresses a violent or dangerous attitude" won't be permitted to own a gun.
Gun owners who want to carry their weapon for "defensive purposes" also have to prove they can properly load, unload, and shoot their weapon and must pass a test to get a license.
Switzerland is also one of the richest, healthiest, and, by some measures, happiest countries in the world.
Laurence Griffiths/Getty Images
Switzerland was ranked sixth in the UN's 2019 World Happiness Report.
The Swiss have been consistently near the top of this list. In 2017, when Switzerland was ranked fourth overall among nations, the report authors noted that the country tends to do well on "all the main factors found to support happiness: caring, freedom, generosity, honesty, health, income and good governance."
Meanwhile, according to the report, happiness has taken a dive over the past decade in the US. The report authors cite "declining social support and increased corruption," as well as addiction and depression for the fall.
But the Swiss aren't perfect when it comes to guns.
Harold Cunningham/Getty Images
Switzerland still has one of the highest rates of gun violence in Europe, and most gun deaths in the country are suicides.
Around the world, stronger gun laws have been linked to fewer gun deaths. That has been the case in Switzerland too.
REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
After hundreds of years of letting local cantons determine gun rules, Switzerland passed its first federal regulations on guns in 1999, after the country's crime rate increased during the 1990s.
Since then, more provisions have been added to keep the country on par with EU gun laws, and gun deaths, including suicides, have continued to drop.
As of 2015, the Swiss estimated that only about 11% of citizens kept their military-issued gun at home.
Most people aren't allowed to carry their guns around in Switzerland.
REUTERS
Concealed-carry permits are tough to get in Switzerland, and most people who aren't security workers or police officers don't have one.
"We have guns at home, but they are kept for peaceful purposes," Martin Killias, a professor of criminology at Zurich University, told the BBC in 2013. "There is no point taking the gun out of your home in Switzerland because it is illegal to carry a gun in the street."
That's mostly true. Hunters and sports shooters are allowed to transport their guns only from their home to the firing range — they can't just stop off for coffee with their rifle.
And guns cannot be loaded during transport to prevent them from accidentally firing in a place like Starbucks — something that has happened in the US at least twice.
Flowers and signs at a makeshift memorial after the shooting that left 21 people dead at the Cielo Vista Mall WalMart in El Paso, Texas,. (AFP)
WASHINGTON: August 5, 2019 - President Donald Trump on Monday condemned weekend shootings in Texas and Ohio as “barbaric” attacks and crimes “against all humanity” as he called for bipartisan cooperation to strengthen the nation’s gun laws.
Trump said he wants legislation providing “strong background checks” for gun users, but he provided scant details and has reneged on previous promises after mass shootings. “We vow to act with urgent resolve,” Trump said Monday.
Trump spoke Monday from the White House about shootings that left 31 dead and dozens wounded. He suggested early on Twitter that a background check bill could be paired with his long-sought effort to toughen the nation’s immigration system.
After other mass shootings he called for strengthening the federal background check system, and in 2018 he signed legislation to increase federal agency data sharing into the system. But he has resisted Democratic calls to toughen other gun control laws.
Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings
- Switzerland hasn't had a mass shooting in 18 years.
- In the US, there is almost one every day.
- The Swiss have strict rules for who can get a gun, and take firearm training very seriously.
- Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.
The country has about 2 million privately owned guns in a nation of 8.3 million people. In 2016, the country had 47 attempted homicides with firearms. The country's overall murder rate is near zero.
The National Rifle Association often points to Switzerland to argue that more rules on gun ownership aren't necessary. In 2016, the NRA said on its blog that the European country had one of the lowest murder rates in the world while still having millions of privately owned guns and a few hunting weapons that don't even require a permit.
But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.
Business Insider took a look at the country's past with guns to see why it has lower rates of gun violence than the US, where gun death rates are now at their highest in more than 20 years.
Switzerland is obsessed with getting shooting right. Every year, it holds a shooting contest for kids aged 13 to 17.
Wikimedia Creative Commons
Zurich's Knabenschiessen is a traditional annual festival that dates back to the 1600s. Though the word roughly translates to "boys shooting" and the competition used to be only boys, teenage girls have been allowed in since 1991.
Kids in the country flock to the competition every September to compete in target shooting using Swiss army service rifles. They're proud to show off how well they can shoot.
Accuracy is prized above all else, and a Schutzenkonig — a king or queen of marksmen — is crowned.
Having an armed citizenry helped keep the Swiss neutral for more than 200 years.
Keystone/Getty Images
The Swiss stance is one of "armed neutrality."
Switzerland hasn't taken part in any international armed conflict since 1815, but some Swiss soldiers help with peacekeeping missions around the world. Many Swiss see gun ownership as part of a patriotic duty to protect their homeland.
Most Swiss men are required to learn how to use a gun.
REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
Unlike the US, Switzerland has mandatory military service for men. All men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" are given a pistol or a rifle and trained.
After they've finished their service, the men can typically buy and keep their service weapons, but they have to get a permit for them. In recent years, the Swiss government has voted to reduce the size of the country's armed forces.
Switzerland is a bit like a well-designed fort.
Arnd Wiegmann/Reuters
Switzerland's borders are basically designed to blow up on command, with at least 3,000 demolition points on bridges, roads, rails, and tunnels around the landlocked European country.
John McPhee put it this way in his book "La Place de la Concorde Suisse": "Near the German border of Switzerland, every railroad and highway tunnel has been prepared to pinch shut explosively. Nearby mountains have been made so porous that whole divisions can fit inside them."
Roughly a quarter of the gun-toting Swiss use their weapons for military or police duty.
AP/K
In 2000, more than 25% of Swiss gun owners said they kept their weapon for military or police duty, while less than 5% of Americans said the same.
In addition to the militia's arms, the country has about 2 million privately owned guns — a figure that has been plummeting over the past decade.
The Swiss government has estimated that about half of the privately owned guns in the country are former service rifles. But there are signs the Swiss gun-to-human ratio is dwindling.
In 2007, the Small Arms Survey found that Switzerland had the third-highest ratio of civilian firearms per 100 residents (46), outdone by only the US (89) and Yemen (55).
But it seems that figure has dropped over the past decade. It's now estimated that there's about one civilian gun for every three Swiss people.
Gun sellers follow strict licensing procedures.
Swiss authorities decide on a local level whether to give people gun permits. They also keep a log of everyone who owns a gun in their region, known as a canton, though hunting rifles and some semiautomatic long arms are exempt from the permit requirement.
But cantonal police don't take their duty dolling out gun licenses lightly. They might consult a psychiatrist or talk with authorities in other cantons where a prospective gun buyer has lived before to vet the person.
Swiss laws are designed to prevent anyone who's violent or incompetent from owning a gun.
Sam Greenwood/Getty Images
People who've been convicted of a crime or have an alcohol or drug addiction aren't allowed to buy guns in Switzerland.
The law also states that anyone who "expresses a violent or dangerous attitude" won't be permitted to own a gun.
Gun owners who want to carry their weapon for "defensive purposes" also have to prove they can properly load, unload, and shoot their weapon and must pass a test to get a license.
Switzerland is also one of the richest, healthiest, and, by some measures, happiest countries in the world.
Laurence Griffiths/Getty Images
Switzerland was ranked sixth in the UN's 2019 World Happiness Report.
The Swiss have been consistently near the top of this list. In 2017, when Switzerland was ranked fourth overall among nations, the report authors noted that the country tends to do well on "all the main factors found to support happiness: caring, freedom, generosity, honesty, health, income and good governance."
Meanwhile, according to the report, happiness has taken a dive over the past decade in the US. The report authors cite "declining social support and increased corruption," as well as addiction and depression for the fall.
But the Swiss aren't perfect when it comes to guns.
Harold Cunningham/Getty Images
Switzerland still has one of the highest rates of gun violence in Europe, and most gun deaths in the country are suicides.
Around the world, stronger gun laws have been linked to fewer gun deaths. That has been the case in Switzerland too.
REUTERS/Denis Balibouse
After hundreds of years of letting local cantons determine gun rules, Switzerland passed its first federal regulations on guns in 1999, after the country's crime rate increased during the 1990s.
Since then, more provisions have been added to keep the country on par with EU gun laws, and gun deaths, including suicides, have continued to drop.
As of 2015, the Swiss estimated that only about 11% of citizens kept their military-issued gun at home.
Most people aren't allowed to carry their guns around in Switzerland.
REUTERS
Concealed-carry permits are tough to get in Switzerland, and most people who aren't security workers or police officers don't have one.
"We have guns at home, but they are kept for peaceful purposes," Martin Killias, a professor of criminology at Zurich University, told the BBC in 2013. "There is no point taking the gun out of your home in Switzerland because it is illegal to carry a gun in the street."
That's mostly true. Hunters and sports shooters are allowed to transport their guns only from their home to the firing range — they can't just stop off for coffee with their rifle.
And guns cannot be loaded during transport to prevent them from accidentally firing in a place like Starbucks — something that has happened in the US at least twice.
The two pics (the glasses selfie and the mugshot) really don't look like the same person to me. But like you, I do see some similarities. I played around a bit with some of the images in GIMP to see if that might help. So far, I used three pictures: the mugshot, the facebook selfie, and this one. For the mugshot, there are at least 2 versions going around, as far as I can tell. The best resolution version I could find was actually a photo of the printed out photo on a table:
NEW: El Paso shooting suspect mug shot just released, Patrick Crusius, 21. pic.twitter.com/o3VMTAAOt0
— Daniel Borunda (@BorundaDaniel) August 4, 2019
So I deskewed that image to get this first:
The facebook pic is a selfie, so it's most likely flipped - i.e. you're seeing his left ear, not his right. I flipped that one.
Then resized the others to clip out parts for comparison:
Each pic is taken from a slightly different angle, but they're close enough to compare, IMO. The hardest to compare are the eyes, because in the pic with glasses you can tell they're pretty thick, making the eyes smaller and distorted. Ears, nose, hairline (sloping down from left to right), hairline next to left eye, are all similar. Didn't include the mouth, but the full lips are similar in all photos, though each one has a different expression. The biggest difference is the shape of the face in the selfie. Since it's a selfie, the lens and distance might account for that, though:
Also found this one today:
FWIW!
Here is Mike Adams take (the Health Ranger). I haven't had a chance to watch his video yet
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A possible data point that may indicate some programming, at least for the El Paso shooter:
POLICE: The shooter drove 10-11 hours to El Paso, got lost in a neighborhood. The shooter told investigators he chose WalMart because he was hungry. Police believe he walked out of the store and then returned shooting. He hasn’t shown remorse, instead shown shock and confusion
— Brett Buffington (@BBuffingtonNews) August 5, 2019
I highly recommend Mike Adams video. He explains how the corrupt arm of the FBI, sets up theses false flag, mass shooting events. How a "scape goat" is threatened, bribed or tricked into being the fall guy. Their social media and browser profiles are fabricated and often a manifesto is presented to the public. Describes several incidents involving FBI setups. I don't know how he knows all these things. He was in the military, so something with that maybe.
He speaks about the eye witnesses, media and police reports all reporting multiple shooters at the beginning and how that was narrowed to the lone gunman, as usual. All very informative.
He's on Brighteon.com now being permanently banned from YouTube and is excited about this new, free speech, alternative video site. I think its exciting too !! I looked through YouTube to see if anyone posted personal video of the shooting etc. and there isn't anything there as in the past, not surprising. So checking into the alternative sites may come up with more information and its good to support them as well. Touche YouTube!
Towards the end he speaks about transgender people being the target of violence. A group has been formed called Pink Pistils teaching how to use a gun for self defense. Gets into the gun issues.
Please ignore the fact, Mike is wearing a black tee shirt. I don't think it has any significance in this case.
Brighteon.com/6ce05594-5f11-440f-b71f-232e0cfa168c
He speaks about the eye witnesses, media and police reports all reporting multiple shooters at the beginning and how that was narrowed to the lone gunman, as usual. All very informative.
He's on Brighteon.com now being permanently banned from YouTube and is excited about this new, free speech, alternative video site. I think its exciting too !! I looked through YouTube to see if anyone posted personal video of the shooting etc. and there isn't anything there as in the past, not surprising. So checking into the alternative sites may come up with more information and its good to support them as well. Touche YouTube!
Towards the end he speaks about transgender people being the target of violence. A group has been formed called Pink Pistils teaching how to use a gun for self defense. Gets into the gun issues.
Please ignore the fact, Mike is wearing a black tee shirt. I don't think it has any significance in this case.
Brighteon.com/6ce05594-5f11-440f-b71f-232e0cfa168c
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