Should I get rid of crystals?

[CeLegacy]

So I wanted to get them for a while because I'd read about it from Spirit Science, and currently I don't believe they're doing me good for my growth.
"It may be for reasons that will help learn and grow." were words I just picked up from another post on the forum, but idk. What should I do? Do I need them? I'm less than a week in to the EE program and I feel they frequency of the crystals aren't helping me towards my goal as a person nor my EE. Has anyone had experience with these? Was it my soul that chose these exact crystals? And if so, why?

Thank you. For the mean time I won't take them around with me. I've really gotta improve my belly breathing.

 

[CeLegacy]

Christine !

Hopefully. There is always room for error. Remember, free will is the most important law of
consciousness in creation.

This just helped big time! I'll do what I will do. So long as I'm improving my breathing, I'll be fine.

 

[CeLegacy]

I got rid of them.

 

[Laura]

I like crystals. If you don't like the energy of them, put them in distilled water in a bowl in the sun for a few hours and then bring them back inside.

 

[lilyalic]

I recently bought an Amethyst crystal (Very small) and put it in a water of distilled water next to my bed. Every night before sleep I listen to the POTS and direct my energy towards the crystal, sometimes it actually feels like the crystal is giving something back, and I fall asleep smiling!

In Laura's Knowledge & Being video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvoAioRlAS4
She talks about crystals being able to harness certain energies...
I took that idea, of imagining sitting with a friend and saying "Thank god it is all sorted! I'm so happy now" etc, after doing this for a week or so with the crystal, I actually got a new job. I'm not sure how much that contributed, but there's a result. :)

I also read that you can clean your crystals energy with incense stick smoke, or a smudge stick.

 

[CeLegacy]

I recently bought an Amethyst crystal (Very small) and put it in a water of distilled water next to my bed. Every night before sleep I listen to the POTS and direct my energy towards the crystal, sometimes it actually feels like the crystal is giving something back, and I fall asleep smiling!

In Laura's Knowledge & Being video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvoAioRlAS4
She talks about crystals being able to harness certain energies...
I took that idea, of imagining sitting with a friend and saying "Thank god it is all sorted! I'm so happy now" etc, after doing this for a week or so with the crystal, I actually got a new job. I'm not sure how much that contributed, but there's a result. :)

I also read that you can clean your crystals energy with incense stick smoke, or a smudge stick.

I like crystals. If you don't like the energy of them, put them in distilled water in a bowl in the sun for a few hours and then bring them back inside.

I felt like the energy was too feminine and it wasn't really helping me

 

[CeLegacy]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

 

[whitecoast]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

I've never heard of this distinction before... is there an objective difference between masculine and feminine crystals, or is it just how they subjectively feel or look to you? What do you mean by your EE practice being "one-sided"? It's pretty normal to feel small distractions when we hunker down to do EE when building the practice initially, for what it's worth. Avoiding things or surroundings that distract you can be a good step. Later on you could try to do belly breathing even in places that can distract you as well, to improve concentration. :)

 

[Laura]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

I think you are way too imaginative, seriously lacking in accurate information, and also lack control of yourself.

 

[zak]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

Hi CeLegacy, from the glossary about freewill:

The question of free will has many levels. At the level of the universe, we could say that the only reason why anything exists is free will. The creative will of the All mediates between the thought centers of being and non-being, creating a dance of all possible forms.

As the initial impulse of creative will descends from the unconditioned realms of creation towards materiality, it gets diluted, more mechanical and determined at each level.

Tradition, as transmitted by Gurdjieff and Mouravieff, even as reflected in the Bible, suggests that the logos or creative will of the Absolute is the impulse behind all which is. The Cassiopaeans and Ra define free will as the first universal principle.

Strict determinists are the only ones who completely deny free will.

The concept of free will becomes much more ambiguous when applied at the human level. We could postulate that anything with some degree of consciousness somehow retains some spark of the uncreated, primordial free will. If this were not so, we could not define concepts of responsibility, which after all are central to any ethics. For this reason, pretty much all religious systems recognize some degree of free will, no matter how they otherwise may tend to restrict this.

Gurdjieff's description of the default state of man is nearly behavioristic, involving next to no free will. Still, Gurdjieff's whole work strives towards opening a WINDOW through which this free will might manifest. In this sense, Gurdjieff is diametrically and fundamentally opposed to any deterministic school of thought.

The greatest problem for manifested free will at the human level is that man is not one: One I wills, another does not, a third is not even aware of the whole question.

In Life Is Only Real Then When I Am, Gurdjieff introduces the dictum 'I Am, I Can, I Wish.' From the book:

'Only such a man, when he consciously says "I am"-he really is; "I can"-he really can; "I wish"-he really wishes. When "I wish"-I feel with my whole being that I wish, and can wish. This does not mean that I want, that I need, that I like or, lastly, that I desire. No. "I wish." I never like, never want, I do not desire anything and I do not need anything-all this is slavery; if "I wish" something, I must like it, even if I do not like it. I can wish to like it, because "I can." I wish-I feel with my whole body that I wish. I wish-because I can wish.' [End quote]

Free will has nothing to do with desires, it is unconditioned, it is for its own sake, yet it is not arbitrary or random, it may have a DIRECTION which is a reason unto itself. The free will possible to man in this sense is far from the possibility of arbitrary indulgence which is often the only thing modern Western discourse understands with freedom.
glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=333&lsel=F

 

[Ruth]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

It sounds like you have an energy blockage or an imbalance and your intuition is trying to tell you about it, and you have focused on crystals as a reason or an answer. It aint necessarily so. I wouldn't get rid of them, just move them somewhere else after cleansing them. 'Ask' the universe to elaborate on the problem, sometimes it requires a bit of time to figure it out. And, the answer isn't always obvious, and it may not be the crystals. And keep doing what you're doing with the EE, maybe some meditation might help too. Sometimes we make a mistake when we think there is only one answer to a problem.

 

[CeLegacy]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

It sounds like you have an energy blockage or an imbalance and your intuition is trying to tell you about it, and you have focused on crystals as a reason or an answer. It aint necessarily so. I wouldn't get rid of them, just move them somewhere else after cleansing them. 'Ask' the universe to elaborate on the problem, sometimes it requires a bit of time to figure it out. And, the answer isn't always obvious, and it may not be the crystals. And keep doing what you're doing with the EE, maybe some meditation might help too. Sometimes we make a mistake when we think there is only one answer to a problem.

They're already gone... But I'll ask the universe to elaborate on problems

 

[Laura]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals. I asked the amethyst crystal which ones I should keep and it went down towards the masuline ones and went away from the feminine ones. Ultimately I used free will and left them somewhere outside near a road because it was making it hard for me to make choices. If I buy crystals again it'd be masculine ones

It sounds like you have an energy blockage or an imbalance and your intuition is trying to tell you about it, and you have focused on crystals as a reason or an answer. It aint necessarily so. I wouldn't get rid of them, just move them somewhere else after cleansing them. 'Ask' the universe to elaborate on the problem, sometimes it requires a bit of time to figure it out. And, the answer isn't always obvious, and it may not be the crystals. And keep doing what you're doing with the EE, maybe some meditation might help too. Sometimes we make a mistake when we think there is only one answer to a problem.

They're already gone... But I'll ask the universe to elaborate on problems

Lotsa luck. You'll need it.

 

[Buddy]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals... [...]
...because it was making it hard for me to make choices.

Any reason why you couldn't just share a precise description of the problem with your breathing practice and ask for advice? Somebody on here may have already had a similar issue and solved it.


~Edit: I see that you're asking now on the EE thread. Hope that helps you.

 

[CeLegacy]

Last night I was trying to improve belly breathing and my vagal nerves but it was too one sided because of the crystals... [...]
...because it was making it hard for me to make choices.

Any reason why you couldn't just share a precise description of the problem with your breathing practice and ask for advice? Somebody on here may have already had a similar issue and solved it.

I was trying to strengthen my vagal nerves but with the crystals the left vagus nerve was being more stimulated and the right barely and it felt very uncomfortable for me as a being