Silver goes ballistic and shakes the financial system

[nicklebleu]

I would be surprised if the silver spot went much below $50 (major resistance) - that would imply a gold/ silver ratio of over 100 (unless gold crashes, too). I wouldn’t mind, if it did, though … as the long-term setup is still sound.

Possible, but unlikely …

Just wonder if that is another attempt by the “big boys” to shake the weaker hands out of the market. If so, that would be AI Asian Guy producing a red flag … given that nobody knows who’s behind him.

 

[SummerLite]

Well, now we a have a plot twist from "Asian guy": warning of 67% decline over the next 3 weeks:

WHAT!!!!!! This sounds crazy. I can't see it happening.

Johnny Bravo [ a youtuber] also sees a good chance of the price going to around $35. He bases this on the charts. From what I've seen, he's largely accurate and extremely successful.

It's been pointed out that these printed prices for silver can also be manipulated very easily as well. If it goes down to $35 its possible dealers will stop selling for awhile knowing this is temporary and it will shoot up again. Also finding the silver to buy in a dip is getting harder to find. Everyone is selling out and new orders are being delayed.

 

[Cosmos]

The thing with silver is that it has had at least in the past not the best track record to yield returns or at the very least work against inflation, even long term. Especially if you compare it to the other big and more precious metal. And it also hasn’t such a long and good trackable track record over millennia. So, it wouldn’t surprise me if it defaults down again.

But things might be changing quite significantly in that regard now. How reliable that steep upward trend long term is I don’t know though. But there might be the possibility that the upward trend continues for now and the foreseeable future because of those changing circumstances.

One thing is certain though even if you don’t have in mind to get some good returns by investing in silver, it is probably a pretty good idea to invest at least a bit in it now and the foreseeable future, in case greater inflation hits or fiat money is going to crash. Better safe than sorry.

 

[nicklebleu]

But things might be changing quite significantly in that regard now. How reliable that steep upward trend long term is I don’t know though. But there might be the possibility that the upward trend continues for now and the foreseeable future because of those changing circumstances.

What is different now - and unprecedented - is the mismatch between supply and demand. There has been a structural deficit for 5 years in a row, to the tune of around 150M toz per annum (as compared to annual production of around 850M toz). That structural deficit is unlikely to change anytime soon (some predict even a growing mismatch in the future), as most of the silver (70%) is a byproduct from other mining (gold/ lead/ tin etc). Pure silver mines are relatively few. So these mining corporations are unable (or unwilling) to ramp up production in a meaningful way unless the other metals follow suit.

Even if silver went to USD200/toz the supply would not increase much, at least in the short term. Mining takes a long time to develop (5-10 years) and is very capital intensive. There is also a significant geographic risk, as most silver reserves are in Central and South America.

Also don’t forget that silver is the most heavily manipulated commodity in the market - by a long stretch, and that seems to come to an end.

In my view the silver boom will be a multi-year affair, albeit with massive volatility/ wild swings up and down, that will test everyone’s nerves that is invested in this space.

 

[Brewer]

I bought a gold coin during the Christmas season from a reliable company and today, I received this e-mail :

I'm glad I did my buying some years ago, here's hoping it's soon in your hands. I heard that the Cs said that stacking is 3D but would it hurt to ask the location of some long lost loot in an alpine lake?
A teen found a gold bar in an alpine lake back in 2016, she handed it in and was allowed to keep it.

The German teenager, from Essen, was on holiday in the picturesque town of Schönau am Königsee when she made the discovery in August.
She saw the 500g (17.6-ounce) ingot around six feet below the water’s surface in August and handed it in to police.
The incredible find became a global news story, with speculation over whether it could be “Nazi gold” or buried loot from a robbery.
The Berchtesgadener Anzeiger newspaper reported that experts swiftly confirmed that the gold bullion was not from the Third Reich but found “no concrete evidence of origin or ownership”.
But six months on, no genuine owner has come forward to claim the bar, believed to be worth around €16,000 (12,500), meaning its finder gets to keep it.

Any harm in asking?

 

[Cosmos]

In my view the silver boom will be a multi-year affair, albeit with massive volatility/ wild swings up and down, that will test everyone’s nerves that is invested in this space.

Well, when you approach something like silver by long term consolidations (rather then short term ideas of “gains“), looking/planning/thinking as far as ahead in the future as possible (best in decades or longer), you are naturally less inclined to be infected by concerns and panicky ideas of up and down swings.

What also helps in that regard is that you try to buy silver on a regular basis rather then just once in one go and not worry at all about how much it costs at any given moment whey you buy it. In that way you can likely smooth out up and down trends a lot easier especially long term.

 

[Cosmos]

WHAT!!!!!! This sounds crazy. I can't see it happening.

Just on the face of it a relatively sudden and big price decrease of around 60% of silver isn’t something that hasn’t happened before, in fact, Silver has been known to be that spiky up and down in the past in relatively short time periods. Therefore I don’t think it is crazy at all to think/suspect/suggest that that might happen again. The future will show it and nobody knows for sure. And yes, for now I also think a continued price increase is more likely and probably at least for quite a while.

 

[SummerLite]

Neither of those are my source of information. Dictators do not win fair elections. Unless you think Stalin and Putin ruled by mandate perhaps you could cut me a little slack. Im not easily influenced and use every bit of common sense I have. Where do I go to get 'up to speed?"

Here is another source you may like and possibly in tune with your sensibilities. The Badlands channel has many podcasters that are well informed with geopolitical subjects and the USA. I just finished this one and it gets into Venezuela towards the end as well as Minnesota. Its very long but I enjoyed it all, touching on many subjects. Geopolitics with Ghost is a good one, good research.

 

[Scottie]

Well, now we a have a plot twist from "Asian guy": warning of 67% decline over the next 3 weeks:

Yes, and we're supposed to subscribe really fast because unlike other channels discussing silver, HIS channel doesn't only give bullish info... never mind the fact that all his recent vids were bullish on silver! I wonder if the AI-generated character's name is Satoshi Nakamoto??

At the end of the day, what he says may happen - after all, the ETFs and paper silver crowd (big banks) will no doubt try to crash the physical price so they can get away with their usual machinations.

BUT, there is still a lack of physical silver. There is still China refining 60% of it. And my guess is that long term, physical silver will still go up.

 

[dennis]

The PTB might try some demand reduction schemes in order to keep out speculators and average investors. They have declared it a strategic metal so the government could implement curbs and funnels to channel it to favored industries and holders. Think how war time rationing works. I would suspect some form of this would be tried once the paper price suppression effort is given up as futile.

That would be moving from price control to allocation control.

The work of issuing ration books and exchanging used stamps for certificates was handled by some 5,500 local ration boards of mostly volunteer workers selected by local officials. Many levels of rationing went into effect. Some items, such as sugar, were distributed evenly based on the number of people in a household. Other items, like gasoline or fuel oil, were rationed only to those who could justify a need.

Rationing in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

At the end of the day, what he says may happen - after all, the ETFs and paper silver crowd (big banks) will no doubt try to crash the physical price so they can get away with their usual machinations.

BUT, there is still a lack of physical silver. There is still China refining 60% of it. And my guess is that long term, physical silver will still go up.

True, and it may not be just gold and silver, but commodities in general that are likely going higher in the following years, as geopolitical tensions and chaotic climate keeps unfolding.

It makes sense that real physical assets and raw materials (gold and silver leading the way) will reveal their true value and the digital tech bubble will eventually burst and take down those heavily invested. Nothing will stop the current money printing until something breaks (at that point the CBDC's and a possible currency reset may enter the equation).

It's possible that a major capital rotation is just starting, similar to what happened ln the 70's and early 2000's, lasting for many years. The price of silver (like any asset) will have it's crashes/dips (and now there's no low-risk entry) but in the long run it's going up and currently seems to be looking for a new base level it will trade in the future, OSIT.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2005997069266264133

https://twitter.com/x/status/2006308001582330013

 

[dennis]

It looks like the things we study like pole shift, Earth rotation, etc may be happening in the financial sphere?

In the world of investing, change is the only constant. Markets rise and fall, sentiment shifts, and sometimes, in a big way, money moves. A lot of it.

One of the biggest clues that change is coming? Something called a capital rotation event.

https://goldsilver.com/industry-news/article/capital-rotation-a-rare-opportunity-for-precious-metal-investors/

 

[Aeneas]

Well, now we a have a plot twist from "Asian guy": warning of 67% decline over the next 3 weeks:

The video is posted on a Youtube channel called Bullion watch. That channel also had the "Asian guy" saying the the Swiss bank UBS had to liquidate 5.2 billion ounces of paper silver by some time in February. No other sources say that.

That made me think that those with paper contracts stand to loose billions and so it is in their interest to squash the price of silver as much as possible to offload their contracts with minimum loss. Would it really be so hard for them to make a deep fake of the "Asian guy", where he say the opposite of the "Asian guy" on twitter? If they by doing so, can sow doubt into people's minds and even push some of the small private holders into selling their physical silver then it would be worth billions. In other words, it would be damage control to control the narrative or at least maybe people confused about it.

At the end of the day, what he says may happen - after all, the ETFs and paper silver crowd (big banks) will no doubt try to crash the physical price so they can get away with their usual machinations.

There is certainly a huge push.

BUT, there is still a lack of physical silver. There is still China refining 60% of it. And my guess is that long term, physical silver will still go up.

That is the bottom line. The Chinese will not be pulled in by the narrative in the West of the silver price crashing, as they need it for producing stuff and they know the fundamentals, namely that there is a real lack of silver and that there has been a big deficit the last 5 years.

That doesn't mean that there won't be a lot of volatility but at the end of the day, silver is needed and there is a real rebalancing taking place. That the Trump administration now is going after the Fed chair and threatening him is only a sign of a very unstable financial environment.

Investing in silver and gold shouldn't be looked at for short term gains and shouldn't be done if there are real needs which needs to be taken care of. It is more long term insurance for when a rainy (or year) comes along and especially in the scenario where the financial system has collapsed and/or access to one's own bank account is not possible for x, y, z reasons.

 

[SummerLite]

Would it really be so hard for them to make a deep fake of the "Asian guy", where he say the opposite of the "Asian guy" on twitter? If they by doing so, can sow doubt into people's minds and even push some of the small private holders into selling their physical silver then it would be worth billions. In other words, it would be damage control to control the narrative or at least maybe people confused about it.

Or maybe this is the original AG guy showing manipulative motives. It would be wild to seed a silver crash narrative to get silver holders to panic and run to sell! Unfortunate for them. I don't have an interest in the financial world other then the real basics of living day to day. Most of the vocabulary and systems explained are more or less lost on me but I do understand the paper silver debacle. Maybe a crash will be fabricated sending people into freak out mode.

That doesn't mean that there won't be a lot of volatility but at the end of the day, silver is needed and there is a real rebalancing taking place. That the Trump administration now is going after the Fed chair and threatening him is only a sign of a very unstable financial environment.

Yes. What Trump is up to with the economy hasn't become clear yet. There are many opinions on this which are just opinions or outright misinformation so I wait to see what actually happens.

Investing in silver and gold shouldn't be looked at for short term gains and shouldn't be done if there are real needs which needs to be taken care of. It is more long term insurance for when a rainy (or year) comes along and especially in the scenario where the financial system has collapsed and/or access to one's own bank account is not possible for x, y, z reaso

This is my take on it. I don't sell. Exchanging the paper for real assets is the aim.

 

[Kosma]

In general, this AI campaign is interesting in itself. It's massive: this AG character appears in over hundred videos on at least 11 channels in less than a month.

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