Skin Moisturizer and HRT

[lilyalic]

Agreed. And it's started to affect men lately as well. There is absolutely wrong with being creative or wanting to have fun with the things you wear -or put on your face in this case- but the big brand slogans are usually something along the lines of "pretty yourself up", and not "get creative." It shapes people into thinking they are not beautiful unless they put chemicals on their face. Of course being pretty or beautiful is not everything (not to mention the fact that beauty is subjective), but most people don't think that way.

Yeah the influence for men is "muscles in suits" really... Beauty is subjective, but seems to be the likes of super models and celebrities that create the imagine for "beauty" now, not many people look under the skin, everything is at face value now.

 

[dankhiar]

@Thorn
I personally don't mind at all! The conversation took a great turn. I'm still glad you realized the real intensions for your actions. That is something not everyone can do. And knowing why we do things is the first step in working on how to change them (if that's what you want to do).

As the C's have said, it's not good to go against the grain. Of course that will have a different meaning for everyone, just like with everything. I personally don't even bother thinking about that kind of things. I do as I please as long as I know I'm not hurting anyone. Now, that is is a very STS statement, but well, I am. Just like you, and absolutely every other human being on this planet. I have always done things the way I feel come naturally to me and it has worked so far. I do trust my actions. I feel like the worst thing we can do is restrict ourselves in such ways. If I feel like wearing makeup today and being extra superficial, then that's what I'm gonna do. Bottling up the desire, in my opinion, is just like bottling up any other emotion. I rather just let them flow because I know they are temporary. In the end, what matters is what we know about ourselves.

 

[dankhiar]

@Flashgordonv
I'm sorry, I really didn't know there was more to HRT than the reason I decided to go on it for. I found that out after reading the very first few post replies on this thread. Just like I figured people would get it since I included 'MtF' in my original post. Bad on my part.

I'm not female, biologically. In fact, I'm still (and forever will be) male in my DNA structure (as far as I know). I'm a male-to-female*(MtF) transgendered person. That is, I'm male but I identify as female. I am a girl in my heart and mind, basically.

Reason I decided to go on HRT is because even though I know I will never be female, at least I can still look like one. But it's really more than just looks as hormones alter a lot of things that make us who we appear to be. To make things more clear, I will be lowering the testosterone level in my body and raising the estrogen level. I think that alone says a lot. I don't feel too comfortable with this amount of testosterone in my body, it feels disgusting and bothersome to me (and I know for a fact a lot of natal females would agree with me here), even tho my physical structure is that of a male. Or is it really? Apparently everything we are is enconded in our DNA so things are never that simple. But regardless, I'm sorry I created such misunderstanding.

 

[dankhiar]

@lilyalic
Muscles in suits have been a thing for a very long time already. In mainstream media that is still essentially the case. But I have noticed that slowly but surely, men, especially in the "high fashion" industry, are becoming more vain and feminine.

I personally have no problem with how masculine or feminine someone is regardless of their sex. It just becomes an issue with the involvement of "trending" it. Its already happening and it's always been like that. If you don't fit a cookie cutter definition of what normal (at the time; which changes with each generation) is, then you are frowned upon.

 

[mcb]

@Flashgordonv
I'm sorry, I really didn't know there was more to HRT than the reason I decided to go on it for. I found that out after reading the very first few post replies on this thread. Just like I figured people would get it since I included 'MtF' in my original post. Bad on my part...

I got it. Been there, done that. No T-shirt, but it worked.

...Reason I decided to go on HRT is because even though I know I will never be female, at least I can still look like one. But it's really more than just looks as hormones alter a lot of things that make us who we appear to be. To make things more clear, I will be lowering the testosterone level in my body and raising the estrogen level. I think that alone says a lot. I don't feel too comfortable with this amount of testosterone in my body, it feels disgusting and bothersome to me (and I know for a fact a lot of natal females would agree with me here), even tho my physical structure is that of a male. Or is it really? Apparently everything we are is enconded in our DNA so things are never that simple. But regardless, I'm sorry I created such misunderstanding.

We differ in that respect. My testosterone was low (female range) to begin with, although it shot up during transition and I had a "taste" of the stuff for a while. It didn't taste good, although it offered me a bit of physical endurance that I had never had. The increase was, unfortunately, caused by a serious medical condition. I have been post-op for over 7 years, and it is not an issue now. I do need to maintain a good diet because I no longer take a maintenance dose of estradiol -- that stuff nearly killed me too.

What I have learned about hormones since those days is pretty scary, as was my own experience with taking them. Do take care.

 

[Keyhole]

@Flashgordonv
I'm sorry, I really didn't know there was more to HRT than the reason I decided to go on it for. I found that out after reading the very first few post replies on this thread. Just like I figured people would get it since I included 'MtF' in my original post. Bad on my part...

I got it. Been there, done that. No T-shirt, but it worked.

...Reason I decided to go on HRT is because even though I know I will never be female, at least I can still look like one. But it's really more than just looks as hormones alter a lot of things that make us who we appear to be. To make things more clear, I will be lowering the testosterone level in my body and raising the estrogen level. I think that alone says a lot. I don't feel too comfortable with this amount of testosterone in my body, it feels disgusting and bothersome to me (and I know for a fact a lot of natal females would agree with me here), even tho my physical structure is that of a male. Or is it really? Apparently everything we are is enconded in our DNA so things are never that simple. But regardless, I'm sorry I created such misunderstanding.

We differ in that respect. My testosterone was low (female range) to begin with, although it shot up during transition and I had a "taste" of the stuff for a while. It didn't taste good, although it offered me a bit of physical endurance that I had never had. The increase was, unfortunately, caused by a serious medical condition. I have been post-op for over 7 years, and it is not an issue now. I do need to maintain a good diet because I no longer take a maintenance dose of estradiol -- that stuff nearly killed me too.

What I have learned about hormones since those days is pretty scary, as was my own experience with taking them. Do take care.

With the extra testosterone being produced in ketosis, does this have counteract the HRT?

 

[flashgordonv]

@Flashgordonv
I'm sorry, I really didn't know there was more to HRT than the reason I decided to go on it for. I found that out after reading the very first few post replies on this thread. Just like I figured people would get it since I included 'MtF' in my original post. Bad on my part.

D'Ankhiar
My bad for not noticing your reference MtF in your original post. A classic example of lazy reading on my part. I have a tendancy to see the things I am interested in and glossing over the rest. Clearly, noticing the reference would have made a difference in my response, so my apologies too.

 

[dankhiar]

We differ in that respect. My testosterone was low (female range) to begin with, although it shot up during transition and I had a "taste" of the stuff for a while. It didn't taste good, although it offered me a bit of physical endurance that I had never had. The increase was, unfortunately, caused by a serious medical condition. I have been post-op for over 7 years, and it is not an issue now. I do need to maintain a good diet because I no longer take a maintenance dose of estradiol -- that stuff nearly killed me too.

What I have learned about hormones since those days is pretty scary, as was my own experience with taking them. Do take care.

Very true, we do. I'm somewhat androgynous to begin with, small framed and soft features for a male my age (for the most past anyways), to what I've noticed and people have told me. However, I really don't know what my hormone levels are at, naturally. Last time I went to my doctor I didn't bother in asking a lot of questions I need to have answered. My excitement took over! I'm definitely asking them on my next appointment. Though, I was put on a common dosage for the spiro(50mg) and estradiol(2mg) to begin with, so I guess my natural hormones started out at a regular level.

Thanks for sharing about your experience, it's very interesting and informative.

With the extra testosterone being produced in ketosis, does this have counteract the HRT?

I've been wondering this too. The thing is that not everyone starts out, or even stays on the same dosage throughout their transition (not to mention that they gradually increase it too), so my guess would be they'd simply alter the dosage as the hormones in your body change.

 

[RedFox]

I've noticed that my skin was getting extra dry after the cold showers. My massage therapist said that my skin was eating up all her oil!

Something that works for me is organic apple cider vinegar and magnesium chloride (33%)
The ACV kills any bacteria that may contribute to odor and it also re- acidify's the skin. From
what I understand, our skin's natural state is to be slightly acidic. I read that magnesium
chloride has odor control properties, you also get a small dose of
transdermal Magnesium therapy also. There is a thread, search "body odor" that gives som
great information. It does say that magnesium oil alone doesn't work, I think it's the
combination of acv and magnesium that works for me.

I made a batch of magnesium oil recently using dead sea salt (mostly magnesium and some potassium), I also added a dash of ionic trace minerals.
I put it in an old ACV bottle (so there was a hint of some left).
After about 4-5 days of using it, my skin is really great! It also works really well as an aftershave (so be careful on sensitive or damaged skin). It seems my skin needed minerals more than fats to become less dry.

 

[lilyalic]

I've noticed that my skin was getting extra dry after the cold showers. My massage therapist said that my skin was eating up all her oil!

Something that works for me is organic apple cider vinegar and magnesium chloride (33%)
The ACV kills any bacteria that may contribute to odor and it also re- acidify's the skin. From
what I understand, our skin's natural state is to be slightly acidic. I read that magnesium
chloride has odor control properties, you also get a small dose of
transdermal Magnesium therapy also. There is a thread, search "body odor" that gives som
great information. It does say that magnesium oil alone doesn't work, I think it's the
combination of acv and magnesium that works for me.

I made a batch of magnesium oil recently using dead sea salt (mostly magnesium and some potassium), I also added a dash of ionic trace minerals.
I put it in an old ACV bottle (so there was a hint of some left).
After about 4-5 days of using it, my skin is really great! It also works really well as an aftershave (so be careful on sensitive or damaged skin). It seems my skin needed minerals more than fats to become less dry.

Yeah my skin seems to be getting extra dry after starting the cold showers a week ago, not even olive oil and lavender seem to be keeping it soft!

I'll be giving this Mag. oil & APV a go! Cheers guys :)

 

[Jenn]

I've noticed that my skin was getting extra dry after the cold showers. My massage therapist said that my skin was eating up all her oil!

Something that works for me is organic apple cider vinegar and magnesium chloride (33%)
The ACV kills any bacteria that may contribute to odor and it also re- acidify's the skin. From
what I understand, our skin's natural state is to be slightly acidic. I read that magnesium
chloride has odor control properties, you also get a small dose of
transdermal Magnesium therapy also. There is a thread, search "body odor" that gives som
great information. It does say that magnesium oil alone doesn't work, I think it's the
combination of acv and magnesium that works for me.

I made a batch of magnesium oil recently using dead sea salt (mostly magnesium and some potassium), I also added a dash of ionic trace minerals.
I put it in an old ACV bottle (so there was a hint of some left).
After about 4-5 days of using it, my skin is really great! It also works really well as an aftershave (so be careful on sensitive or damaged skin). It seems my skin needed minerals more than fats to become less dry.

I just wanted to report that after cold showers I developed really dry skin on my ankles, tallow wasn't working and after reading the post above I decided to try mag oil, and it has worked wonders!!!

I also tried diluted apple cider vinegar on dry patches on my face (1 part apple cider vinegar 4 parts water) and it made me very itchy and red for about an hour or so. I think i may try again with more water as maybe my skins abit sensitive.

thanks for the heads up about magnesium oil :)