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Here is the article :
_Skripal Case Bombshell: Swiss Lab Reports 'BZ Toxin' Used In Salisbury - Chemical Not Produced In Russia, Only NATO States -- Sott.net
Today, when I read this piece of news (first in French on Voltaire network), I thought : wow, what a tremendous turnaround !
But, when I tried to check the news, I had no success.
On the web site of the Swiss Lab (Labor Spiez), in the news section, not a word about it.
_SPIEZ LABORATORY - News
But on their Twitter thread, the subject is indeed takled (since around 6h) :
_SpiezLab - Twitter Search
From their own tweets, they refuse to comment :
Illustrated an this image (Lavrov's take on it)
So, here is the article (in German) from NZZ (Andreas Rüesch, 2018/04/05, 19:56):
_«Kein Zweifel am Nowitschok-Resultat» | NZZ
A translation (by the recommended translator) :
BTW, another article from the same website (Christof Forster, 2018/01/12, 05:30) :
_Dieser Schweizer untersucht Giftgaseinsätze in Syrien | NZZ
A translation of the header (by the recommended translator) :
Apparently, this Stefan Mogl is (in)famous for a (similar) hoax (last year ?) :
Well, what a wonderful psycho-war ! What do you think of it ?
PS : for the sake of archive, here is the comment from the Russian Embassy in UK :
_Embassy Press Officer comments on the findings of the Swiss experts regarding the Salisbury incident
Here is the article :
_Skripal Case Bombshell: Swiss Lab Reports 'BZ Toxin' Used In Salisbury - Chemical Not Produced In Russia, Only NATO States -- Sott.net
Today, when I read this piece of news (first in French on Voltaire network), I thought : wow, what a tremendous turnaround !
But, when I tried to check the news, I had no success.
On the web site of the Swiss Lab (Labor Spiez), in the news section, not a word about it.
_SPIEZ LABORATORY - News
But on their Twitter thread, the subject is indeed takled (since around 6h) :
_SpiezLab - Twitter Search
From their own tweets, they refuse to comment :
(08:44 - 14 avr. 2018)Spiez Lab said:OPCW has to clarify. We are not able to comment.
(2 hours ago)Spiez Lab said:Only OPCW can comment this assertion. But we can repeat what we stated 10 days ago: We have no doubt that Porton Down has identified Novichock. PD - like Spiez - is a designated lab of the OPCW. The standards in verification are so rigid that one can trust the findings.
Illustrated an this image (Lavrov's take on it)
(5h ago)Spiez Lab said:Again, as a designated Lab of the OPCW we cannot independently comment on this. What we can publicly say is in the article of the Neue Zürcher Zeitung: https://www.nzz.ch/international/kein-zweifel-am-nowitschok-resultat-ld.1374775 … If you don't read german, try the deepl translator, it works like a charm. https://www.deepl.com/translator
So, here is the article (in German) from NZZ (Andreas Rüesch, 2018/04/05, 19:56):
_«Kein Zweifel am Nowitschok-Resultat» | NZZ
A translation (by the recommended translator) :
NZZ.ch said:"No doubt about the Novichok result"
In the crisis surrounding the poison attack in Salisbury, Moscow is attacking the credibility of the British findings. However, a Swiss chemical weapons expert has no doubt that the British correctly identified the warfare agent used and that it is the poison Novichok developed in Russia.
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A month has passed since the poison attack on former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal, but the crisis this has caused is far from over. The fact that for the first time since the Second World War a military nerve poison has been used on European soil has not only caused horror among the general public, but has also astounded experts. "I was very surprised," says Stefan Mogl, Head of the Chemistry Department at the Spiez Laboratory of the Federal Office for Civil Protection and one of the best experts on the problem of C-weapons.
Mysterious fabrics
The 53-year-old Mogl is familiar with the mode of action of nerve poisons; he used to work as an inspector in the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) for many years and in 2017 investigated the massacre of the poison gas sarin in the Syrian town of Khan Sheikhun on behalf of the UN. He calls the actual shock in the Skripal case above all the warfare agent used - a substance from the Novichok group. Even experts have only fragmentary information on these substances developed in Soviet military laboratories, mainly from the reports of Russian scientists, which have never been officially confirmed.
Mogl rules out the possibility that British chemical weapons experts could have misidentified the substance or spread false information. "I have no doubt that the laboratory has measured correctly and that it is actually Novitschok," he says in conversation. He derives this certainty from the fact that Porton Down's military laboratory in charge of the investigation belongs to a network of more than twenty institutions specialising in C-weapon analyses, which also includes the Spiez laboratory and whose quality is undisputed. The standards enforced by the OPCW in verification were so rigid that one could fully trust the findings of such an institute.
Based on this assessment, the independent investigation ordered by the OPCW is not expected to yield major surprises. At a British invitation at the end of March, a group of inspectors from the organisation collected further evidence in Salisbury, including blood samples from the two victims Sergei and Julia Skripal as well as environmental samples. Two laboratories of the OPCW network are currently evaluating them; their findings are expected to be available at the beginning of next week. The OPCW General Secretariat has rejected the Russian demand to publish the names of the experts and laboratories involved. This is common practice in such cases. Nor would it be customary to entrust the analyses to an accused party, in this case Russia.
Is it possible to determine the exact origin of the substance used by checking it? Mogl makes it clear that this is not possible at today's level of knowledge. In this respect, the excitement about the statements of the head of Porton Down, who had stated on Tuesday that his institute could not prove that the substance came from Russia, is also mistaken. According to Mogl, such a finding was never to be expected: So little is known about how Novitschok poisons are produced that it is impossible to draw any conclusions about the country of origin or even the responsible laboratory. That distinguishes this case from that in Syria: There, due to contamination in the investigated warfare agents and with the help of comparative samples, it could be determined that the sarin used in Khan Sheikhun most likely originated from Syrian army stocks.
Lack of transparency
Against this background, the Russian tactic of denying any involvement and insinuating that the Novichok poison could just as well come from a Western country is understandable. In a book published in 2008, Russian scientist Wil Mirzayanov, who emigrated to America, described several Novichok substances and thus made them known to a wider circle. Mogl believes that it is conceivable that some states could use this as a basis for synthesizing the toxins themselves for research purposes. The Chemical Weapons Convention expressly permits activities for "protection purposes", i.e. the production of warfare agents that are illegal in themselves for the purpose of checking their own defence capability.
However, only small quantities of the best-known warfare agents may be produced and they must be reported to the OPCW. However, there is a gap in Novichok toxins. Although they would undoubtedly belong to the most dangerous category of outlawed warfare agents, they have never been included on the list and therefore do not need to be declared. As far as Mogl knows, the OPCW therefore has no insight into any holdings of Novichok worldwide.
BTW, another article from the same website (Christof Forster, 2018/01/12, 05:30) :
_Dieser Schweizer untersucht Giftgaseinsätze in Syrien | NZZ
A translation of the header (by the recommended translator) :
NZZ.ch said:This Swiss investigates poison gas missions in Syria
How do you explain the use of poison gas and verify reports from local organisations? The Swiss chemical weapons expert Stefan Mogl knows how.
Apparently, this Stefan Mogl is (in)famous for a (similar) hoax (last year ?) :
JohnDelacour said:Remember that Stefan Mogl of@SpiezLab worked with the criminal Edmond Mulet to produce the fraudulent@UN/@OPCW JIM report following the#Khan_Sheikhun#SARIN_HOAX. It’s all very incestuous and suspect.
Well, what a wonderful psycho-war ! What do you think of it ?
PS : for the sake of archive, here is the comment from the Russian Embassy in UK :
_Embassy Press Officer comments on the findings of the Swiss experts regarding the Salisbury incident
Russian Embassy in UK said:Embassy Press Officer comments on the findings of the Swiss experts regarding the Salisbury incident
Q. Is there any new information regarding the findings of experts from Switzerland in connection with the Salisbury poisoning?
A. According to information from the Swiss Federal Institute for NBC-protection in Spiez, its experts received samples collected in Salisbury by the OPCW specialists and finished testing them on 27 March.
The experts of the Institute discovered traces of toxic chemical called “BZ” and its precursors. It is a Schedule 2 substance under the Chemical Weapons Convention.
“BZ” is a chemical agent, which is used to temporary incapacitate people. The desired psychotoxic effect is reached in 30-60 minutes after application of the agent and lasts up to four days. According to the information the Russian Federation possesses, this agent was used in the armed forces of the USA, United Kingdom and several others NATO member states. No stocks of such substance ever existed either in the Soviet Union or in the Russian Federation.
In addition, the Swiss specialists discovered strong concentration of traces of the nerve agent of A-234 type in its initial states as well as its decomposition products.
In view of the experts, such concentration of the A-234 agent would result in inevitable fatal outcome of its administration. Moreover, considering its high volatility, the detection of this substance in its initial state (pure form and high concentration) is extremely suspicious as the samples have been taken several weeks since the poisoning.
It looks highly likely that the “BZ” nerve agent was used in Salisbury. The fact that Yulia Skripal and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey have already been discharged from hospital, and Sergei Skripal is on his way to recovery, only supports such conclusion.
All this information was not mentioned in the final OPCW report at all.
Considering the above, we have numerous serious questions to all interested parties, including the OPCW.