Sleep paralyses?? Help!

[s-kur]

S-kur - maybe it was the melatonin that made you hallucinate.

I haven't had SP lately, but I used to have them quite often. For me, SP was mostly just a nasty but strictly physical experience, although I've had a couple of fearful hallucinative SP episodes.

We don't fully know how our brains work. Science doesn't fully know. What more during sleep, when the conscious mind is out to lunch and the subconscious mind reigns. In the throes of SP, you feel afraid - what you would do in your normal state of wakefulness cannot be done here because your conscious mind is asleep. Your subconscious handles your fear differently because it is a different processor - it conjures up things that make you afraid, to reflect your fear, to reinforce it... Almost like how it is when you dream. And I would argue that in fact, you are.

Just as there is psychic ability, astral projection, or remote viewing, there are many (and varied) ways that the brain can tap into the Information Field. And I wonder, how much of the "tearing of the veil," when it happens, happens in the brain?

May be melatonin cause this experience , and may be it was only hallucinate :D I think melatonin with its influence on the sleeping can provokes such effects. Idea that when consciousness with its programms, stereotips and controls is totally turned off during the deeply sleeping...consciousness can observate what's hapenning in the dreams...in other words consciousness is inactive (i don't know if something else could observate our dreams?) and passively watch the dream, what the subconsciousness create. And any(not superficial dream) dream, really dream, deeply dream is a "tearing of the veil". I don't know how brain actually works in a dream time...I think most of dreams is a consideration of problems and experiences and consciousness is involve in this work...It's like our imagination in our being which keeps us in a dream and prevents to wake up. But as cleared consciousness give us a great results in being...as having a rest consciousness give us an "insideous dreams"- "tearing of the veil"...I hope it was expressed clearly...more or less) :D

 

[Dave_P]

Well, I think it is not necessary to create another topic on this subject. I would like to tell you my experience that occurred two days ago. I was sleeping when I started the "sleep paralysis" felt something grab me right arm ( I try to make a sound but nothing came out) so try to calm down and move just a little until I could get it, I really surprised a bit but as I had been in the past (the last time was about 11 months ago) so, I try to take it easy, try to rationalize it and went back to sleep. It is interesting that happened to me twice in one night that night around 12 a.m I happened again, the difference is that I felt they were trying to pull my left leg, which I did this time was to concentrate and say mentally "NO, NO , NO " when I could finally move i was even more surprised happened twice in one night. Was weird. As for the diet I'm not eating any gluten and I'm lowering the amount of sugar and carbohydrates as I'm trying to lower the amount of a little (it costs me a bit). Anyway, just wanted to express my experience and know if anyone can provide some data that more could be done.

Ps: as for the light, was completely dark.

 

[truth seeker]

Well, I think it is not necessary to create another topic on this subject. I would like to tell you my experience that occurred two days ago. I was sleeping when I started the "sleep paralysis" felt something grab me right arm ( I try to make a sound but nothing came out) so try to calm down and move just a little until I could get it, I really surprised a bit but as I had been in the past (the last time was about 11 months ago) so, I try to take it easy, try to rationalize it and went back to sleep. It is interesting that happened to me twice in one night that night around 12 a.m I happened again, the difference is that I felt they were trying to pull my left leg, which I did this time was to concentrate and say mentally "NO, NO , NO " when I could finally move i was even more surprised happened twice in one night. Was weird. As for the diet I'm not eating any gluten and I'm lowering the amount of sugar and carbohydrates as I'm trying to lower the amount of a little (it costs me a bit). Anyway, just wanted to express my experience and know if anyone can provide some data that more could be done.

Ps: as for the light, was completely dark.

Are you having dairy? If so, that may also factor into it.

 

[Phill4]

You know one thing it really happens often to people, I had it present but forgot to say it,
My grandmother used to tell us that people who do not pray at night before sleep got taken away by the devil.
and told us stories of people she knew.
She described "paralysis, and the tongue becoming fat not allowing you to talk, and your hands are trapped. then the devil tries to pick up the ones who prayed but can't, and the ones who didn't he could lift them with one hand and drags them through the town forest and so on."

she claimed and swore this actually happened to people, where they were sometimes found under their beds the next day.

If you pull out Her Catholic input from the story, it is still very accurate description, she claimed that happened to some family members also (for not praying) and I have that problem quite frequently actually (maybe in the Genes).

My sleep paralysis still happens, and it makes sense to me that is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Specially when I sleep twice the same day it never fails.
I have to fall asleep in steps LOL. > >

 

[davey72]

What can help you with sleep paralysis?
1) ketogenic diet (if it is too strict for you at least try not to eat carbs/sugar after 5 pm)
2) avoiding sleeping in supine (''on the back'') position
3) melatonin and magnesium
4) sleeping not longer than 8 hours in a row, and avoiding daytime naps
5) sleeping in a dark room with wifi turned off, and cellphones left in your living room

Sleep paralysis occurs in shallow sleep, so by promoting deep NREM sleep (steps 1-5) you can minimize it.
Alcohol, benzos and Ambien should be avoided: they promote shallow REM sleep (and overall
they improve the quantity of sleep but not the quality of it).

My most terrible sleep paralysis episodes happened when I took a nap
right after a carb-rich lunch (while lying in my bed on my back) in a well-lit room
with wi-fi, cellphones and even PC on.

I teresting. I never knew that it occured in shallow sleep. I remember the first time it happened to me i was about eighteen and thought at the time that it may have have had something to do with the zopiclone i had takenwhich i have assumed is probably very similar to ambien.

 

[Dave_P]

Are you having dairy? If so, that may also factor into it.

Hi truth seeker. Actually the only thing from dairy consumption is hard or semi hard cheese or mozzarella (pizza gluten free).

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[truth seeker]

Hi truth seeker. Actually the only thing from dairy consumption is hard or semi hard cheese or mozzarella (pizza gluten free).

Maybe try going without it for a few days/couple weeks or so and see if you notice any change? The reason I say this is because dairy/cheese seems to play a role in sleep paralysis.

 

[Dave_P]

Hi truth seeker. Actually the only thing from dairy consumption is hard or semi hard cheese or mozzarella (pizza gluten free).

Maybe try going without it for a few days/couple weeks or so and see if you notice any change? The reason I say this is because dairy/cheese seems to play a role in sleep paralysis.

Thanks so much truth seeker!!! i don't know it about the conection betwen dairy and sleep paralysis. I will say goodbye to cheese for some weeks and see how is the reaction of my body/mind. I know of this is a experiment to know what is better for the body. So, i don't loose nothing trying. thanks again :)

 

[RedFox]

fwiw I use to get sleep paralysis all the time, especially as a teenager.
It pretty much disappeared on the paleo diet, with only a few exceptions.
When it did re-occur it followed eating a sugary desert (which spikes blood sugar/raises insulin), or when not sleeping in complete darkness (more specifically sleeping in daylight).
There also seems to be a link with sleep apnia (sleeping in daylight once led to sleep paralysis and feeling like I couldn't breath).

Sleep deprivation (or sleeping in a room that's too bright) leads to insulin resistance and elevated/crashing blood sugar (along with adrenal fatigue), so my current theory based on all of the above is sleep paralysis can be a symptom of a hormonal imbalance and elevated/crashing blood sugar whilst sleeping. If your blood sugar crashes at night, adrenaline will kick in - which may explain the racing heart and fear that tends to go with sleep paralysis.

Exercise (to lower insulin resistance) and a paleo/keto (fat burning) diet would likely be the best option :)

 

[Dave_P]

thank you all for your answers! I will put your advice into practice in order to experience positive change. more than that, the consumption of sugar is (compared to last) very little, but often I feel the need to consume some foods with sugar as a means to acquire some energy (often I visit the house of my Mother and foods with high fat content are not always at hand)