Sleep Paralysis

Muxel said:
[..]Yeah I've gotten out of SP by doing this before and can vouch for it. But there were times when I had SP while supine and with my cervical spine flexed to a small degree (head nodded forward slightly due to pillow), and it seems my breathing was significantly incapacitated. Maybe a paralyzed diaphragm or intercostals or some other breathing muscle. This used to be the scariest part of SP for me: the near-suffocation.
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I had a few bouts of sleep paralysis along the same lines earlier this year - it was whilst I was ill with a sinus infection and sleeping during the daylight. It also involved not being able to breathe properly it seems. Going against your natural sleep rhythm or sleeping with too much light probably has an influence - I can't remember any occurrence of sleep paralysis happening in total darkness.
If you are still getting this I'd make sure you are not consuming any gluten/dairy (try a different fat instead of butter for the moment), those opioids really do set things like that off. Also make sure you are low carb as high sugar is the other thing that sets it off for me.
 
Lot of people relate this with paranormal activity, I have this idea that it may be possible if your brain has the correct chemicals in it or something like that. So eating those things may help it.

I've had sleep paralysis every time in night, sometimes I sleep a lot in daytime and never had once a sleep paralysis.
 
wetroof said:
My sleep Paralysis has changed overtime. Before it was very 'light'. now it is usually accompanied with a pulsing in my brain that can be uncomfortable and hurt when it is really pronounced.
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I've never mentioned this to anyone, but I used to have sleep paralysis alot.....too much.

Started when I joined the army at 18 and lasted until...oh, I dont know...around 30 I guess.

It began pretty much as what I hear described as what most experience....inability to move, impending doom, that type of thing.

When the onset of pain you mention started for me, there was no uncomfortable about it, for me at least. It felt as if my soul were being ripped to shreds. It was pure torture, seemingly night after night lasting forever. (I work as an electrician. One time I got hit by 277v of electricity. Even though it was only from my thumbpad to my forearm, it felt as if my whole body was hit. This is what it felt like)

For years I suffered with this. To this day, I still do not know why.

At some point, I just snapped. Now, I dont get angry much but I guess that I had enough. That was it. There was going to be no more begging, pleading, crying for it to stop.

I cant remember the date, but I can remember the mindset. You want me, the fing take me. Its kind of funny now, looking back at it, but then I was really ticked. Enough was enough.

Now I dont know if this would be the wrong thing to do, but it does not matter. Whats done is done. Anyways. I challenged it. I wanted it. Bring it.
And it did. I still to this day feel as if it was a fight for my life.

Once this decision was made, during the episodes, the pain would increase each time and each time I would remain defiant. Is that all you got. Then came the point that I took control. I called it on. I wanted more, I willed more, I forced it to give me more. It was me basically saying, "You cant have me. I am stronger than you"!!

It was that point of time that things started to change. The episodes happened less and less. Went from a few days a week, to a few days a month, to almost non existant. Also, as the time went on, I was able to recognize it before it had time to take full effect. For some reason, as soon as I recognized it it would begin to recede.

I'll be 45 pretty soon. Every once in a great while it still tries to slip in but I see it and its not a problem anymore, but looking back....I dont know what it was....why my brain would act like that...but I feel like I won something and I am a lucky man.

I know. Fantastic story eh? Probably why I've never mentioned it to anyone.

For whatever reason, I was thinking about this tonight and decided to look here to see what was up with that. I've read a bit on this, but could not find much about people experiencing pain. I was kind of surprised when I read what I quoted.
 
Not like so amazing because it is typical of many people, but I really like your writing style, have you considered writing a novel or something? you can be good at it.

Well after reading here and there, specially listening from one of my icons Ben pakulski and first reading about it here thanks to Shinji, I think the problem of sleep paralysis is related to some food allergy like allergy to gluten, eating unnecessary amounts of carbohydrates, and adrenal fatigue.

So we can adjudicate two meanings, either because you were in the army and heavy program was put upon yourself or maybe you was over stressed or had some crazy hormonal activity. Or both. People can be broken through their diet.
 
Prometeo said:
So we can adjudicate two meanings, either because you were in the army and heavy program was put upon yourself or maybe you was over stressed or had some crazy hormonal activity. Or both. People can be broken through their diet.
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As far as I know, it could be all or none of the above. I have no idea. Just something strange.

I tend to lean towards the stress factor. As for everyone, in their own way, life is a challenge to put it mildly. Growing up really beat the crap out of me and the only way that I saw as an "out" was to join the military. That would get me away. Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire. I think that was the point that the fact of living almost broke me. I simply couldn't face anymore. Was it my minds way of saying that I could die or I could fight?

At some point I must have decided that I wanted life and had to fight for it.

Course, that is all just supposition on my part. Its beyond me.

Looking at the diet aspect in a different light right now. I grew up in a very small town in Central Maine surrounded by the "big woods". (Millions of acres with an occasional small town here and there.) Never really thought about it, but we lived pretty much as hunter/gatherers. A large portion of are food was from the land itself.

You bring up a good point. Along with everything else, there was a drastic change in diet. Never made the connection until now.
 
I've been musing on this a bit. I wonder what was added to anything they fed us.

Reason I am thinking this is that when I went into the service, I was at roughly 175 pounds and skinny as a rail. I guess it would be considered a good runners body since I ran all through my high school years.

After my basic training (8 weeks) and my AIT (schooling, 12 weeks), I was sitting at 215 pounds, pure muscle.

Even my own parents had a hard time recognizing me. They were in amazement. Lol, can still remember my uncle's seeming fascination with the size of my neck.

Roughly 4 1/2 months, 40 pounds. Is that something that is "natural" when entering into a strenuous exercise regime, or is that something that is "over the top". Just one of the many things I've never really thought on.

Anyhow, like I said musing a bit, just trying to make some connections here in regards to events throughout my life.
 
Prometeo said:
Well, stress is I guess, the main factor of adrenal fatigue and there are different sources for stress.

Here's the thread for adrenal fatigue if you want to look at it:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,488.0.html
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Finally made some time to look over this thread and all I can say is wow...talk about a wealth of information. Thank you very much.

I had to laugh because not far down I saw this

There are four major categories of stress:

1. Physical stress—such as overwork, lack of sleep, athletic over-training, etc.

2. Chemical stress—from environmental pollutants, diets high in refined carbohydrates, allergies to foods and additives, endocrine gland imbalances (due to the interaction of all of the endocrine glands).

3. Thermal stress—over-heating or over-chilling of the body

4. Emotional and mental stress
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Lol, most of that is the military.

As far as the situation I experienced, (with the sleep paralysis/pain), I dont know. I guess it could have been so many things. Only thing that I suppose I will always have to wonder about is that is was not until I became angry and actively fought it while in the state. Health wise though I am in pretty good shape outside of a couple "sore" spots spots (I call them) sustained from injury's at work which pretty much beats the body to begin with. Also, I very rarely get sick. (knock on wood).

Regardless, this article will be going directly to my mother!!!! There are so many symptoms in there that she has suffered/complained about with doctors only trying this or that but never solving a thing. She has been searching for years for an answer and I think this thread may very well be the answer.

Very interesting thread, and if I remember in the future, I will respond back if something comes of this for my mother. Would be a Godsend if she can find something in there that can be defined and used to help.

Once again, TYVM!!!!!!
 
Medulin makes great scientific/medical points. JP makes great metaphysical points. I don't know if my two cents are worth anything, but I use to read a lot of books about astral projection and out of body experiences (many were very scientifically slanted) and they go into great detail about sleep paralysis, because it is generally a precursor to some kind of experience.

My understanding is that sleep paralysis is a natural state that we all experience nearly every night... a way for our body to keep us from acting out (thrashing about) during REM or our dream state. When we experience sleep paralysis, it's not that its unusual; what is unsual is being consciously aware that our body is in the sleep paralysis state, i.e. asleep.

So the real question here is what might be causing your mind to activate (or become conscious) when it and your body should be otherwise asleep?

Also, it's a bit of a hypothesis on my part, but the "suffocation" may be related to your conscious mind over-riding your involuntary breathing system when you become aware. It makes sense that if your body is controlling breathing during sleep, and you become aware (thus engaging in "conscious breathing" while you don't have any motor functions), you would feel suffocated, because... you're not breathing.

Each time i've experienced sleep paralysis, it has usually been accompanied by other body frequency phenomena, such as vibrations, buzzing sounds, etc. According to the literature I've read, this is due to the "astral body" or "etheric body" vibrating at a different rate than the physical (and sleeping) body, thus creating a friction which we interpret as vibrations and sounds.

As JP says, this can be an opportunity, for the less faint of heart, to explore some (I will stop there in giving any direct advice).

All in all, sleep paralysis is a natural phenomena and is not harmful once understood. Experimenting with different techniques, in a calm manner, to break the paralysis might be a worthwhile pursuit. Doing so, while realizing that you're paralyzed because your body and mind are not in sync (i.e. your mind is awake and your body is asleep), gives you the basis to start controlling the paralysis.

The entities that one sees are not of 3rd density and will be there regardless (even when you don't see them), but as far as I understand, they can't harm us. Training yourself to mentally block/reject entities is an excercise that has helped me tremendously. Fear keeps us from acting properly. But thinking in a courageous manner and declaring that you are soveriegn and demanding that any ill-willed entity leave your immediate space, has worked for me.

Hope this helped.
 
This is a great point OneLittleBird. Perhaps it is diet that sets it off, as i haven't experienced it for a very long time now. Ever since i have cut out gluten, and dairy. I think i may have related this elsewhere, but years ago i also found one night that if you can get rid of the fear, you can get rid of the presence. I did this one night, and then decided to kind of meditate, and was able to consciously rise out of my body. I felt like i was ripping myself from my body, and it sounded like a jackhammer in my head, although it wasn't unpleasant. Then i found myself a couple inches from the ceiling. I experimented a little after that, and had some fun with it. Perhaps i needed the distraction at that time in my life.
 
OneLittleBird said:
Medulin makes great scientific/medical points. JP makes great metaphysical points. I don't know if my two cents are worth anything, but I use to read a lot of books about astral projection and out of body experiences (many were very scientifically slanted) and they go into great detail about sleep paralysis, because it is generally a precursor to some kind of experience.

My understanding is that sleep paralysis is a natural state that we all experience nearly every night... a way for our body to keep us from acting out (thrashing about) during REM or our dream state. When we experience sleep paralysis, it's not that its unusual; what is unsual is being consciously aware that our body is in the sleep paralysis state, i.e. asleep.

So the real question here is what might be causing your mind to activate (or become conscious) when it and your body should be otherwise asleep?

Also, it's a bit of a hypothesis on my part, but the "suffocation" may be related to your conscious mind over-riding your involuntary breathing system when you become aware. It makes sense that if your body is controlling breathing during sleep, and you become aware (thus engaging in "conscious breathing" while you don't have any motor functions), you would feel suffocated, because... you're not breathing.

Each time i've experienced sleep paralysis, it has usually been accompanied by other body frequency phenomena, such as vibrations, buzzing sounds, etc. According to the literature I've read, this is due to the "astral body" or "etheric body" vibrating at a different rate than the physical (and sleeping) body, thus creating a friction which we interpret as vibrations and sounds.

As JP says, this can be an opportunity, for the less faint of heart, to explore some (I will stop there in giving any direct advice).

All in all, sleep paralysis is a natural phenomena and is not harmful once understood. Experimenting with different techniques, in a calm manner, to break the paralysis might be a worthwhile pursuit. Doing so, while realizing that you're paralyzed because your body and mind are not in sync (i.e. your mind is awake and your body is asleep), gives you the basis to start controlling the paralysis.

The entities that one sees are not of 3rd density and will be there regardless (even when you don't see them), but as far as I understand, they can't harm us. Training yourself to mentally block/reject entities is an excercise that has helped me tremendously. Fear keeps us from acting properly. But thinking in a courageous manner and declaring that you are soveriegn and demanding that any ill-willed entity leave your immediate space, has worked for me.

Hope this helped.
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Pretty much yeah. When I was going through these paranormal experience, I was going through emotional breakdown, my worse year 2013 and what was a real problem was my sleeplessness, not the sleep paralysis as after it happens you can just kinda recover, and then fall asleep again, but I was having stress and my nutrition wasn't like 100% clean, nor I was getting my needed nutrients, and I was killing myself in the gym.

So it is pretty much related to some body malfunction, maybe nor cardiovascular nor the immune system but to the bowels, and everything related to food synthesis, maybe the balance from catabolic and anabolic states? The cs' mentioned to Laura, that what happens during sleep paralysis is two thought patterns are being in conflict, two thought patterns opposed to each other.

Also yeah, those things either aliens or demons, they can be whatever the person believes it is. Some see a murderer, some see a ghost of a family member, some see satan, some just shadows, some see old hags. I still haven't read of the case of someone that has died for not breathing while being paralyzed. One and only one case in particular of sleep paralysis or similar that may be relevant, is of Joseph Smith. Based on his narrative he experienced two paralysis, while he was praying at the top of the hill, and while he was sleeping, then angels appeared in a ray of light and inspired him with all the material of the mormon church. But he describes it as a divine experience, of course after being surrounded by a paralysis and shadows. If sleep paralysis happens while the REM mode, when we become aware we may be still duped, or under the influence of the natural body chemicals and I don't know, we have access to a different spectrum of reality that is not entirely physical nor is a dream. Or maybe the body lacks of proper nutrients and PH balance, and our sleep is affected. When I was in mormon school, all of the students and fanatics of this religion, took these sleep experiences as divine and to be appreciated... yeah whatever.
 
It's funny this came up upon awakening, as i was thinking that i would post about it today, after awakening from paralysis last night. I have experienced it again twice in the last few days. My diet is pretty good. The only things different are that both times i fell asleep watching television, which i don't normally do. I also made some apple, date, cranberry preserves last night, and ate quite a bit. Both times were essentially the same. I am on the couch. First one i awoke, and was up moving around, when i started having problems seeing, and moving properly which is common for my dreams at certain points in my life. As soon as this started happening i immediately realized that i must be sleeping. The second time i knew immediately, and was trying to uncross my arms to make my breathing easier. No evil presence at all. I know it is a great state to meditate in, and think about that while in this state, but i still kind of panic a little, or make excuses to myself like i am not in the right position, cant breathe properly, etc. I say to myself that i will do it next time. and so i try to wake myself instead.
 
In my experience, sleep paralysis (with or without the scary 'hallucinations') is definitely related to one's diet.

I first began having sleep paralysis that was also accompanied by 'night terrors' at about the same time that I found this forum. In the months that followed, sleep paralysis became repeating and unsettling occurrence, and it was only when I listened to the forum member's advice and completely eliminated gluten, dairy, processed junk, etc. and switched to paleo and then keto diet, that sleep paralysis stopped happening.

Since then, the only few times it happened again were when I slipped up on diet and ate something that contained gluten or dairy in it (ADDED: even when I was still eating buckwheat). Not to mention the other side effects of doing so, like headaches, 'bad sensations in my gut' and generally feeling like crap. You are what you eat comes to mind :P

Also, I remember one particular sleep paralysis during which I heard constant buzzing/drilling sound that was coming from inside my belly and I assumed was connected to my sleep paralysis. I couldn't move ofc, but I wanted to know what was making that noise. Also, I heard squeaky noises that seemed as if they were coming from some tiny little 'creatures', and the noises/voices also reminded me of the voices made by bacteria in those "domestos" cleaning product commercials.

Then I wished to see what those things that were producing those drilling noises and "had squeaky voices" looked like. In my mind's eye then appeared a picture of what looked like as multitude of spherical organic looking objects that had spikes and other features on their surfaces. To cut it short, when I later saw pictures of some spherical bacteria and virii, the resemblance was uncanny. That happened during the time in which I was still consuming gluten and dairy.

I know it's just experience that happened during sleep paralysis which is known to produce hallucinatory visions, etc., but still, I look it as just one among many experiences/lessons that I had to experience to finally learn what I now know to be a plain truth - proper diet is indispensable for health of each aspect of our organisms, and ingesting junk, especially gluten and dairy wreaks havoc in our bodies and creates imbalances in our organisms, probably in more ways then even us here suspect.
 
I also experience sleep paralysis sometimes. For instance, I experienced it today, while I had a nap in the afternoon on some white noise sounds. I heard an electrical sound in my head, and for the moment it felt like even the white noise sound stopped from playing(the speakers running out of electricity). A weird feeling, like being in an another place in a very short moment.
I want to mention that I do not experience "evil" encounters, but it can be painfully sometimes because it simply locks the spine, and you feel electrocuted. But after moving a finger or placing attention on breathing you just come back.
 
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