Smokers need not apply for a job

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From http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jan/18/smokers-need-not-apply-job/

I ran across this today in the newsletter I get from care2.com. I was happy to see that the general reaction there was that this was over-the-top Big Brother in action. Thought I'd post it here since we don't toe the politically-correct line about smoking.

Smokers need not apply for a job

Memorial carves out plan to emphasize health focus

As if higher tobacco taxes, steeper health insurance premiums and smoke-free workplaces weren’t enough, tobacco users have one more financial incentive to kick the habit — missed job opportunities.

Starting Feb. 1, Memorial Hospital no longer will hire people who use tobacco products, making the hospital one of a small number of employers nationwide that consider smoking status in job applicants.

Under the new rule, which does not affect current Memorial employees, those offered employment at the hospital will be tested for nicotine during their required drug test, a human resources officer said. Even nicotine gum or the patch would make a potential employee ineligible.

The decision not to hire tobacco users isn’t based on potential savings in health care costs, but rather is an extension of the hospital’s commitment to health, said Brad Pope, vice president of human resources. Like all hospitals in the region, Memorial’s entire hospital campus is tobacco-free.

“I understand the concerns people have, but we are here for the health of our community,” he said. “Like it or not, what’s proven is that tobacco is the most preventable cause of death and disability in the United States. I think the Chattanooga and surrounding communities should expect this from Memorial.”

The practice of refusing employment to tobacco users began to crop up a few years ago and isn’t yet widespread, a tobacco control researcher said. Particularly in the deep South, and in a tobacco state such as Tennessee, it’s a bold move for Memorial, said pulmonologist Dr. Carlos Baleeiro, with Battlefield Pulmonology in Fort Oglethorpe

“It’s very brave of them,” he said. “I’m quite impressed by Memorial.”

A growing number of workplaces now deny employees the right to smoke anywhere on their campus, including outside. Policy prohibiting the hiring of tobacco users may be the future as the country develops a deepening social intolerance of smoking, said Jay Collum, coordinator of tobacco education and control at the Chattanooga-Hamilton County Health Department.

“Especially in a tobacco-growing state in the Southeast, this is a huge change in mindset and positioning, but we’re really behind the curve in our area,” he said.

For others, this step is a slippery slope. Some are concerned about the potential for hiring restrictions based on other unhealthy — but entirely legal — behaviors.

Tobacco-control researcher Dr. Michael Siegel, a professor at the Boston University School of Public Health, said he’s an avid proponent of education on the dangers of tobacco use, but he believes policies about not hiring tobacco users amount to discrimination.

Twenty-six states have laws prohibiting such a policy, according to a report he co-wrote last year in the journal Tobacco Control.

“The same rationale that would support not hiring smokers would also support not hiring people who are obese or people who have young children or people who don’t eat nutritious food or people who don’t exercise,” he said. “What it’s basically saying is the private behavior of people in their own homes is somehow relevant to their qualifications to work in a workplace.”

Dr. Siegel worries that if many large employers refuse to hire smokers, tobacco users — those arguably in the greatest need of health care — will struggle to gain employment and health insurance.

“WON’T BE THE LAST”

For smoker Mike Sullivan, an ICU nurse at Memorial, the new rule doesn’t come as a surprise.

“They’re not the first company to do that, and they won’t be the last,” he said.

Mr. Sullivan has smoked on-and-off for more than 30 years, quitting countless times and always going back to the habit.

Mr. Sullivan, 53, said in less than two years he’ll be eligible for retirement, and he’d hoped to come back and work part time at Memorial after retiring. But now, that would mean he’d have to kick the habit for good.

“I really think it would be a good incentive” finally to quit, he said.

This year for the first time, new recruits for the Chattanooga Fire Department can’t be smokers, a decision the city hopes will bring both savings in insurance costs and improvement in firefighters’ health.

“The main thing is to keep a healthier employee. We get ’em for 25 to 30 years or longer, and we want them to be healthy throughout their life while they’re here, as well as when they retire,” said Chief Randy Parker.

Costs and productivity consideration have led many employers nationwide, including the Chattanooga Times Free Press, to raise health insurance premiums for employees who use tobacco products and experiment with other programs to encourage wellness and help workers quit using tobacco, said Ron Harr, senior vice president of human resources and public affairs for BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee.

“There is absolutely an increased interest by our customers in anything they can do that makes their employee group healthier and reduces their insurance risk,” he said.

He had not heard of any other employers in the state actually ruling out smokers as job applicants, he said.

The average smoker costs his or her employer $2,500 to $4,000 more each year in health care costs, compared with a nonsmoker, said Cathy Taylor, assistant health commissioner for the Tennessee Department of Health.

Nationally, smoking is responsible for an estimated $96 billion in direct medical costs and $97 billion in lost productivity annually, according to estimates from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Some are optimistic that there will be little resistance to heightened restrictions for smokers. When Hutcheson Medical Center’s campus went smoke-free last year, Dr. Baleeiro recalled that some were concerned about a negative backlash, but that never happened.

The same is true with Georgia’s partial smoking ban that passed in 2005, prohibiting smoking in most public places, he said. Tennessee passed a similar ban in 2007.

“They thought restaurants would go out of business; bars would close, and none of that happened,” he said. “I think (Memorial’s new rule) is going to be an interesting experiment to see how that’s going to be taken in the community.”
 
Make sure you take the poll asking if you think it is discriminatory. :cool2:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/polls/2010/jan/discriminatory/
 
If he was really interested in health issues, he would only hire those people who have done a complete detox, have all their mercury fillings removed, and do not eat wheat or dairy. Then he might actually get some healthy people with fewer problems.
 
I have some mercury fillings since I was very young...and this is not good ; the mercury is still active I understand.
I've been doing the detox for the last 3 years, does that mean I am not detoxing?
 
andi said:
I have some mercury fillings since I was very young...and this is not good ; the mercury is still active I understand.
I've been doing the detox for the last 3 years, does that mean I am not detoxing?

I too still have three myself in my molars. I've had one replaced already because it came loose and it cost me a root canal and a crown because there wasn't enough left of the tooth afterwards. :cry:

From what I can see tho this is typical and unfortunately it looks as if I'll have to someday work on getting rid of the others. Here is a thread that has a lot of info on mercury fillings. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7765.0
 
andi said:
I have some mercury fillings since I was very young...and this is not good ; the mercury is still active I understand.
I've been doing the detox for the last 3 years, does that mean I am not detoxing?

If you still have mercury fillings it does mean that you still have an important source of toxins.

Since you have been detoxing for the last 3 years, you have probably eliminated lots of toxins. So, if you want to go further on your detoxification, i would say that the next step is to remove your mercury fillings.
 
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If you still have mercury fillings it does mean that you still have an important source of toxins.

Since you have been detoxing for the last 3 years, you have probably eliminated lots of toxins. So, if you want to go further on your detoxification, i would say that the next step is to remove your mercury fillings.
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Yep, they have to get out of there asap ...dentist has always been expensive.
It's like a visit to the mechanic; they always find something else and you just can't ignore that you have to do them all.

Pete, let's cut a deal! I'll get them done if you get them done :cool:
 
andi said:
Pete, let's cut a deal! I'll get them done if you get them done :cool:

By the way, i am beginning that procedure next week and since i have 16 teeth with mercury fillings, my dentist told me that it is going to take between 12 to 15 months to remove all of them.
 
andi said:
andi said:
Pete, let's cut a deal! I'll get them done if you get them done :cool:

By the way, i am beginning that procedure next week and since i have 16 teeth with mercury fillings, my dentist told me that it is going to take between 12 to 15 months to remove all of them.

Dam Gandalf :scared: Thats a whole lotta dental visits! You trying to scare me out of it?! lol
 
Oh, Gandaf ...well that's good through that you decided to take-em all down... Please let as know how it goes.

That's good Pete! I shall do the same. I am due to my "beloved" cleaning sesion, and I too will ask what can be done
Thanks and will keep in touch.

Gandaf, good luck and I hope you don't get too stressed by those people dressed in white coats, wearing blue paper masks.
I hope they treat you well; I know they were giving me candy - witch is pretty ironic. :)
 
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