Protestant work culture also has some very good things, as Laura said about her education.
I agree, they have good work ethic but is based on above mentioned - fear of being unworthy or even condemed, it is mechanical not conscious, but there are always exceptions that do the work for sake of work. No wonder that capitalism originated and had fertile ground there.
I also understand your reasons Corvinus to a certain extent, but as you know we don't support/condone activity such as downloading movies or books (which is illegal in some countries). Edgitarra makes a good point that you could be shooting yourself in the foot here, and that people who put effort in for example writing a book need to make their living also. There may be exceptions, when a certain book is highly priced, but even in such a case, one can give back by sending a donation to the author, writing a review, or both.
I know that, that is why I said movies, I know some authors are surviving on their work when it comes to books and that they do not have much, to them I would pay even if not having it at the moment and paying at latter times when having. Hollywood is different thing althogether when broader picture is assesed.
Also, Corvinus, you've been rude in some of your comments (just because someone doesn't have the same opinion on a certain movie as yours, that doesn't make it so that they're 'wrong')
I was thinking about facts and directing in that way, not opinions and I did not say that he is "wrong". If that is his choice it is his choice.
I agree with what you say, Corvinus. I know you talk about something very real and hard, but you may have been aggressive with that "Have you ever been hungry from not having in life? Have you ever seen real people dying from starvation?" and what followed this.
I did not see it as agressive but it depends maybe on perception and personality, thought of it more down to a point when it comes to seeing some things are not so black and white, because someone saying about this things lightly seems to be in deep state of ignorance thinking like it is a walk in the park. So I am in a way suprised because he experienced some things firsthand and still clinges to some system beliefs.
Tell me please, corvinus, do you think you are not being used?
Of course I am and I am a slave but some things can be minimazed. Markets and other things are different story and I understand we have no choice in many things.
They can know if you steal them and they can make your life miserable. But maybe you would enjoy taking a big fine, just because you don't want to let them use you.
In my country it is different, everybody does it and nobody got fines, but I heared in some other countries they get them, but now we are in EU so things will be different in the near futur maybe. And yes I would not pay fine because I would not have from where, probably would get community service work or maybe even jail time.
es, I have been! You have a big lack of external consideration Corvinus. My family could barely manage to sustain itself, living in Romania was hard as hell. At one point we didn't have anything else to eat but bread and jam. My life wasn't easy at all.
And yes I saw real people, that didn't have nothing to eat, staying in outside in the winter.
I am sorry you experienced it, but still bit of suprised as mentioned above because it sounds like that program incorporated as a kid - be a good boy, work hard, do not steal, play by the book, be happy with less, etc... like those churchmen and priests say to people while doing 180° opposite. So I do not really feel guilty for watching a movie.
In the end it was not worth the time and energy for such trivial thing, because some do not understand others get emotional and start twisting things and it ends up running in circles like always with humans.
