So.....we decided to carefully try a Ouija board session a while ago............

[Hashhashin]

Hi Guys

I put this in COINTELPRO section because this info is to be taken with a grain of salt.

My soulmate and I decided to give it a try, her with zero experience and sceptical but still open minded and cautious, myself with a tiny bit of experience but some knowledge and an objective POV. This session was done after the meteor exploded above Russia, with the intention of finding out more information about that incident, how it relates to coming events, and if there will be a culmination or ending of these events, and if so when might that be. I took this line of questioning because I already had pre-conceived ideas of what might be coming, and also from what has been shared by the C's through Laura.

I started the session by holding my partners hands, to make a connection with her, asking those who are watching over us to protect us during this communication and to assist in directing our questions to a worthy source or if they were capable of answering we respectfully ask they answer.

I then asked any transitioning spirits to please not communicate with us as we are new and are not of the experience to be able to communicate effectively over the timeframe we allotted for this session nor were we, at that time, willing to pass on, or act upon, any information supplied. We also wanted to lines of communication to be as clear as possible.

We then closed our eyes, focused our concentration with controlled breathing, relaxed, and then placed our fingers on the planchette. Immediately again I felt a warm buzzing electric sensation in my body and head, something I previously felt when I tried Ouija by myself one time. I checked to see she was ok and felt anything after making connection with the planchette in which she responded "No, I'm good, nothing yet".

So I proceeded to ask if there was a source willing to communicate with us, if so, please indicate via the Ouija board. We waited....and waited......and the planchette moved, just the tiniest bit, but it moved, as did the candle flames. It didn't move to any letters, or numbers, just to an empty space between letters. We took this as a sign there was something willing to communicate.

I then proceeded to ask our main question, something along the lines of "Recently a meteor exploded above Russia, causing significant damage and fear, and there have been an increase in cometary events and meteors, will we see more of this type of event in the coming year?". Again, the planchette moved ever so slowly, to the letter A I think....but nothing after that. I probably should have asked the source to indicate via Yes or No, but I did not think of that at the time. Instead we pressed on.

My next question, and what was to be my final question, was "When will these events end, will there be a culmination of these events?"............

The weird thing here is, yes, I do already believe that there will be, and the C's have stated as much, as have various other sources, but this type of info is not info I share with my soulmate. I share the keto dietary stuff with her, and some of the C's proofs regarding events that have happened that they have been right about but nothing of what the future holds as we are already making life changes for the positive, with my ulterior motive being to steer us towards how the C's and Laura have advised is a better way to live.

So....I asked that question....but did not expect what happened next, and i'm curious as to why. After I finished speaking the question my wife says "Whoa!!......that was weird!!!". I asked her what happened. She excitedly, and nervously surprised, says to me "I just had images flash up in my mind, first the number 2032 and then an alignment planets". I was a bit taken aback that, firstly communication actually may have happened, and secondly that it happened through and directly to her. We decided that we should probably leave it at that for now and close the session which we did with the utmost respect for those who offered us protection and those who chose to communicate with us.

So the next day I researched the Year 2032 and planetary alignments in that year. Venus, Jupiter, Our Sun and Earth, and possibly our moon too. And the year 2032 also happens to be the end of the transition period between ages, and also happens to fall on the 13th Baktun of the Mayan Calendar, if what I read is true and correct. We also, supposedly, are going to have a very very close call with aa Asteroid 2013 TV135 that year, if the fear mongering is to be believed. So is the possible "Mini-Ice Age" by the year 2030...again very close to 2032.

Before this session I had no idea about the year 2032 and it's possible importance, and again I still take the info with a grain of salt, but it was interesting and maybe worthy of note. Maybe.

Thank you for your time, I hope this read was, at least, somewhat enjoyable.
rgds
Ryan

 

[Arwenn]

Hi Guys

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So I proceeded to ask if there was a source willing to communicate with us, if so, please indicate via the Ouija board. We waited....and waited......and the planchette moved, just the tiniest bit, but it moved, as did the candle flames. It didn't move to any letters, or numbers, just to an empty space between letters. We took this as a sign there was something willing to communicate.

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Thank you for your time, I hope this read was, at least, somewhat enjoyable.
rgds
Ryan

Hi MethodofMadness, it's a good thing that you are taking the information you got with a grain of salt. This has been attempted and discussed before on the forum. I would be extremely wary of using the board, and only if I have done exhaustive research on the topic. Have a look at this thread here, where this was attempted by some forum members without prior networking. From what I have read about this, you truly have to know yourself thoroughly (diet, awareness of your psychology and ego). It is a jungle out there, and you just don't know what type of entity you are communicating with. You might open the door to a truly nasty entity! Laura only attempted this after years of research and hard work, with a thorough grounding on spirit release and a way of discerning whether the communication was simply 'dead dudes' or truly intelligent communication from higher densities.

If you haven't already, have a read of the Wave series of books (available to buy or read online), as well as these threads and books here:
Laura - Knowledge and being videos (a MUST)
William Baldwin - Spirit Releasment Therapy
Martin Malachi- Hostage to the Devil

With regards to dates, you will find that it is a fluid thing, as the Cs often say 'The future is Open', so I would not hold to dates too much. I hope this helps somewhat, and I'm sure others will chime in with their thoughts.

 

[Joe]

With regards to dates, you will find that it is a fluid thing, as the Cs often say 'The future is Open', so I would not hold to dates too much. I hope this helps somewhat, and I'm sure others will chime in with their thoughts.

Yeah, the prediction thing is really problematic as the Cs have noted, which is also the reason they are more or less unable to give very specific dates on definite events. Asking when something will end, definitively on this planet is like asking "what will I do tomorrow". The answer obviously has to be "it depends".

 

[Persej]

Well, I would say that beside reading the recommended books and topics, and watching Laura's K&B videos, and doing a spirit release, and finding a good partner for channeling (which your soulmate isn't since she is not aware of the info that we share on this forum), another thing that seems to be important before doing any kind of experimentation with the board is removal of the parasites in your body since they can be a receivers of negative information.

A: The parasites act as receivers.

Q: (Pierre) Yeah. The parasites act as receivers. So when you are full of parasites, you are more under the influence of bad waves, or waves sent by bad entities. You're more susceptible to those messages. There's a bad influence on you beyond the parasites.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,39067.0.html

 

[Hashhashin]

Thanks for all of your responses. I absolutely take this info with a grain of salt, and yes I too am aware that dates are fluid, and knew as much even when asking the question. I completely allow for this info to also be disinfo.....given to us to try and generate fear so they have lunch. We certainly were aware of the risks and also looked for any signs days after the session to see if anything negative was hanging around by gauging our, and our childrens, moods, dreams and behaviour.

In terms of who I choose to do this with, I honestly couldn't imagine myself doing this without my other half, she completes me and I feel that my connection would be lowered/lessened without her assistance (as mentioned I tried it once alone with no real success except the buzzing electrical energy I felt from touching the planchette, which again could have been a negative entity trying to trick me) so I guess that means I need to get her reading all this material too and on the forum so she can do this properly, if she is so inclined. Other things have happened with her that give me the impression that she may be a natural with this type of thing so yes it is probably in her interests to read everything we throw at her.

Thanks again for all your responses, I will monitor this thread and take everything said on board with gratitude. She is interested in this so I think she might pursue it. Thanks for the links, reading material and warnings....they are well noted.

 

[cubbex]

At least two paths you may expect, both hardcore in nature.

1) If you channel the wrong entity you will probably suffer in one way.
2) If you channel the right entity you might expect

Now, that date has also been marked by science as the close date Artificial Intelligence will be build. Michio Kaku thinks so. And if the end of days is in that year, thank god, this gives me time to do things. But let's see, at the end of the day it doesn't matter the day, but the awareness that comes from it.

 

[casper]

I honestly believe that with these things is not good to play without knowledge
and I do not support " learning " without a very good preparedness, I think you are are playing with fire.

 

[Hashhashin]

At least two paths you may expect, both hardcore in nature.

1) If you channel the wrong entity you will probably suffer in one way.
2) If you channel the right entity you might expect

Now, that date has also been marked by science as the close date Artificial Intelligence will be build. Michio Kaku thinks so. And if the end of days is in that year, thank god, this gives me time to do things. But let's see, at the end of the day it doesn't matter the day, but the awareness that comes from it.

As mentioned, we went into this without expectations, and we mean to pay that date no more attention than if it were to breeze through mainstream media for a moment before disappearing into the abyss of useless doom porn dates. The coincidences are, of course, interesting nonetheless.

I honestly believe that with these things is not good to play without knowledge
and I do not support " learning " without a very good preparedness, I think you are are playing with fire.

When I say 'some knowledge' I have read parts of the Wave series, I have watched the knowledge and being videos of Laura a while ago but definitely will rewatch as a refresher, and I have read plenty of material to know this is NOT something you do lightly, and if you do it the act of doing so needs to be taken seriously even if the info you receive isn't going to be.

I cannot help but want to pursue, learn, and engage in this activity, it is very interesting and has been for a very very long time. I wholly agree with you, I consider it playing with fire, but I only intend on, to continue with your analogy, observing the flame, holding my hand above the flame to feel the heat, and maybe run my finger through it a couple of times. I do not intend on setting that piece of paper on fire, or adding fuel to it to see how big I can get it. Maybe in another few years time after more careful study and micro-experimentation.

What I can say with absolute certainty is that at no time will I act upon any information received, and all our small sessions will be reported here for review, analysis and dissection, if that is at all possible.

 

[Jenn]

I cannot help but want to pursue, learn, and engage in this activity, it is very interesting and has been for a very very long time. I wholly agree with you, I consider it playing with fire, but I only intend on, to continue with your analogy, observing the flame, holding my hand above the flame to feel the heat, and maybe run my finger through it a couple of times. I do not intend on setting that piece of paper on fire, or adding fuel to it to see how big I can get it. Maybe in another few years time after more careful study and micro-experimentation.

What I can say with absolute certainty is that at no time will I act upon any information received, and all our small sessions will be reported here for review, analysis and dissection, if that is at all possible.

MethodOfMadness I think it's probably for the best if you take a few years to study and then make a decision on it and I agree with the advice you've already received. Afterall you may not intend to set the paper on fire, but it may actually catch alight and it wouldn't just be you that could get hurt.

If you were really interested in visiting the Amazon rainforest, would you go there without knowledge of all the poisonous plants, spiders, animals, insects, knowledge of first aid, a map, water? etc etc.

Another thing I find abit troubling

I need to get her reading all this material too and on the forum so she can do this properly, if she is so inclined

You have said that she 'might' be interested and have also said 'if she is so inclined', I may be wrong, but I'm getting the impression that these are just words to you, the bolded statement sounds quite forceful to me and not really respectuful of her free-will. Maybe I am just projecting, but it seems like you are pushing this stuff on her and putting your needs before hers, because it's what you want to do and because you can't do it properly without her

Without your wife having knowledge of this stuff you are essentially offering her (and yourself) up on a plate. I assume that she is trusting you here, and with a lack of kowledge you aren't in a position to protect yourself let alone her.

It may also be worth listening to this old Sott podcast on Channeling and Exorcism on this site: http://www.sott.net/podcasts/listall?page=5
it's at the bottom of page 5. This thread is an example of spirit board gone wrong- http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,37795.msg567264.html#msg567264

Stay safe MethodOfMadness

 

[Keyhole]

I cannot help but want to pursue, learn, and engage in this activity, it is very interesting and has been for a very very long time.

MethodOfMadness, from what you have said I get a strong impression that you are either coercing your partner into this, or that she is accepting without her being wholly aware of the possible repercussions and consequences of these actions. From what I can see, your wife is placing her trust in you, and you are abusing that trust through your ignorance. I don't mean for that to sound harsh, but this is what it appears like to me. I think it would be best if you could take a step back, and before practicing this any further, and carefully read the Wave books.

In terms of who I choose to do this with, I honestly couldn't imagine myself doing this without my other half, she completes me and I feel that my connection would be lowered/lessened without her assistance (as mentioned I tried it once alone with no real success except the buzzing electrical energy I felt from touching the planchette, which again could have been a negative entity trying to trick me) so I guess that means I need to get her reading all this material too and on the forum so she can do this properly, if she is so inclined. Other things have happened with her that give me the impression that she may be a natural with this type of thing so yes it is probably in her interests to read everything we throw at her.

What is also important is that "throwing" information at someone is actually a breach of free-will, and if anything, decreases the chances of that person responding to the information. In other words, forcing information on others will make them less likely to be interested, and myself and others here can attest to from personal experience.

At the end of the day, the message is pretty clear cut, messing around with this type of thing can ruin someones life. Whether you have read some material on it or not, what you may not have considered is that Laura etc have spent many, many years reading all possible material they could get hold of on this subject, coupled with gaining knowledge of every other aspect of our reality and developing a certain level of awareness that could act as protection. The work that went into preparing for the C's transmission and "grooving the channel" so to speak was no walk in the park, from what I understand. It is useful to remember this when attempting to experiment with this kind of stuff.

If you are not bothered about protecting yourself from these potential negative forces, then at least do it for your partner's safety. After all, if you do truly care for your soulmate, you will take heed of these warnings and stop what you are doing right now. Look after yourself, and read all of these posts carefully MethodOfMadness, as this is no overexaggeration.

 

[Hashhashin]

Yeh, everything said above is fair. And no, I am not coercing her or forcing her down this path, I do understand the dangers of forcing someone to do something like that, and of course the repercussions of abridging someones freewill. That is not me, and this is the person I love, and of course we will not continue if she is not interested in reading the appropriate material and acquiring the knowledge needed to do this activity super safely. It's one of the reasons we've not done any since, but she was interested in doing it again so she might be interested in doing the necessary groundwork to do it properly. I need to reiterate though because I feel bad, I'm not the kind of person to force the issue so I am a little disappointed that my phrasing/word choice has given that impression, but I can see how it can be read that way.

Anyway back to more reading, living, giving and loving! And no more channeling. Thank you all for your valued input. It is highly appreciated.

 

[Keyhole]

Yeh, everything said above is fair. And no, I am not coercing her or forcing her down this path, I do understand the dangers of forcing someone to do something like that, and of course the repercussions of abridging someones freewill. That is not me, and this is the person I love, and of course we will not continue if she is not interested in reading the appropriate material and acquiring the knowledge needed to do this activity super safely. It's one of the reasons we've not done any since, but she was interested in doing it again so she might be interested in doing the necessary groundwork to do it properly. I need to reiterate though because I feel bad, I'm not the kind of person to force the issue so I am a little disappointed that my phrasing/word choice has given that impression, but I can see how it can be read that way.

Sorry if I didn't phrase this clearly, but what I originally meant by the word "repercussions" was actually not relating to the breach of free-will, but rather the consequence of picking up spirit-attachments through the use of a Ouija board. If you have watched the K&B videos then you are probably aware of the dangers, but is your partner aware?

And if not, then do you think that your partner would actually want to participate in such an activity if she were aware of the dangers?

Also MethodOfMadness, what do you think constitutes "reading the appropriate material and acquiring the knowledge needed to do this activity super safely"?

 

[patty2292]

From your introduction post:

And that's where I stand. I believe, don't get me wrong, but I just need to 'experience' some more of this for myself. Chakras, Crystals, Channelling, Ouija Boards....it all interests me and I certainly hold stock in the 'other side' but I don't want to just read this any more, I want to experience it.

Going off what has been previously said MethodOfMadness, what 'material' have you been reading yourself regarding this specific topic?

Have you, as was advised 3 years ago in your intro post, read the Wave Series and the other recommended reading material by Laura yet?
This includes a vast array of topics that coincide with the Cassiopaea transcripts and will give a wider perspective of what has been going on. The way you are coming across, atleast to me anyway, is that you want to by-pass any of the knowledge that is needed and adviced and jump in at the deep end thinking that you can handle it all.

I think it is very narcissistic of you to go about the use of the board the way that you have described. Your basically saying, screw the fire... I cant/wont get burnt. Have you read any of the recommended Narcissistic Big Five books?
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33092.0.html

Why don't you want to just read about it anymore? I mean come on, if its a topic of great interest to you (which is totally acceptable), then you should want to acquire all the knowledge and information there is about this stuff. And if you did gain some of this knowledge, it would prevent you from damaging yourself and your loved ones. Possibly changing your mind and the need to do it yourself directly.

Your partner may be inclined to participate in this activity because you are MethodOfMadness... And you might be projecting onto her your own interest and wishes.

Other things have happened with her that give me the impression that she may be a natural with this type of thing so yes it is probably in her interests to read everything we throw at her

In her interest? Really? Or would it be in YOUR interest for her to read what you throw at her?

We certainly were aware of the risks and also looked for any signs days after the session to see if anything negative was hanging around by gauging our, and our childrens, moods, dreams and behaviour.

Your actually doing this activity with your children present, or in the house while you do it? Is that even worth, as a parent, the risk? So you knew afew potential risks; mood/dream/behavior changes in you and your children... But still carried on regardless?

 

[rs]

At least two paths you may expect, both hardcore in nature.

1) If you channel the wrong entity you will probably suffer in one way.
2) If you channel the right entity you might expect

Now, that date has also been marked by science as the close date Artificial Intelligence will be build. Michio Kaku thinks so. And if the end of days is in that year, thank god, this gives me time to do things. But let's see, at the end of the day it doesn't matter the day, but the awareness that comes from it.

As mentioned, we went into this without expectations, and we mean to pay that date no more attention than if it were to breeze through mainstream media for a moment before disappearing into the abyss of useless doom porn dates. The coincidences are, of course, interesting nonetheless.

Actually, that is not quite true.

My soulmate and I decided to give it a try, her with zero experience and sceptical but still open minded and cautious, myself with a tiny bit of experience but some knowledge and an objective POV. This session was done after the meteor exploded above Russia, with the intention of finding out more information about that incident, how it relates to coming events, and if there will be a culmination or ending of these events, and if so when might that be. I took this line of questioning because I already had pre-conceived ideas of what might be coming, and also from what has been shared by the C's through Laura.

You were not on an objective search for truth by your own admission and this ultimately colors any result.

 

[lilyalic]

Speaking from experience, I suggest you really DON'T do the Ouija board again. Yes it seems exciting at first, especially if you're getting "feedback" - but whatever you are dealing with could be saying anything to keep you on that board, or going back to the board, so you're an easier target for attachments and god knows what else!

When I did this, "things" started talking to me in the night when I was trying to sleep, I literally heard voices and many bad things happened after that (Although I could not quite see it at the time)

If you're looking to release spirit attachments, either find an experienced psychic who can do this for you, or do what the rest of us are doing and continue working on yourself and doing what "it" doesn't want to do! - slow process of getting rid of any attachments but it's worth it, and like I said, doing the Ouija board is NOT worth it.

When I say 'some knowledge' I have read parts of the Wave series, I have watched the knowledge and being videos of Laura a while ago but definitely will rewatch as a refresher, and I have read plenty of material to know this is NOT something you do lightly, and if you do it the act of doing so needs to be taken seriously even if the info you receive isn't going to be.

If you re-watch the K&B videos, you'll find that Laura basically says DON'T DO IT. I and a few friends conveniently forgotten that message and just went along with our machines.