Meager1
Dagobah Resident
I hope this isn`t just noise, though I can`t help but wonder how one would fit the old ndn legends into this Jesus mystery, or if there is a fit.
For instance, I was told that those early Mormons who`s main goal apparently was multiple wives, envied some Algonquin chiefs who had multiple wives, but these white men got much grief from other whites who were against the notion, so they simply took their many indian women, (wives) and departed from Vermont.. heading for the less populated western areas so as to keep all their young "brides" to themselves in peace.
Some ndn people laugh, and say that it was just simple "greed" for young indian women/girls, that was the real basis for forming the whole Mormon "religion".
Yet many stories are much older and speak of a "pale prophet" whom was thought to be the god of the dawn star, son of the sun, who taught many useful things, always promising to return one day. South America, Mexico etc, also shares some of these "pale god" legends.
I guess my question here, is if this pale prophet in the Americas was an Atlantean Descendant, mistaken for a god which seems very likely to me, then why would not the "Jesus legend" elsewhere be much the same thing? (even the name "Abenaki" for instance, from ancient times appears to have it`s origin on the coast of New Brunswick, with a small group of white men..who were called Abenaki, a word that actually means "the land of the whites"!)
"*The "Algonquin of the Eastern Seaboard" tell they received their name for the Dawn Light from the Pale One.
They wouldn't name the Prophet as He had asked them to do. They wanted to know what He was called where He grew up and He told them a name that was strange and hard to say. But they tried hard to say it: Chee-Zoos, God of the Dawn Light, basically the same as the Puants.
*The Chippewa remember very well the "pale Great Master." They tell He gave them medicine lodges where the signs and emblems are secret and taken from those across the ocean. And according to the author, they keep this secret to this day.
*The Dakota (Sioux) say He gave them their rite of baptism and purification, also many of their lodges. They remember Him talking about the coming of the white man and many other predictions. "We have backslid from His teachings, but to Him we dance the Sun Dance. (in other words, hangs from a tree! )
The women had a secret language among themselves.
It was not taught to captive women. Then there was the language taught in certain lodges. That was the one He taught us.
It would be interesting to study this language if this were possible, between tribe and tribe. It might tell us from whence He came to us, and how long ago He walked among us.
"In our land of Oklahoma where our plows turn the good earth, and our cattle graze on the brown hills, I have often seen His symbol among the women's work (who still weave baskets) as I ride to other camps trading. Sometimes it is woven with the Star of the Morning, or the Cross of Four Directions or the symbol for the Cedar, sacred Tree of Ceremony. "
For instance, I was told that those early Mormons who`s main goal apparently was multiple wives, envied some Algonquin chiefs who had multiple wives, but these white men got much grief from other whites who were against the notion, so they simply took their many indian women, (wives) and departed from Vermont.. heading for the less populated western areas so as to keep all their young "brides" to themselves in peace.
Some ndn people laugh, and say that it was just simple "greed" for young indian women/girls, that was the real basis for forming the whole Mormon "religion".
Yet many stories are much older and speak of a "pale prophet" whom was thought to be the god of the dawn star, son of the sun, who taught many useful things, always promising to return one day. South America, Mexico etc, also shares some of these "pale god" legends.
I guess my question here, is if this pale prophet in the Americas was an Atlantean Descendant, mistaken for a god which seems very likely to me, then why would not the "Jesus legend" elsewhere be much the same thing? (even the name "Abenaki" for instance, from ancient times appears to have it`s origin on the coast of New Brunswick, with a small group of white men..who were called Abenaki, a word that actually means "the land of the whites"!)
"*The "Algonquin of the Eastern Seaboard" tell they received their name for the Dawn Light from the Pale One.
They wouldn't name the Prophet as He had asked them to do. They wanted to know what He was called where He grew up and He told them a name that was strange and hard to say. But they tried hard to say it: Chee-Zoos, God of the Dawn Light, basically the same as the Puants.
*The Chippewa remember very well the "pale Great Master." They tell He gave them medicine lodges where the signs and emblems are secret and taken from those across the ocean. And according to the author, they keep this secret to this day.
*The Dakota (Sioux) say He gave them their rite of baptism and purification, also many of their lodges. They remember Him talking about the coming of the white man and many other predictions. "We have backslid from His teachings, but to Him we dance the Sun Dance. (in other words, hangs from a tree! )
The women had a secret language among themselves.
It was not taught to captive women. Then there was the language taught in certain lodges. That was the one He taught us.
It would be interesting to study this language if this were possible, between tribe and tribe. It might tell us from whence He came to us, and how long ago He walked among us.
"In our land of Oklahoma where our plows turn the good earth, and our cattle graze on the brown hills, I have often seen His symbol among the women's work (who still weave baskets) as I ride to other camps trading. Sometimes it is woven with the Star of the Morning, or the Cross of Four Directions or the symbol for the Cedar, sacred Tree of Ceremony. "
