Stabbings in Finland, Germany, Taiwan and Russia in two days

[Jefferson]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

Geeze, it does sound like what the Cs described, that Greenbaum types were supposed to "go off all at once"

Q: (T) OK, the question is, is the fellow that just shot three
professors in San Diego, I think it was, the University, before
they read his thesis, because he was afraid they would throw his
thesis away, and make it look bad, and flunk him. Was he a
Greenbaum?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Why did they turn him 'on' at that point?

A: Not correct concept. What if: those programmed in
the so called "Greenbaum" projects are preprogrammed to "go off"
all at once, and some "malfunction," and go off early?

This is just what I was thinking when this happened: Greenbaumed individuals who just 'go off' early/unexpectedly.

 

[Ant22]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

I just read on RT that the knife attacker in Finland was an asylum seeker from Morocco and he arrived in Finland in 2016. Now I'm wondering how many of the 6% of refugees who weren't real refugees could have been Greenbaum types?

(...)

A: Partly desperation and partly engineered. Let us say that the very real and desperate plight of refugees has been cynically utilized by nefarious agents.

Q: (Perceval) So the engineered part is to destabilize or put pressure on European governments?

A: Yes and more than that: to insert agents that will act against the various governments in the future.

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the percentage of real refugees to agents?

A: 94

Q: (L) 94 percent?

A: Yes (...)

From RT: https://www.rt.com/news/400241-truku-attack-asylum-seeker/

Turku knife attacker was asylum seeker, presumably targeted women – investigators

The suspect behind the deadly stabbing attack in the Finnish city of Turku was an 18-year-old Moroccan asylum-seeker, investigators said, adding that it seems the attacker deliberately targeted women.
“The suspect was seeking an asylum [in Finland],” Robin Lardot of the Central Bureau of Investigation said at a press conference on Saturday.

The attacker arrived in Finland in 2016, Lardot said, adding that it was not clear if the man was denied asylum.

Apart from the prime suspect, Finnish police detained four Moroccan citizens, Krista Granroth of the Central Bureau of Investigation said.

An international arrest warrant was also issued for a sixth person, she added, without disclosing the suspect’s nationality.

The suspect seems to have deliberately targeted women, Granroth said, adding that both killed were women. Four of the six injured are also women, she stated, adding that the two men who were injured seemed to be protecting the women during the attack.

Two people were killed and six injured in the stabbing attack. Police shot and injured the suspect, who is now being treated in the hospital. Police will question the suspect via an interpreter later on Saturday, the authorities added.

Both of the deceased were Finnish citizens, police said earlier, as cited by Yle. UK and Italian citizens are among those injured in the attack, police and investigators say.

Finnish authorities will not raise the security alert level following the Turku stabbing, head of Finnish Security Intelligence Service Antti Pelttari said in a statement, as cited by Yle.

Meanwhile, Finnish MTV channel reported, citing a police source, that the authorities allegedly rejected the attacker’s asylum application

 

[Ant22]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

And there's also this in Denmark, though it concerns shootings, not stabbings:

https://www.rt.com/news/399976-copenhagen-police-gang-violence/

There's been reports of shooting at a train station in Nimes, France, too:

https://sputniknews.com/news/201708191056614266-reports-shooting-train-station-france/

Civilians have been ordered to evacuate the Nimes train station following reports that one or more armed individuals are on the loose.
The railway station in the southern French city of Nimes was evacuated on Saturday evening due to the presence of one or more armed men, local media reported.

Unverified reports state that up to three suspects may have entered the train station and open fired. A police operation is currently underway to secure the stations from its state of emergency.

Locals have been asked to avoid the area by the police.

In Hong Kong the police pepper sprayed a man swinging a meat cleaver:

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201708191056613735-hong-kong-pepper-spray-somali/

On Saturday, police officials used pepper spray on a Somali asylum seeker who is suspected of attacking a Pakistani man with a meat cleaver in Yau Ma Tei, a highly urbanized area in Hong Kong, reported the South China Morning Post.
According to police officers, the Somali man became aggressive and emotional after being turned down from a prostitute in a building on Temple Street.

At around 3 pm, an armed officer in civilian clothes told the Somali man, who was threateningly carrying the cleaver, to "Drop down your knife, calm down! Drop it!"

Another officer in uniform stood by his colleague protecting him with a shield.

The assailant ignored the officer's instructions and kept swaying the weapon, while shouting, "Hit me! Hit me!"

The fellow officer with the shield then edged toward the attacker and used pepper spray to subdue him. The suspect was then sent to Kwong Wah Hospital to receive medical care.

 

[Niall]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

A: Not correct concept. What if: those programmed in
the so called "Greenbaum" projects are preprogrammed to "go off"
all at once, and some "malfunction," and go off early?

Maybe we can update, or broaden, that to:

What if those programmed in postmodernist/leftist/SJW/colour revolution projects "go off" all at once?

I'm thinking here of Antifa's global followers in particular (and other destructive sorts), but also the broader frame of 'globalist liberal empire vs nationalist conservative/populist reaction'.

ISIS may seem far from SJWs politically, but in the end, they're all 'hot poppers' agitating (whether they realize it or not) on behalf of the globalists.

 

[mkrnhr]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

ISIS may seem far from SJWs politically, but in the end, they're all 'hot poppers' agitating (whether they realize it or not) on behalf of the globalists.

Politically they're not that far away from each other. Both ISIS and SJW radicals follow the same authoritarianist framework, including the dehumanization of the other (and others' views/arguments) and the distortion of reality, to achieve a top-down globalist utopia.

 

[angelburst29]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

A: Not correct concept. What if: those programmed in
the so called "Greenbaum" projects are preprogrammed to "go off"
all at once, and some "malfunction," and go off early?

Maybe we can update, or broaden, that to:

What if those programmed in postmodernist/leftist/SJW/colour revolution projects "go off" all at once?

I'm thinking here of Antifa's global followers in particular (and other destructive sorts), but also the broader frame of 'globalist liberal empire vs nationalist conservative/populist reaction'.

ISIS may seem far from SJWs politically, but in the end, they're all 'hot poppers' agitating (whether they realize it or not) on behalf of the globalists.

I never came across a group called Refuse Fascism before but according to this article, they met today (August 19) to plan large scale rallies for September 4th - which is a Monday but also Labor Day. If this group gets it's way, those of us in the U.S. may see our very own "Ukraine Maiden?"

“Refuse Fascism” Communists Meet to Plan November Sedition, Riots to End Trump-Pence “Regime”
_http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/refuse-fascism-communists-meet-plan-november-sedition-riots-end-trump-pence-regime/205750#more-205750

Also here: _http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/communists-trump-pence-regime-08192017

Today, groups of people with communist leanings who intend to overthrow the United States government will be meeting in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Austin for “regional conferences,” which makes it sound like they’re a bunch of dentists of something.

But they’re not. The group, called Refuse Fascism, plans to use any means necessary to end the Trump-Pence “regime.”

Their plan is unrelenting chaos in the streets.

Today’s meeting is meant to organize the most massive protest across the country that has ever been seen in our history, forgetting that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Their plan is to see anywhere from thousands to millions of people rioting protesting in the streets on November 4th.

“Over the summer and into the Fall we must ACT, AGITATE and ORGANIZE and build the capacity and the momentum “working with all our creativity and determination toward the time when millions of people can be moved to fill the streets of cities and towns day after day and night after night, declaring this whole regime illegitimate – Demanding, and Not Stopping, Until the Trump/Pence Regime Is Driven from Power.” (source)

Who’s funding this?

Refuse Fascism is a project of the Alliance for Global Justice. This is noted on their website where they ask for donations. (Obviously, I’m not recommending you donate. I’m just quoting this to show you where their bread gets buttered.)

To support our educational activities and make a tax-deductible donation by mail, make your check out to Alliance for Global Justice” (our fiscal sponsor; you can use the abbreviation AFGJ), designate Refuse Fascism in the memo and mail to the address above. RefuseFascism.org is a fiscally sponsored project of the Alliance for Global Justice, a registered 501(c)3. (source)

According to The Daily Caller:

…the benefactors of the Alliance for Global Justice — and Refuse Fascism — are listed online.

According to its most recent 990 tax form, Alliance for Global Justice (AfGJ) received $2.2 million in funding for the fiscal year ending in March 2016.

One of the group’s biggest donors is the Tides Foundation, a non-profit funded by billionaire progressive philanthropist George Soros. Tides gave AfGJ $50,000. (Comment: The Tide Foundation is managed by John Kerry's wife.)

 

[Gawan]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

A: Not correct concept. What if: those programmed in
the so called "Greenbaum" projects are preprogrammed to "go off"
all at once, and some "malfunction," and go off early?

Maybe we can update, or broaden, that to:

What if those programmed in postmodernist/leftist/SJW/colour revolution projects "go off" all at once?

I'm thinking here of Antifa's global followers in particular (and other destructive sorts), but also the broader frame of 'globalist liberal empire vs nationalist conservative/populist reaction'.

ISIS may seem far from SJWs politically, but in the end, they're all 'hot poppers' agitating (whether they realize it or not) on behalf of the globalists.

I thought in a similar direction when I heard about other demonstrations in the USA, Germany and Spain for example that it could be used or where people could go off. And in the end both "organizations" are extreme no matter what flag they are carrying, beside ISIS stated some times after knife attacks that it was one of their men, but in the end from wherever the info is coming of who did it, doesn't really matter because the media/powers that be would use any name to suit their purpose of divide and conquer.

Also what I noticed and goes in the direction of what Ant with the 6% wrote that many knife attackers have a foreign background, but must not be exclusively new refugees and could be for a longer time in each country since the USA fights since for a long time wars in the middle east and is most likely that many could be greenbaumed since the beginning.

 

[treesparrow]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

What I've noticed recently is the increasing number of horrific acid attacks in the UK, particularly in London. Probably nothing to do with Greenbaum types 'going off' early and perhaps a reflection of societal breakdown and of some individuals 'losing it' or/and low grade psychopaths becoming more embolden. The last 2 to 3 years has seen a sharp rise in such incidents, details below -

Acid horror Acid attacks in the UK – where have the latest incidents happened and how many have there been in London?


There has been an alarming spike in corrosive liquids being used to attack victims, with horrific consequences
ACID attacks have swept across London, with victims left permanently scarred by the cruel attack method.

But as police work to crackdown on the perpetrators, we take a look at where the attacks have unfolded, and what to do if you are targeted.

Where are acid attacks being carried out?

London has emerged as a hot spot for acid attacks in recent years, with more than half of the UK’s acid attacks taking place in the capital.

The number of cases more than doubled from less than 200 in 2014 to 431 in 2016, with Scotland Yard focusing on specific parts of the city.

Newham, in East London, had three times more acid attacks than the next highest borough, with almost 400 of London’s 1,500 reports over the last five years happening there.

The borough – which includes Stratford’s Olympic Park but also more deprived areas such as West Ham, Plaistow and Forest Gate – sits next door to Hackney where some of the latest spree was carried out.

East London neighbour Barking and Dagenham was the second biggest hot spot, whereas wealthier areas such as Kensington and Chelsea had the lowest level of attacks.

Areas such as the West Midlands and Essex have also seen large rises in acid attacks in recent years as reports have soared from 340 in 2014 to 843.

Where have the most recent attacks taken place?

Monday June 19 Towie star Ferne McCann’s ex-lover Arthur Collins denied carrying out an acid attack in a nightclub in Dalston, East London, which left two revellers partially blinded.

Wednesday June 21 Two cousins were allegedly doused in acid while sitting in their car in Beckton, East London, on June 21.

Tuesday, July 4 A heavily pregnant woman reportedly had acid thrown over her baby bump while her partner suffered injuries to his face in an alleged attack in East London.

Thursday July 13 A 16-year-old boy who was arrested in connection with a horrific spate of five acid attacks across London is charged with 15 offences.

Friday July 14 A biker reportedly had a “noxious substance” thrown in his face during a failed bid to steal his bike in Dagenham.

Sunday July 16 A female paramedic was said to have had chemicals thrown in her face by masked thugs as she responded to a 999 call in Ferry Lane, Tottenham Hale.

Tuesday July 18 Police were hunting a thug allegedly caught on CCTV hurling cleaning fluid into a face of a drinker outside The Chalice pub in Dickens Heath, near Solihull, West Mids.

Tuesday July 25 Witnesses described the desperate screams of two young men who were targeted in what is believed to be an acid attack in Bethnal Green, East London, with a man since charged

Monday July 31 Shocking footage shows a moped gang fleeing and being chased by shoppers after a suspected acid attack outside Harrods in London.

Tuesday August 8 Jealous schoolgirl Emily Bowen, 18, was jailed for 21 months after pouring drain cleaner into fellow orchestra member Molly Young’s viola case in an attack which left her scarred for life.

Tuesday August 8 A man had to be hosed down by firefighters after a suspected acid attack just yards from Kensington Palace.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4016850/acid-attacks-uk-latest-incidents-london/

London police given 1,000 acid response kits after surge in attacks

Fire brigade to attend calls alongside police to help treat victims, as services step up action on crimes involving corrosive liquids

Holly Watt

Monday 24 July 2017 18.26 BST

Police officers in London are being issued with 1,000 acid attack response kits after a rise in the number of crimes involving corrosive liquids. Rapid response police cars will now carry the kits, which include protective gear and five-litre bottles of water, to allow officers to give immediate treatment to victims sprayed with acid.

The London fire brigade will respond alongside police, because the service is able to provide large volumes of water rapidly. Pouring water over a victim can help prevent further damage to skin, but speed is critical.

Police in east London will also carry kits to allow them to test for acid and other corrosive liquids. At the moment it is not illegal to carry such substances, meaning that police have to show there is intent to cause harm.

Stephen Timms, the Labour MP for East Ham, has called for carrying acid to be made a crime. Criminals who carry out acid attacks can be prosecuted for grievous bodily harm and jailed for life.

A number of attacks have taken place in east London recently, particularly in Newham. At the moment, police cars in east London carry the attack response kits, but they will now be rolled out to all cars in the capital.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan police said the force was working closely with the London fire brigade, the ambulance service, the Home Office and hospitals on how to deal with the issue.

Acting Det Supt Mike West, the Met’s lead officer for corrosive-based crime, told the Evening Standard: “These are life-changing injuries. While the volumes in comparison with knife and gun crime are small, the injuries are a life sentence for victims.

“I am confident that we are stepping up our response to this crime and we are looking for a safer way to identify some of the substances on the streets. So you might be walking down the street with what appears to be a bottle of Lucozade, but officers will now be testing you to establish what is in that bottle.”

A London fire brigade spokesperson said: “Our firefighters are specialists in dealing with a full range of incidents involving hazardous materials. If our crews are called to the scene and someone is suffering from the affects of a corrosive substance, we will assist our colleagues from the London ambulance service and Metropolitan police in treating the casualty, primarily by helping to flush the affected area with copious amounts of water.”

The number of crimes involving acid or other “noxious substances” has more than doubled in London over the past three years. In 2016, there were 455 crimes in the city where a corrosive substance was used or threatened to be used.

Experts have linked the rise in acid attacks to a crackdown on knives and guns, saying street gangs have started using corrosive substances because they are more readily available.

Police say there is anecdotal evidence that young criminals are carrying acid following legislation introduced in 2015 that means an immediate jail term for a repeat offence of carrying a knife.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/24/london-acid-attacks-police-given-1000-emergency-response-kits

People once used knives, now acid is a weapon of choice in the U.K.
By Jesse Ferreras National Online Journalist Global News

For just under three years, Andreas Christopheros has lived with regret that he ever decided to open his door.

The resident of Truro, a coastal town in southwestern England, was home in December 2014 when he heard a knock, believing it was a courier bringing Christmas presents.

He opened the door to a stranger, who said, “this is for you, mate” while throwing sulphuric acid in his face.

The attack left him blind in one eye, with burns that would force 90 per cent of his face to be reconstructed.

“My T-shirt disintegrated from top to bottom, it just rolled away into nothing,” he said.

“Not having eyelids has probably been the most torturous thing that I’ve been through.”

The attack on Christopheros was a case of mistaken identity, he said. The assailant came to his home with the intent of attacking someone who he thought had sexually assaulted a family member, but went to the wrong place.

The attacker was sentenced to life in prison — a sentence that, on appeal, was reduced to 16 years, with a chance of parole after eight.

Christopheros is one of a growing number of victims of acid attacks, which have been happening with such frequency in the U.K. that they’re being compared to the way people used to use knives.

There were over 500 acid attacks in London alone last year, up from 300 in 2014, city police said.

“We see a shift perhaps in the style in using acid as opposed to knives, which has been popular thus far,” Simon Harding, a criminologist at Middlesex University London, told Global News.

Acid attacks used to be associated more closely with domestic abuse cases, but most that take place in England now involve robberies. And most of the victims are men.

“It appears that acid throwing has been picked up by urban street gangs as part of their repertoire,” Harding said.

There are calls now for tougher punishments for acid attacks.

Stephen Timms, the MP for England’s East Ham riding, has said that carrying acid should be an offence “in exactly the same way that carrying a knife today is an offence.”

But experts aren’t so certain. Acid can be found in common household cleaners, some of which are 96 per cent corrosive.

“You’re always going to have something under the kitchen sink, and unless we’re going to end up with everybody having to clean out their toilets with lemon juice, what are you going to do?” said Marina Fitzgerald with the University of Kent.

Christopheros hopes that stiffer punishments can be implemented.

“I strongly believe that the sentencing for anyone who carries out any form of acid attack, whether their intended victim is injured badly or not, should serve a life sentence, with a minimum term of 20 or more years,” he said.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3656689/acid-attacks-uk/

 

[Mari]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

Hello everybody,

In the last couple of days there has been 3 reported rape attempts by immigrants in Zagreb, Croatia.
Media fairly reports about those; the president and politicians and police - all stay more or less quiet; in fact police reports less sex offenses.

I couldn't find reports in English but here are articles in Croatian:

• 15.8. - http://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/crna-kronika/trazitelj-azila-iz-afganistana-napao-zenu-u-zagrebackim-dugavama---485907.html
  immigrant from Afghanistan attacked the woman (40) with a knife and tried to rape her; thanks to the neighours reaction, the men escaped but it was found later by the police
• 20.8. - https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/djevojka-silovanje-javni-zahod-trazitelj-azila-marokanac-1189496
  immigrant form Morocco attacked the woman (19) in shopping center in Zagreb
• 21.8. - https://m.24sata.hr/news/treci-napad-na-zene-u-zagrebu-uhvatio-me-je-za-grudi-i-ruku-536633
  another sexual harassment reported by a woman who saw the previous cases so she reported her case where an immigrant from Iraq also harassed her sometime end of July; the man was already deported from Austria because of sex crimes/attempts

They were all caught, but I don't think that something will happen to them, like deportation or prison.
If they get prison, it would be 1 year max....
There was ongoing trend presented to all during the last year that Zagreb is one of the safest cities in Europe. So much for safety...
:(


Greetings,
Marija

p.s.
Croatian people in this country are being treated as strangers and "lower" people; in last 5 years there is massive trend of leaving Croatia - number of people left is the size of a smaller city, last year almost 56000 to Germany only!!! Still don't know the numbers from i.e. Ireland where moved like all Eastern part of Croatia (from parts of Slavonija i Baranja).
People are being thrown out of their homes because the enforcement laws (hope that is the correct term) and then left homeless, but immigrants are welcome to stay in hotels for free + other privileges.
So, now we have the case that western countries are returning immigrants back to us/eastern countries, while at the same time Croats (also Serbs, Bosnians, Romanians,....) are moving out of their countries to the west.

 

[Alana]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

This morning in France:

1 dead after car crashes in to Marseille bus shelters

Police have arrested a driver following an incident in the old port area of Marseille in which one person died after a car crashed into two bus shelters.
In a statement from police, the public have been asked to avoid the area of Boulevard Charles Livon.

Another person was injured, according to police.

“At the moment we have no information on the motives of this individual [the driver],” a police source told Reuters.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

 

[aragorn]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

On the Finnish front, the authorities are now saying that they want to put the new surveillance law on the 'fast track' for approval. "They" have been drooling to get this law approved, but so far most parties have been against it. Besides, to get it through, they need to make changes to the constitution, because it will violate some of the basic individual rights of citizens. But now, voila, almost all parties are in favor!

Right now I'm thinking, that "they" are just taking and using this opportunity that has arisen from this terror attack. Or, they are doing this just for show, like: "See, we're gonna solve this, and make things safer".

However, this could also have been planned and orchestrated, after all. Because, as I see it, it would be very difficult for "them" to get other parties to accept changes in the constitution, so...the fastest way would be a "new Pearl Harbor"-kind of thing (on a smaller scale, of course). "They" have tried to get more approval by propagating the usual nonsense about "hate speech" and "Russian trolls", but so far without much effect.

The Finnish politicians are however such vassals and jerks, that I don't think they would come up with something like this on their own. If I continue with the tinfoil hat on, I think that it's more probable that the CIA has said something like: "Okay, we've been saying to you guys for a long time that you need to get more powers to surveil and restrict your citizens! These Finnish dissidents are ruining our propaganda efforts all the time. So, now we've organized a little "help" for you, and there's more to come if you can't get your act together!"

I'm not too familiar with the details of this new surveillance law, but it seems that it will basically be the old stripping away of 'habeas corpus', giving the authorities the right to surveil (also internet traffic), open snail mail etc., without the target being accused of anything. This could lead to problems.

Another thing I'm observing, is that since the attacks in Turku, many of my acquaintances on FB are now eagerly posting articles about how "science is always right", "alternative sources/theories are not to be trusted", "because you're no expert, you can't have an opinion of X, you need to listen to the (e.g. medical) authorities (e.g. on diet)". As I was thinking about this today, I came to the conclusion that these authoritarian-follower types, as they get scared by events like this, need to comfort themselves by believing even stronger in the authorities – the government/authorities will save you! And to ease their cognitive dissonance (since this shouldn't be happening in their comfy world), they want to post articles like this to get everyone to agree that yes, the authorities are omnipotent and know how to keep us safe.

Right now I'm keeping a low profile, not engaging in any discussion with these people. Things might get ugly, and you don't want to feel the fury of an ignorant authoritarian-follower who's brain is not functioning! ;)

 

[Gawan]

Re: Random Stabbings in Turku, Finland

So it's probably individual case of someone "going off". Curiously there was knife episode in Germany today also: https://www.rt.com/news/400149-germany-wuppertal-knife-attack/

Maybe something in the air so to speak...

One day later there was another knife attack in the same city and luckily only one person got injured and survived it.

On the Finnish front, the authorities are now saying that they want to put the new surveillance law on the 'fast track' for approval. "They" have been drooling to get this law approved, but so far most parties have been against it. Besides, to get it through, they need to make changes to the constitution, because it will violate some of the basic individual rights of citizens. But now, voila, almost all parties are in favor!

Right now I'm thinking, that "they" are just taking and using this opportunity that has arisen from this terror attack. Or, they are doing this just for show, like: "See, we're gonna solve this, and make things safer".

However, this could also have been planned and orchestrated, after all. Because, as I see it, it would be very difficult for "them" to get other parties to accept changes in the constitution, so...the fastest way would be a "new Pearl Harbor"-kind of thing (on a smaller scale, of course). "They" have tried to get more approval by propagating the usual nonsense about "hate speech" and "Russian trolls", but so far without much effect.

The Finnish politicians are however such vassals and jerks, that I don't think they would come up with something like this on their own. If I continue with the tinfoil hat on, I think that it's more probable that the CIA has said something like: "Okay, we've been saying to you guys for a long time that you need to get more powers to surveil and restrict your citizens! These Finnish dissidents are ruining our propaganda efforts all the time. So, now we've organized a little "help" for you, and there's more to come if you can't get your act together!"

I'm not too familiar with the details of this new surveillance law, but it seems that it will basically be the old stripping away of 'habeas corpus', giving the authorities the right to surveil (also internet traffic), open snail mail etc., without the target being accused of anything. This could lead to problems.

Another thing I'm observing, is that since the attacks in Turku, many of my acquaintances on FB are now eagerly posting articles about how "science is always right", "alternative sources/theories are not to be trusted", "because you're no expert, you can't have an opinion of X, you need to listen to the (e.g. medical) authorities (e.g. on diet)". As I was thinking about this today, I came to the conclusion that these authoritarian-follower types, as they get scared by events like this, need to comfort themselves by believing even stronger in the authorities – the government/authorities will save you! And to ease their cognitive dissonance (since this shouldn't be happening in their comfy world), they want to post articles like this to get everyone to agree that yes, the authorities are omnipotent and know how to keep us safe.

Right now I'm keeping a low profile, not engaging in any discussion with these people. Things might get ugly, and you don't want to feel the fury of an ignorant authoritarian-follower who's brain is not functioning! ;)

Thanks for the perspective. And as you wrote, better to stay low.

 

[Laura]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

This is just what I was thinking when this happened: Greenbaumed individuals who just 'go off' early/unexpectedly.

I would say that what we are seeing is them going off as planned... nothing "early" or "unexpected" about what is happening nowadays.

 

[Altair]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

This is just what I was thinking when this happened: Greenbaumed individuals who just 'go off' early/unexpectedly.

I would say that what we are seeing is them going off as planned... nothing "early" or "unexpected" about what is happening nowadays.

I agree. The timing is right considering the coming elections in German Bundestag (24 September 2017).

 

[Jefferson]

Re: Stabbings in Finland, Germany and Russia in two days

This is just what I was thinking when this happened: Greenbaumed individuals who just 'go off' early/unexpectedly.

I would say that what we are seeing is them going off as planned... nothing "early" or "unexpected" about what is happening nowadays.

Yes after all the violent offenses all over the place and also after reading about the politicians in Finland talking about the new surveillance law I began to think this was not an 'unexpected/early set-off' of a greenbaum case. Finnish social media is indicating some evidence of the perpetrator having had training, due to the way he attacked, and some eye witness allegedly saw a Blackwater/Craft tattoo/insignia on the man. This is still unconfirmed but it is highly unlikely Finnish MSM will reveal or confirm any of these other allegations.