StormCloudsGathering asking for help

Nicholas

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StormCloudsGathering has been under financial attack and is asking for donations to continue their work:


He produces some hard hitting videos that have been popular, especially for all of us here on the forum.

He has been collecting ad revenue from YouTube but that has been intercepted by Google.

In order for him to continue this project and another one he mentions in the video, he needs help. I think it would be worthwhile to try and help him.
 
In order for him to continue this project and another one he mentions in the video, he needs help. I think it would be worthwhile to try and help him.

I agree. He puts out some decent videos and apparently, has gotten the attention of some 'higher ups'. :thdown:
Any little bit can help if enough people donate. He must of put all his eggs in one basket, so the attack hit em' pretty hard.
 
Lilou said:
In order for him to continue this project and another one he mentions in the video, he needs help. I think it would be worthwhile to try and help him.

I agree. He puts out some decent videos and apparently, has gotten the attention of some 'higher ups'. :thdown:
Any little bit can help if enough people donate. He must of put all his eggs in one basket, so the attack hit em' pretty hard.

Yeah, though it really looks like him and his family are doing the best they can to create a better world. Thanks for posting this, Nicolas, I'll be donating to help the cause.
 
This is too bad.

Nicolas said:
He has been collecting ad revenue from YouTube but that has been intercepted by Google.

May I ask Nicolas, how does Google intercept this revenue; I mean they own YouTube and all, but what does that exactly look like? Can it be turned around?
 
Thank you Nicolas for bringing attention to this. I signed up for a monthly donation, even if I don't like Paypal.

They do a good job and I think they have to learn or realise that they too need to network as it simply is too difficult alone with all the various forms of attacks.
 
Aeneas said:
Thank you Nicolas for bringing attention to this. I signed up for a monthly donation, even if I don't like Paypal.

They do a good job and I think they have to learn or realise that they too need to network as it simply is too difficult alone with all the various forms of attacks.

Yes. That's why I'm usually disinclined to give too much energy (or funds) to those who haven't figured out the networking angle. Without feedback, they very often go off the rails as we have seen SO often. A one time thing, yeah, but then I watch them for awhile.
 
voyageur said:
This is too bad.

Nicolas said:
He has been collecting ad revenue from YouTube but that has been intercepted by Google.

May I ask Nicolas, how does Google intercept this revenue; I mean they own YouTube and all, but what does that exactly look like? Can it be turned around?

Yes, as he mentions in the video, they take down his popular videos (that include ad revenue) without warning or any notification thus no one can watch and he doesn't get any payment for views on those videos.
 
Nicolas said:
voyageur said:
This is too bad.

Nicolas said:
He has been collecting ad revenue from YouTube but that has been intercepted by Google.

May I ask Nicolas, how does Google intercept this revenue; I mean they own YouTube and all, but what does that exactly look like? Can it be turned around?

Yes, as he mentions in the video, they take down his popular videos (that include ad revenue) without warning or any notification thus no one can watch and he doesn't get any payment for views on those videos.

I find that to be just a TAD suspicious a claim. He sure hasn't said a single thing that would make that a necessity.
 
Nicolas said:
voyageur said:
This is too bad.

Nicolas said:
He has been collecting ad revenue from YouTube but that has been intercepted by Google.

May I ask Nicolas, how does Google intercept this revenue; I mean they own YouTube and all, but what does that exactly look like? Can it be turned around?

Yes, as he mentions in the video, they take down his popular videos (that include ad revenue) without warning or any notification thus no one can watch and he doesn't get any payment for views on those videos.

That's not quite what I took away from the video. My understanding is that YouTube/Google "de-monetized" all of his old videos but left them up for viewing. He was relying on ad revenues from the videos in order to make new ones and now he has nothing coming in from that source. Due to Google's policy of refusing to monetize videos addressing "controversial subjects including war", there's no point in even trying to monetize new ones.

I've enjoyed and gained knowledge from his/their videos but it would seem that a model of relying completely on ad revenues from The Beast in order to spread messages of truth is doomed from the start, or at least severely problematic. Look at Zerohedge. If I leave their site open for too long the ads on it almost always crash my computer!
 
meta-agnostic said:
Nicolas said:
voyageur said:
This is too bad.

Nicolas said:
He has been collecting ad revenue from YouTube but that has been intercepted by Google.

May I ask Nicolas, how does Google intercept this revenue; I mean they own YouTube and all, but what does that exactly look like? Can it be turned around?

Yes, as he mentions in the video, they take down his popular videos (that include ad revenue) without warning or any notification thus no one can watch and he doesn't get any payment for views on those videos.

That's not quite what I took away from the video. My understanding is that YouTube/Google "de-monetized" all of his old videos but left them up for viewing. He was relying on ad revenues from the videos in order to make new ones and now he has nothing coming in from that source. Due to Google's policy of refusing to monetize videos addressing "controversial subjects including war", there's no point in even trying to monetize new ones.

That is how I understood it as well...
 
meta-agnostic said:
That's not quite what I took away from the video. My understanding is that YouTube/Google "de-monetized" all of his old videos but left them up for viewing. He was relying on ad revenues from the videos in order to make new ones and now he has nothing coming in from that source. Due to Google's policy of refusing to monetize videos addressing "controversial subjects including war", there's no point in even trying to monetize new ones.

I've enjoyed and gained knowledge from his/their videos but it would seem that a model of relying completely on ad revenues from The Beast in order to spread messages of truth is doomed from the start, or at least severely problematic. Look at Zerohedge. If I leave their site open for too long the ads on it almost always crash my computer!

How many views do these videos have on them? I expect that the number of clicks of ads is around 2% of viewers. Anybody know how much a click pays?
 
Laura said:
meta-agnostic said:
That's not quite what I took away from the video. My understanding is that YouTube/Google "de-monetized" all of his old videos but left them up for viewing. He was relying on ad revenues from the videos in order to make new ones and now he has nothing coming in from that source. Due to Google's policy of refusing to monetize videos addressing "controversial subjects including war", there's no point in even trying to monetize new ones.

I've enjoyed and gained knowledge from his/their videos but it would seem that a model of relying completely on ad revenues from The Beast in order to spread messages of truth is doomed from the start, or at least severely problematic. Look at Zerohedge. If I leave their site open for too long the ads on it almost always crash my computer!

How many views do these videos have on them? I expect that the number of clicks of ads is around 2% of viewers. Anybody know how much a click pays?

He says in the video that in the last couple years his videos have gone from only getting a few thousand views to getting multiple hundreds of thousands. Looking through the back catalog of videos seems to support this:
https://www.youtube.com/user/StormCloudsGathering/videos
When clicking through a few of those videos, some of them still came up with ads. I guess that means the ad revenue is now going 100% to Google and they're not necessarily shy about showing ads on "controversial" videos, they just aren't going to share any of it with the content creators.
 
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