Strange object over Greece

[astrofusion]

Spyraal,
The greek amateur astronomers have every reason to be certain that you were dealing with Vega, because it is Vega.
What I can't understand is why you cannot accept that simple fact. This is not a reaction of an open minded person.
It is no big deal, is it?
Don't worry, I DO wish you DO discover a real UFO sooner or later, but not this time, sorry!
This time you "discovered" Vega.
Look at the bright side of it: it is the first star you are learning about, and there are dozens more to learn: Arcturus, Spica, Deneb, Altair, Rigel, Betelgeuze, Prokyon, Sirius,... etc

@strofusion

 

[anart]

astrofusion, you seem to have misinterpreted Spryaal's post. I do not see anywhere in his post that he does not accept the fact, merely that he will continue to study what he needs to study to understand what he is dealing with.

Your post, however, indicates that you are rather irritated that he does not respond in the manner in which you want him to respond. Why are you so identified with this - why does it matter so much to you what Spyraal does or does not understand? His learning is his own and you have given your input - so what is really going on here that you would respond in this manner?

 

[astrofusion]

Hey, you seem to have misinterpreted my sense of houmour:
"Don't worry, I DO wish you DO discover a real UFO sooner or later, but not this time, sorry!"
See?
Actually, I was loughing when I was typing that!
No irritation, my friend, calm down!

 

[anart]

Nope. I completely understood that part of your post. What I am referring to is this:

What I can't understand is why you cannot accept that simple fact.

And, rest assured, I am quite calm. Please note that tone is noticed on this forum - if you did not intend to come across this way, then perhaps being more careful with your wording in the future might help.

 

[spyraal]

Astrofusion, I respect the opinion of the people (yours included) who said that what i shot was actually Vega.
I acknowledged my lack of proper astronomical knowledge as well as their experience. And being Vega, is really is the most probable explanation.
I do not "wish" to discover a UFO. I only wish to have my eyes open and make my own judgement. And i am also willing to invest time
to learn, so as to support my judgement. I did not disregard their opinion and start making my own "alternative" theories without knowledge.
I am only asking! I will study, and sooner or later, i will either come to their words and verify that it IS Vega or i might learn something new.
Maybe i sound like a "fool" to you, but as much as i respect yours and their opinion, i cannot 100% buy anyboydy's ABSOLUTE opinion over the
internet about something i witnessed MYSELF! No matter how well intended or not. I prefer to go the "hard way" ( or the foolish way!) and find out myself
as much as i can before i rest my case. All in all, it's not "seeing is believing" rather than "believing is seeing".
So the less you believe (or take at face value without questioning), the more you see.
Maybe i am all wrong, but this is my own learning style.

 

[astrofusion]

spyraal,
If it is clear sky on your hometown, you can probably see now many bright stars. At your ESE horizon, at elevation ~50 degrees, you can see Arcturus, an orange supergiant. Lower, at 35 deg SSE horizon is Spica, WSW Prokyon at 24 deg, Castor and Pollux at Western horizon, 35 degrees, Capella at NW 25 degrees, etc.

If you try to photograph any of these stars, or any other you wish, with your Olympus, I am sure you will have that donut effect again and again, and again, because it is caused by your out-of-focus imaging.

According to the laws of physics, stars are point sources of light, and if you image or view them with a lens or telescope which is out of focus, you get these concentric circles of light and dark bands, which look like a donut.
Of course, the proper thing to do during observation or astrophotography is image or observe a star IN FOCUS, where it is, ideally a sharp pin-point.
Nevertheless, sometimes we need to carefull examine the shape and stracture of an in-focus and an out-of-focus donut, in order to test the optics of a telescope. If the donut is symmetrical or not, how thick these bands are, etc, reveal how well a telescope's optics (mirrors or lens) are constructed. So a perfect donut is from a perfect telescope, and a bad donut is from a bad telescope.

@astrofusion