Strategic Social Architecture Foundation

[Lilou]

[quote author=psychegram]
Maybe this guy has retired from the corporate world and gone and gotten himself involved with the local police department, in a kind of practice-what-you-preach kind of way?
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That is possible, he does have previous addresses listed in CT, within driving distance to Eastern CT State University. Could be he worked for a psychopath in the corporate world which led him down the rabbit hole? If it is the same fellow, he's not listing his work in law enforcement on this site. Maybe for his own strategic enclosure?

 

[psychegram]

Quite possibly. It's hard to say ... there doesn't seem to be a lot of information about him personally, either on the site or elsewhere on the web. Interesting fellow.

 

[Vulcan59]

Had a look earlier and based on the bio, this should be him, OSIT.

_http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-washington/3/972/786

 

[Laura]

Had a look earlier and based on the bio, this should be him, OSIT.

_http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-washington/3/972/786

The linkedin page seems to have been removed.

The thing that bothers me about the various individuals and groups that "cotton on" to psychopathology as the "infecting agent" in human society, and who then decide that they can set something up to deal with it, is the apparent complete lack of attention to the need to work on the self first.

This Kevin Washington has a very good page in his 22 page ppt presentation about the fact that psychopaths can induce psychopathic behaviors in others, that those others can then become programmed to continue that behavior by a feedback system, and it appears that he realizes that this is something that can begin in early childhood and is inculcated via the very culture we live in (or maybe I'm assuming too much here?), but in no way does he suggest a reasonable and proven method for dealing with this except, basically, that already damaged people should decide what is or is not acceptable behavior, what is or is not truly human, what is or is not pathological?

As far as I can see, it is only in doing the research in cognitive science and utilizing an effective method of working on the self that can prepare people to do the kinds of things he is suggesting. And, as we have seen, based on the research in cognitive science, the Gurdjieffien methods are closest to what works though we've had to do a lot of supplemental research and experimentation.

I just don't see how anybody, under any circumstances, can declare themselves to be an authority on this without first doing The Work in some shape or form.

We've certainly encountered many examples of this very problem including Liane Leedom, Thomas Sheridan, Gregory James, the recent BenBuehne, and many others from the past. Those who simply can't "go there" in terms of seeing and dealing with their own pathology are not going to be able to create any kind of organization that will survive without ponerization.

What is also amusing is how certain pathological types who cannot - or will not - see themselves, then go away and pronounce the process we've developed here over years and years of practice as evidence that we, ourselves, are ponerized.

Most often, I just think they CAN'T do it which, alone, is enough to indicate their own state of being programmed via pathological material.

I would say that if anyone is REALLY SINCERE about wanting to do something like this as a service to humanity, they will be wanting to work on themselves first and find a clear way to help others de-program also. That is the FIRST order of business.

 

[Carl]

I have to agree unfortunately. This idea would have been great at the beginning of a civilisation, but the most important fact that movements such as this seem to miss is that we are all the predator, to a greater or lesser extent, until we work on ourselves..

Spotting psychopaths is not enough when the average person these days has more than their fair share of psychopathic traits, and the most well intentioned people can screw things up almost as well as the true remorseless beings. The maze is much more tricky than people like to think.

Still, I have to applaud people like this guy who can see part of the problem and want to help solve it, and more psychopathy awareness/social responsibility cannot be a bad thing. Good luck achieving anything like that in today's society though.

 

[Laura]

I have to agree unfortunately. This idea would have been great at the beginning of a civilisation, but the most important fact that movements such as this seem to miss is that we are all the predator, to a greater or lesser extent, until we work on ourselves..

This is the biggie. People think they can think with the way they are brought up to think without even realizing how deeply the roots of ponerization go and how few thoughts (if any) they ever have that are genuinely theirs. Even when you point out the research to people that reveals over and over again that this is true, they THINK that it does not apply to them. The very idea that their own mind can be corrupted is so horrifying that they can't go there. But go there they must if they wish to start with the change that makes a difference.

Spotting psychopaths is not enough when the average person these days has more than their fair share of psychopathic traits, and the most well intentioned people can screw things up almost as well as the true remorseless beings. The maze is much more tricky than people like to think.

Exactly. And it's not so easy to spot the really good psychopaths because it is usually the ones that aren't too bright or have drives they cannot control that get caught. Most of them learn, over time, how to adjust their mask better and better; Liane Leedom may be a case in point. And pointing out that she has now managed to infiltrate the Hare organization is not evidence that she is not as pathological as the investigation reports about her suggest; Hare himself has confessed that he is a sucker for psychopaths.

Still, I have to applaud people like this guy who can see part of the problem and want to help solve it, and more psychopathy awareness/social responsibility cannot be a bad thing. Good luck achieving anything like that in today's society though.

Exactly.

We were talking about it the other day here and came to the tentative conclusion that there really is no way to "spot the psychopath" without a network being involved in long and careful observation.

I think I've told the story about a couple of individuals I suspected by a couple of very small signs to be of that ilk, but the signs were so small, and possibly misleading, that I invited the individuals in question to come and work with us for awhile so that we could observe and interact with them. If I ever get time, I should write these studies up because they were fascinating. It really is amazing how they construct their masks and maintain them and you really have to be paying attention to catch them slipping. There are other clues like lying, mask-like expressions when you say something to them they cannot grok, hand expressions, behaviors that they exhibit when they think no one is watching (some of them are doozies!)

 

[grini]

Had a look earlier and based on the bio, this should be him, OSIT.

_http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-washington/3/972/786

The linkedin page seems to have been removed.

I have just tried that link and it works.

Kevin Washington's Overview

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Kevin Washington's Summary

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Lead an Enterprise Architecture team - Chief Architect/Enterprise Architecture Director

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• Bridge between the Business area and IT. My success has been based on the ability to walk the fine line between business and technology and affect collaboration and communication between the technologists, IT products, businesspeople, and customers. A solid technical background enables me to gain the trust of the IT area. Refined customer relationship skills enable me to gain the trust of the Business area. By translating business to IT and IT to business I can effect a collaboration which focuses on business goals where IT partners with the business to establish successful, cost effective, and robust solutions.

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1987 – 1989

 

[un chien anadolu]

Last night while reading their website i was thinking the same especially the 'Effective Change' section :

True change in social reality is dependent upon:

· An alert and knowledgeable citizenry, skilled in social system architecture and management, who have a shared worldview and understanding of the mission, vision, goals, architecture, and operating model of the social order.

· A shared worldview which is based on each citizen formulating their worldview through their own hard work, not on blindly accepting cultural programming from existing social programming systems.

· Citizens who have full awareness of cultural programming and the manner in which it is used to control the masses by the oligarchy. This is essential for freedom of thought and by extension social liberty. Free Will isn’t Free.

I think most -if not all- 'Truth seeking movement groups' make the same mistake. They assume that being aware happens so to speak just at a moment in time as if there's an on/off switch. Like in the Matrix movie they unplug Neo from the devices and he gets rid of his programs.

 

[Nook]

Last night while reading their website i was thinking the same especially the 'Effective Change' section :

True change in social reality is dependent upon:

· An alert and knowledgeable citizenry, skilled in social system architecture and management, who have a shared worldview and understanding of the mission, vision, goals, architecture, and operating model of the social order.

· A shared worldview which is based on each citizen formulating their worldview through their own hard work, not on blindly accepting cultural programming from existing social programming systems.

· Citizens who have full awareness of cultural programming and the manner in which it is used to control the masses by the oligarchy. This is essential for freedom of thought and by extension social liberty. Free Will isn’t Free.

I think most -if not all- 'Truth seeking movement groups' make the same mistake. They assume that being aware happens so to speak just at a moment in time as if there's an on/off switch. Like in the Matrix movie they unplug Neo from the devices and he gets rid of his programs.

Yes. They also do not grok that knowledge can be there without understanding and based on their full 'Effective change' section alone, they do not have real understanding.

Too bad. I have to admit, I got a little excited when I read their mission statement and saw PP in the recommended book list...

 

[un chien anadolu]

Too bad. I have to admit, I got a little excited when I read their mission statement and saw PP in the recommended book list...

I think we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. I mean, even though as Laura pointed out SSAF lacks a major conception for the ultimate solution (the necessity to work intensively on the self) they can be helpful to many people to begin to identify the most important part of the problem; Psychopaths.

We know how Zeitgeist impressed so many people although it lacks the reality of psychopathy concept, at least this guys are a few major steps ahead of it, IMHO.

 

[Cosmos]

I think I've told the story about a couple of individuals I suspected by a couple of very small signs to be of that ilk, but the signs were so small, and possibly misleading, that I invited the individuals in question to come and work with us for awhile so that we could observe and interact with them. If I ever get time, I should write these studies up because they were fascinating. It really is amazing how they construct their masks and maintain them and you really have to be paying attention to catch them slipping. There are other clues like lying, mask-like expressions when you say something to them they cannot grok, hand expressions, behaviors that they exhibit when they think no one is watching (some of them are doozies!)

I think I wouldn't be the only one who would love to read about that!
Nothing is more interesting and educating than a discription of this kind of creatures and how they interact and react....

 

[Carl]

I think I've told the story about a couple of individuals I suspected by a couple of very small signs to be of that ilk, but the signs were so small, and possibly misleading, that I invited the individuals in question to come and work with us for awhile so that we could observe and interact with them. If I ever get time, I should write these studies up because they were fascinating. It really is amazing how they construct their masks and maintain them and you really have to be paying attention to catch them slipping. There are other clues like lying, mask-like expressions when you say something to them they cannot grok, hand expressions, behaviors that they exhibit when they think no one is watching (some of them are doozies!)

I think I wouldn't be the only one who would love to read about that!
Nothing is more interesting and educating than a discription of this kind of creatures and how they interact and react....

Absolutely. The process of trying to identify who might or might not be a psycho in my past is like mercury slipping through my fingers sometimes. That they can push our buttons (read: brain chemicals) so well, and will be the friendliest guy in the world for years, is rather chilling. Any real life studies of identifying pathological people are always very helpful, especially for those out here 'on our own' without that close network at hand in the Chateau.

 

[Nook]

Too bad. I have to admit, I got a little excited when I read their mission statement and saw PP in the recommended book list...

I think we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. I mean, even though as Laura pointed out SSAF lacks a major conception for the ultimate solution (the necessity to work intensively on the self) they can be helpful to many people to begin to identify the most important part of the problem; Psychopaths.

We know how Zeitgeist impressed so many people although it lacks the reality of psychopathy concept, at least this guys are a few major steps ahead of it, IMHO.

I agree. But even though they are major steps ahead of things like Zeitgeist, they still don't have the full picture, that's why I said what I said, because I'm kind of disappointed. That doesn't mean that it can't give people a general boost of sorts and drive them to find out more. Perhaps by reading PP, they'll inquire about RPP and what other books are published by them or something and eventually find the full scale of untainted material on many subjects...

I guess I didn't express myself well enough in my previous post, sorry about that. Since knowledge on psychopathy is one of the primary 3D lessons, it is important that there are websites with the right knowledge on the matter out there. I didn't mean to say we should throw out the baby with the bath water. But take it with a grain of salt. With references to Alex Jones, etc...it's not just the right knowledge present on that website.
But as long as people can just find out about psychopathy as a starting point, yes it's a good thing, osit.

My concern is that most people, once they think they've found a good and reliable source of information, they won't go further than that. They'll keep going back to that same source for further elaboration, information and - as in this case - disinfo as well. Will they be able to separate the real info from disinfo? Not unless they're driven to find the truth.

I think I've told the story about a couple of individuals I suspected by a couple of very small signs to be of that ilk, but the signs were so small, and possibly misleading, that I invited the individuals in question to come and work with us for awhile so that we could observe and interact with them. If I ever get time, I should write these studies up because they were fascinating. It really is amazing how they construct their masks and maintain them and you really have to be paying attention to catch them slipping. There are other clues like lying, mask-like expressions when you say something to them they cannot grok, hand expressions, behaviors that they exhibit when they think no one is watching (some of them are doozies!)

I think I wouldn't be the only one who would love to read about that!
Nothing is more interesting and educating than a discription of this kind of creatures and how they interact and react....

Absolutely agree! I would love to read those studies as well :)

 

[Laura]

Well, what really worries me about such plans is the incredible opportunity for pathological types to infiltrate and take the whole movement off track. I mean, look at Thomas Sheridan and Sam Vaknin not to mention Liane Leedom!

According to Sheridan, a whole lot of people will be labeled psychopaths who are NOT, while the real psychopaths will rise to the top as heroes; according to Vaknin, all the psychopaths and narcissists are just suffering souls that need a bromide; according to Leedom, all they need is tough love to grow up normal. Sheesh!

 

[Alana]

Well, what really worries me about such plans is the incredible opportunity for pathological types to infiltrate and take the whole movement off track. I mean, look at Thomas Sheridan and Sam Vaknin not to mention Liane Leedom!

According to Sheridan, a whole lot of people will be labeled psychopaths who are NOT, while the real psychopaths will rise to the top as heroes; according to Vaknin, all the psychopaths and narcissists are just suffering souls that need a bromide; according to Leedom, all they need is tough love to grow up normal. Sheesh!

And now we have Dutton promoting in all media outlets that having psychopathic traits is actually good for you, we can learn a lot from them! As soon as people start to become aware of an aspect of our reality, so does the muddying of the waters begins. And if people don't have a proven guideline and a network through which to work their own programs, it's highly unlikely that they will recognize pathological infiltration, even if one reads all the books on the subject.