Streetlights and other odd electronic failures

[abstract]

Re: Strange

Well, maybe someone IS plotting against you, because you're so easily freaked out

I don't know why, helle, sometimes your responses trigger my programs, I almost put an offensive response without realizing. K, moving on...

Maybe it's a message from yourself, that says WAKE UP all by yourself, don't rely on any outside force to wake you up?

OR ! Maybe your battery is a bit old, the first sign of battery-death is when it randomly shuts itself off.

Are you suggesting that i discontinue the use of alarm clocks??? I sure hope not, theres no way i can wake up right when i need to. Even if you can, and i've heard of those that do, i'd rather not take the risk.

We'll see if the phone does this again, i suppose, to see if it is just a bad battery or something. I'd rather not have it be someone trying to sabatoge my life.

 

[Helle]

Re: Strange

I don't know why, Helle, sometimes your responses trigger my programs, I almost put an offensive response without realizing. K, moving on...

Well, triggering, observing and work on my programs, are exactly why I'm here ;) I thought that's why you were here too? Don't move on !
Bring it on, the program! Let's see if we can learn something!

I have a gazillion programs running, maybe you could help me identify the one with the need to provoke you, and most importantly, why?

 

[Oxajil]

Re: Strange

I've always had some fear about anything that's machine-like and man-made, cause I don't trust it!
Perhaps these strange happenings can be explained.
Perhaps some bugs? Message from Yourself, like Helle said? Could be possible.
I think that they shouldn't really distract you. Okay, it's interesting, but try not to have it stress you out.
Keep on doing what you're doing and these things might go away.

It might be interesting though to keep the experiences/observations posted, just try not to let these things get to you.

fwiw

(I have this refrigerator that makes the most annoying sounds ever ! And sometimes at night I hear some weird sounds, but when I listen carefully, I recognize it's from the refrigerator. Just keep all options open.)

 

[Tigersoap]

Re: Strange

A few years back, I used to get spooked often by weird noises, loud bangs in the walls, shadows on the ceilings.
I do not know if it's because I really tried to work on myself or if finally came to face some of my own fears instead of projecting them outside but it never happened again.
So I think it's always good to explore and ponder about what's not seen in yourself that could trigger such things osit.

On that note, when I realized I needed to be more open and allow things to be fluid instead of trying to control everything all my photoshop settings,brushes, gradients patiently built or gathered vanished, although it could be a timely coincidence I cursed vividly then I just laughed at it and thought "ok I get it" and my mobile phone kept turning itself on several times a few months back :D

 

[abstract]

Re: Strange

I think that they shouldn't really distract you.

It's not distracting, just plain weird. It's not stressing me out. :)

, maybe you could help me identify the one with the need to provoke you, and most importantly, why?

Uh, okay, i guess. Well, when you said that i'm easily freaked out my first reaction was to type something along the lines of "how the hell would you know?"

I suppose that my ego felt threatened, that somehow my manliness or my mental stability was coming into question, and I had an urge to "put a stop to it". I realized what I was doing

and could not think of a suitable substitute, hence the response i gave you and changing the subject. I simply did not know what to do, so I made note of it and finished my post. :)

 

[pete02]

Re: Strange

I agree that electronics can do wacky things, pete.

Do you really?

Then why would you drive yourself to this..

I'm searching my mind for all the variables and i'm coming up with nothing except a paranoid feeling that someone is plotting against me.

You've already admitted it is an older phone and Helle had brought up a very good point, maybe the battery is on its way out or some other electronic component is getting ready to fail? I think Oxajil is right..

I think that they shouldn't really distract you. Okay, it's interesting, but try not to have it stress you out.

Try not to lose focus of whats important here. Why waste the energy on believing someone or something is out to get you? Cell phones are some of the worst electronic toys out there. Believe me, my ex used to work for one of the biggest cell providers out there and I've heard of many strange things happening to them.

 

[abstract]

Re: Strange

Then why would you drive yourself to this..

Quote from: abstract
I'm searching my mind for all the variables and i'm coming up with nothing except a paranoid feeling that someone is plotting against me.

I apologize, maybe I should have mentioned that I was mostly joking about that statement, shoud've put an lol!

It's just one of those things that makes a million questions roll through your head, i suppose.

I'm not really thinking someone is out to get me. The thought just came and went as I processed the experience and the opinions of others.

 

[Helle]

Re: Strange Humming Sound

Uh, okay, i guess. Well, when you said that I'm easily freaked out my first reaction was to type something along the lines of "how the hell would you know?"

I Don't know if you're easily freaked out, it was an assumption based on your posts.
I also made the assumption, that you're a guy that's fun, and you often come across as being slightly sarcastic, so I thought you could easily handle my fresh remark ;)

I'm often being fresh and provocative with you, because that's how you come across to me. You often ignore my attempts to rattle your bushes though, that's why I have to be not-so subtle, to get your attention! I'm just trying to get you, to see yourself, and now you did.

I suppose that my ego felt threatened, that somehow my manliness or my mental stability was coming into question

You lost both of those LONG time ago.

I AM JUST KIDDING MAN!


But it IS a good exercise, to look at WHY we react as we do.

It's a good exercise for me, to see why I react on your posts, as i do. Maybe it's because I often feel you're being just a little on the wise-guy-side /smart-ass'ish, so I want to pull you down to earth. I have no business doing that at all, so my apologies! I will constrain myself, and start being objective with you.

 

[abstract]

Re: Strange

Maybe it's because I often feel you're being just a little on the wise-guy-side /smart-ass'ish, so I want to pull you down to earth.

I'll admit, I might be a bit of a wise guy sometimes, sometimes i'm just joking, sometimes its leftover apathy disguised as a joke.

I actually consider myself to be "down to earth" but maybe not as much as i thought, lol.

I have no business doing that at all, so my apologies! I will constrain myself, and start being objective with you.

It's not your fault. It's hard to tell sometimes when you make an innocent remark, and the other person takes it as you poking their insecurities.

I'm often being fresh and provocative with you

fresh and provocative? uhhhhhh...i'm not exactly sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate a bit more? How do i come across like this?

 

[vinny]

Re: Strange

I'm searching my mind for all the variables and i'm coming up with nothing except a paranoid feeling that someone is plotting against me.

I guess for the moment you have to chalk it down as a 'wierd' happening that you can't explain, and maybe a little reminder to keep an eye on how you react to things, the internal dialogue that goes on. Many people here have had slightly odd things happen at one time or another. There may be a mundane explanation or maybe not, impossible to say without more data. But either way, best not let it get to you, because that's how STS (in all it's various guises) works, by creating distraction and triggering emotional (and mechanical) reaction, in order to keep us from being aware and thinking clearly.

 

[ana]

Re: Strange

Well, maybe someone IS plotting against you, because you're so easily freaked out

I don't know why, helle, sometimes your responses trigger my programs, I almost put an offensive response without realizing. K, moving on...

I don't know why, Helle, sometimes your responses trigger my programs, I almost put an offensive response without realizing. K, moving on...

Well, triggering, observing and work on my programs, are exactly why I'm here ;) I thought that's why you were here too? Don't move on !
Bring it on, the program! Let's see if we can learn something!
I have a gazillion programs running, maybe you could help me identify the one with the need to provoke you, and most importantly, why?

This trigger my attention, Lately I've been rereading a little more on defense mechanisms under a gestalt approach, and also reading The drama of gifted child by Allice Miller after seeing the very interesting quotes Trevitzen posted in other threads.


_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have the same feelings or motives, rather than what they really think.

Projection is considered one of the most profound and subtle of human psychological processes, and extremely difficult to work with, because by its nature it is hidden. It is the fundamental mechanism by which we keep ourselves uninformed about ourselves. Humor has great value in any attempt to work with projection, because humor presents a forgiving posture and thereby removes the threatening nature of any inquiry into the truth.

The question of how to deal with anger and other feelings in the countertransference no longer needs to be asked if we begin with the assumption that all the feelings that the patient arouses in his analyst, during his analysis, are part of his unconscious attempt to tell the analyst his story and at the same time to hide it from him—that is, to protect himself from the renewed manipulation he unconsciously expects.

I always assume that the patient has no other way of telling me his story than the one he actually uses. Seen thus, all feelings arising in me, including irritation, belong to his coded language and are of great heuristic value. At times they may help to find the lost key to still invisible doors. At one time there was discussion in the literature about how to recognize whether countertransference feelings are an expression of the analyst's transference. If the analyst has gained emotional access to his own childhood, then heshould easily be able to distinguish between countertrans-ference feelings and his own childish ones (his own transference).Feelings that belong to the Countertransferenceare like a quick flash, a signal, and clearly related to theanalysand's person. When they are intense, tormenting, and continuous, they have to do with oneself. The Countertransference indicates either the former attitudes of the patient's primary objects (or the analyst's unconscious rejection of this role), or the child's feelings, split-off and never experienced, which the patient in the course of his analysis has delegated to his analyst.

I slowly realize, how myself have been doing it, projecting onto others those "negative and immoral" feelings, allowing these manifest unconsciously, without realize they are the result of my own continously repressed emotions.

What is even more interesting OSIT is how even if we are not physically close, the empathetic union allow the transference of these fellings, in this case maybe Abstract has experienced some of Helle's repressed feelings.

Does it make sense for you?

 

[anart]

Re: How did this happen?

So I decided to post this instead of sweeping it under the rug. Check it!

I can set up to five alarm clocks in my cellphone. Last night i set up 4 of them, because i don't wake up very quickly.

I turned my phone volume all the way up, this has woken me up many times before. My phone was ON. Full battery!

I started doing ee, I was sure that I would zone out because i've done it alot lately, hence the alarm clocks to wake me up in time for work.

I WOKE UP AT 3:00 PM AND MY PHONE WAS OFF. It was off!! I was an hour and a half late to work because some way, somehow, it turned off in the middle of the night.

I can't figure out why, why, why my phone would be able to magically turn itself off in the middle of the night, it doesn't have a sleep mode or anything, it is NOT supposed to randomly shut off.

It's not broken. It's never done that before. Maybe i'm just being paranoid but really, what gives???

Could you have just turned it off in your sleep and not remember? I used to do this years ago and it was a pain because saying, "I apparently turned off my alarm clock in my sleep" was no excuse for being late to work. I never had any recollection of turning it off, but back then I was a sleep walker and knew I did/said things in my sleep occasionally, so I figured that was it. Perhaps it wasn't, but it's the first thing that comes to mind.

 

[Helle]

Re: Strange

fresh and provocative? uhhhhhh...I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate a bit more? How do i come across like this?

Reading some of your previous posts, I've always gotten the impression, that you like to be fresh and somewhat provocative.

Your latest contribute in the EE thread has a weird ending and to me is somewhat noisy, your thread about stupid people had a smartass wording, your sarcastic comments here and there makes it hard for me, to see if you're being sincere etc.

If I had the time, I could quote them directly, but unfortunately I don't have the time, I have 4 children screaming for food, a translating job i REALLY wanna look into, a spinning class, and my breathing to do before sleep, so Off I am!

I'm gonna have to get back to Ana's post about defense mechanisms, it does make sense Ana :) I'm just not really sure, what repressed emotions it IS I'm projecting. Repressed annoyance? Hard for me too, if I'm being in denial about it, but I'll give it some thought, when I get the time. :)

 

[agni]

Re: How did this happen?

So I decided to post this instead of sweeping it under the rug. Check it!

I can set up to five alarm clocks in my cellphone. Last night i set up 4 of them, because i don't wake up very quickly.

I turned my phone volume all the way up, this has woken me up many times before. My phone was ON. Full battery!

I started doing ee, I was sure that I would zone out because i've done it alot lately, hence the alarm clocks to wake me up in time for work.

I WOKE UP AT 3:00 PM AND MY PHONE WAS OFF. It was off!! I was an hour and a half late to work because some way, somehow, it turned off in the middle of the night.

I can't figure out why, why, why my phone would be able to magically turn itself off in the middle of the night, it doesn't have a sleep mode or anything, it is NOT supposed to randomly shut off.

It's not broken. It's never done that before. Maybe i'm just being paranoid but really, what gives???

Could you have just turned it off in your sleep and not remember? I used to do this years ago and it was a pain because saying, "I apparently turned off my alarm clock in my sleep" was no excuse for being late to work. I never had any recollection of turning it off, but back then I was a sleep walker and knew I did/said things in my sleep occasionally, so I figured that was it. Perhaps it wasn't, but it's the first thing that comes to mind.

There are many things that can turn off your cell phone. Carrier uploading updates, hardware/software error, sometimes battery chare indicator lies, etc.

Anart you've reminded me of something.

About 9 years ago, during winter, I put several alarm clocks not to oversleep work. I woke up at 6 without alarm clocks, thinking good, I have time for breakfast and do not have to rush. Then I see & hear awfully a lot of people outside. Got me little suspicious, thought something is going on for so many people to be out so early... I turn TV - over 6 PM. I thought the whole time it was morning, since it was equally dark. Had tough time at work explaining how could I oversleep the whole day. But I guess nothing superficial, at the time I was an extreme sleeper. You could play drums next to me, and I still would have no problems sleeping.

But on one occasion, strong sleeping habits played in my favor somewhat.

I was working at the hotel, night shift. I felt asleep after work was done on a chair in a side room (owners did not mind). When I woke up, I saw no cash register (and one we had did not have any locks). Police was cracking up, when I told them what happened. But guys who stole it was right there on security camera, and apparently police knew him & got him 1 hour later. This time may be it was a good thing that I've slept so well and was not awaken, because before reaching for the register, a thief grabbed scissors of the table. Potentially it could have cost me if I would awaken during thievery process, who knows.

I should have saved a local paper with police blotter saying: Cash register was stolen from the hotel, while clerk was asleep. What an embarrassment.

 

[abstract]

Re: Strange

Your latest contribute in the EE thread has a weird ending and to me is somewhat noisy

Well, I just posted what happened. Nothing happened really, so not much to post.

your thread about stupid people had a smartass wording

I agree. It was about stupid people driving me insane, its not as though I had anything nice to say. :P

your sarcastic comments here and there makes it hard for me, to see if you're being sincere etc.

Fine, sarcasm off. I will no longer be sarcastic and if i do, i'll leave a note saying so. :D

had the time, I could quote them directly, but unfortunately I don't have the time, I have 4 children screaming for food, a translating job i REALLY wanna look into, a spinning class, and my breathing to do before sleep, so Off I am!

Well I guess you're just super-mom, huh? (That was a joke, k? Don't take that wrong. k? k.)