Streetlights and other odd electronic failures
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Re: Strange
About three weeks ago, I had a similarly weird thing happen with my digital alarm clock.
When I got into bed, the time on the clock was correct. I set my alarm and went to sleep.
I woke up and looked at my clock, and it said 08:40. Well, I usually leave for work at 08:30 so I started to panic. I then noticed it seemed quite dark outside and that's when I looked at my watch; it said something like 04:30. I thought that was weird and wondered what had happened. So I set my clock to the right time, and then just double checked the alarm time. It said 11:20!
Both the actual time, and alarm time had somehow completely changed.
About three weeks ago, I had a similarly weird thing happen with my digital alarm clock.
When I got into bed, the time on the clock was correct. I set my alarm and went to sleep.
I woke up and looked at my clock, and it said 08:40. Well, I usually leave for work at 08:30 so I started to panic. I then noticed it seemed quite dark outside and that's when I looked at my watch; it said something like 04:30. I thought that was weird and wondered what had happened. So I set my clock to the right time, and then just double checked the alarm time. It said 11:20!
Both the actual time, and alarm time had somehow completely changed.
Re: Strange
This past Tuesday I got home from work and checked the digital thermostat cause it was a bit chily, it was set on 62 deg. I texted my husband who left for work a few hours earlier and asked him why he turned it down so low, it was on 69 deg when I left in the AM. He said he'd turned it down to 67, not 62. I asked him if he was sure, and he said yes, he looked at it. You actually have to push the button in one time for each degree you raise or lower it. That's not the first time the temperature on the thermostat has changed from what one of us remembers setting it on.
Could be a perfectly rational explanation, of course.
Back in the fall, my husband and I were supposed to go somewhere and I was in the kitchen and called out to ask where he was since I thought it was time to leave. I heard a muffled voice answer me from upstairs so I thought he was still in his room. I yelled something back but he didn't answer. Then I turned around and walked over to the fridge and looked out the window, and he was standing out front in the parking lot smoking a cigarette! When he came in I asked how long he'd been out there, he said about ten minutes. I don't know who was upstairs talking to me.
T.C. said:
This past Tuesday I got home from work and checked the digital thermostat cause it was a bit chily, it was set on 62 deg. I texted my husband who left for work a few hours earlier and asked him why he turned it down so low, it was on 69 deg when I left in the AM. He said he'd turned it down to 67, not 62. I asked him if he was sure, and he said yes, he looked at it. You actually have to push the button in one time for each degree you raise or lower it. That's not the first time the temperature on the thermostat has changed from what one of us remembers setting it on.
Could be a perfectly rational explanation, of course.Back in the fall, my husband and I were supposed to go somewhere and I was in the kitchen and called out to ask where he was since I thought it was time to leave. I heard a muffled voice answer me from upstairs so I thought he was still in his room. I yelled something back but he didn't answer. Then I turned around and walked over to the fridge and looked out the window, and he was standing out front in the parking lot smoking a cigarette! When he came in I asked how long he'd been out there, he said about ten minutes. I don't know who was upstairs talking to me.
Buddy
The Living Force
Re: Strange
This happens to me occasionally as well. It mystifies my wife more than me though because I have such thin skin it doesn't take much to make a mark or even to draw blood.
As far as strange things happening to me, I got up in a hurry one school day morning, just a few weeks back, in a strange state of mind. Although my clothes and everything were right where they were supposed to be, my chest of drawers was replaced with an antique sewing machine and where there was supposed to be a wall switch for the overhead light, there was an old fashioned oil lamp attached to the wall. It was lit and the ambient light was dim. I knew something was wrong but I just kept going and left the room as if nothing was different, noticing that everything else was completely normal.
I guess it was only a few minutes later when I realized I must have been still half asleep. It's just that I never felt like I 'woke up' from it...rather the feeling of strangeness and something 'alternate' stayed with me the rest of the day.
abstract said:
This happens to me occasionally as well. It mystifies my wife more than me though because I have such thin skin it doesn't take much to make a mark or even to draw blood.
As far as strange things happening to me, I got up in a hurry one school day morning, just a few weeks back, in a strange state of mind. Although my clothes and everything were right where they were supposed to be, my chest of drawers was replaced with an antique sewing machine and where there was supposed to be a wall switch for the overhead light, there was an old fashioned oil lamp attached to the wall. It was lit and the ambient light was dim. I knew something was wrong but I just kept going and left the room as if nothing was different, noticing that everything else was completely normal.
I guess it was only a few minutes later when I realized I must have been still half asleep. It's just that I never felt like I 'woke up' from it...rather the feeling of strangeness and something 'alternate' stayed with me the rest of the day.
Re: Strange
I've been hearing the Hum for a few years. It's a constant low pitched humming sound that seems loudest indoors, at night. I went to Guernsey on holiday this summer, and interestingly although the hum was still there, it was a lot fainter than usual.
I've also had some strange experiences with my alarm clock. Sometimes I will look at the clock a couple of times in the night, and the second time is earlier than the first.
My mind must be playing tricks I suppose.
I've been hearing the Hum for a few years. It's a constant low pitched humming sound that seems loudest indoors, at night. I went to Guernsey on holiday this summer, and interestingly although the hum was still there, it was a lot fainter than usual.
I've also had some strange experiences with my alarm clock. Sometimes I will look at the clock a couple of times in the night, and the second time is earlier than the first.
My mind must be playing tricks I suppose.
Buddy
The Living Force
Re: Strange
With the references to clocks and streetlamps on this thread, I thought I'd share something that arrived in my email this pm. An acquaintance who thinks me a bit weird (I have no idea why
) sent me a copy of an email from his friend overseas that included something that he thought would interest me.
The email concluded:
I don't know what was going on in 2003-2004, but for anyone who might have been involved in this work here and keeping up with Terrence Mckenna's Time Wave Calculator this might be interesting. Or not.
ref:
_http://www.timewave2012.com/
With the references to clocks and streetlamps on this thread, I thought I'd share something that arrived in my email this pm. An acquaintance who thinks me a bit weird (I have no idea why
) sent me a copy of an email from his friend overseas that included something that he thought would interest me.The email concluded:
I don't know what was going on in 2003-2004, but for anyone who might have been involved in this work here and keeping up with Terrence Mckenna's Time Wave Calculator this might be interesting. Or not.
ref:
_http://www.timewave2012.com/
durabone
Jedi Council Member
Re: Strange
Been away for awhile:
[quote author=Mjolnir ]Hi Potamus. I've got a question. Does WiFi connections create that humming effect? I've got a WiFi antenna in my roof but I also experienced that humming sometimes. I used to think that I could by due the music I'm listening but since I don't listen music really loud (because I'm very sensitive with loud sounds) I don't know if that could be a cause, even with cellphones wave frequency.[/quote]
Sorry I really don't know. I have seen Wifi set off a smoke alarm, and I have seen cel phones cause speakers to buz. Being around 60 cycle a lot, I can tell the feel, so I ask: Does it annoy anyone else that cel phone vibrators seem to vibrate at 60Hz? Feels like a 60 Hz shock, and I get these "phantom buzzes" when the phone is not in my pocket.
[quote author=Mjolnir]I find that it's quite out of range to be affected by your own heat. Otherwise it would be affected by sudden climate changes and they didn't as far as I could see. That's one of the weidest things I ever see.[/quote]
Agreed. But it could be capacitively coupled or a poorly balanced comparator. What trashes this notion for me is that many different models of light fixtures are doing the same thing. Years ago, when the switch to Sodium vapor occurred, I was convinced that it was a boon for intelligence satellites at night, as the spectral lines from an element like sodium are much easier to resolve than the prior mishmash of millions of variant white lights. Nothing but pure conjecture, a narrow band spectral device with a broadband sensor atop that must be isolated upwards to avoid stray light glints like say, a cars' headlights from extinguishing the light and causing an accident. So yes, likely out of range and field of view.
[quote author=Mjolnir]Well, that's weird... [/quote]
It'll be getting some play in a few weeks when I pile friends and kegs out on the balcony with those fickle lights!!
Been away for awhile:
[quote author=Mjolnir ]Hi Potamus. I've got a question. Does WiFi connections create that humming effect? I've got a WiFi antenna in my roof but I also experienced that humming sometimes. I used to think that I could by due the music I'm listening but since I don't listen music really loud (because I'm very sensitive with loud sounds) I don't know if that could be a cause, even with cellphones wave frequency.[/quote]
Sorry I really don't know. I have seen Wifi set off a smoke alarm, and I have seen cel phones cause speakers to buz. Being around 60 cycle a lot, I can tell the feel, so I ask: Does it annoy anyone else that cel phone vibrators seem to vibrate at 60Hz? Feels like a 60 Hz shock, and I get these "phantom buzzes" when the phone is not in my pocket.
[quote author=Mjolnir]I find that it's quite out of range to be affected by your own heat. Otherwise it would be affected by sudden climate changes and they didn't as far as I could see. That's one of the weidest things I ever see.[/quote]
Agreed. But it could be capacitively coupled or a poorly balanced comparator. What trashes this notion for me is that many different models of light fixtures are doing the same thing. Years ago, when the switch to Sodium vapor occurred, I was convinced that it was a boon for intelligence satellites at night, as the spectral lines from an element like sodium are much easier to resolve than the prior mishmash of millions of variant white lights. Nothing but pure conjecture, a narrow band spectral device with a broadband sensor atop that must be isolated upwards to avoid stray light glints like say, a cars' headlights from extinguishing the light and causing an accident. So yes, likely out of range and field of view.
[quote author=Mjolnir]Well, that's weird... [/quote]
It'll be getting some play in a few weeks when I pile friends and kegs out on the balcony with those fickle lights!!
ignis.intimus
Jedi Council Member
I was at work earlier this morning doing work inside of a network device. I spent about 5 hours working on one device in particular, but which is part of a pair (redundant devices). I'll call them device A (DA) and device B (DB). For the past several months, I have spent a lot of time working on these two devices. Much has happened, notably DA was replaced (entire chassis replacement) exactly one week ago. While working on DB something on DA failed in a way that is beyond my current understanding of electricity.
Most of my work centered around DB in a non-direct way; I was moving fiber-optic cables around that connect to DB but do not directly attach. Only at the end did I physically and directly interact with DB. DA was not involved in this work at all, since it needs to be available during this time. At the very last stage, after at least 4 hours, I did something directly on DB by removing one of its components (a line card). While the card was half-way out, a fiber-optic cable brushed up against this card. I can remember seeing it touch a grounding strip that lines the card on both sides. As soon as this happened, I heard a loud electro-mechanical POP noise* and a power-supply on DA failed. Although I have not heard that particular sound before, I have several times heard the sound of a power circuit tripping and the circuit breaker activating. It was not like this, it had very much the sound of something permanently breaking to it. Troubleshooting the issue revealed the device reporting that power-supply (there are two) failing at the same time as the sound, that the circuit-breaker on the power circuit did not trip, and that the power-supply would not work after removing and re-inserting it. It was replaced with a different power-supply and all appears to be well.
I cannot remember which fiber exactly touched, because there were several nearby. There are some fibers (3) that connect DA to DB directly. Most of these fibers connect to other devices. This work occurred within a data center environment so the humidity is controlled, which prevents electro-static discharge (ESD). I had already been touching the device as I had to remove connectors on it and slide it out. It happened as the card was half-way out, and this fiber touched it; there might have been two but I clearly remember one. I am at a loss to understand how this event on DB triggered a failure of a power-supply on DA.
When I return the part to the manufacturer, I will specifically request a failure determination - they test the unit to see what failed on it and provide additional details related to that. I will also inquire as to this specific occurrence; who knows, maybe this has happened before on their equipment. Maybe the level of sophistication regarding their power-circuit protection is much more advanced than I realize.
I really just don't know what to make of this. Even my manager, whom I had to call after this happened, said he didn't understand how that could've happened. He quickly joked that it might be karma, perhaps that escalation call I did not take over the weekend was coming back to haunt me. For some context, here is a link to a picture of the device I was working on. I was working on one of these, while the one directly above it had some sort of electrical failure. I also will have to discuss this event to some degree in our weekly meeting today so that will be interesting.
* The sound: it's hard to describe, my best guess is it was some sort of circuit-breaker (or fuse) inside of the power-supply tripping (activating) and the abrupt interruption of the flow of around 600 watts coupled with the (designed) breaking of this component caused this noise.
Most of my work centered around DB in a non-direct way; I was moving fiber-optic cables around that connect to DB but do not directly attach. Only at the end did I physically and directly interact with DB. DA was not involved in this work at all, since it needs to be available during this time. At the very last stage, after at least 4 hours, I did something directly on DB by removing one of its components (a line card). While the card was half-way out, a fiber-optic cable brushed up against this card. I can remember seeing it touch a grounding strip that lines the card on both sides. As soon as this happened, I heard a loud electro-mechanical POP noise* and a power-supply on DA failed. Although I have not heard that particular sound before, I have several times heard the sound of a power circuit tripping and the circuit breaker activating. It was not like this, it had very much the sound of something permanently breaking to it. Troubleshooting the issue revealed the device reporting that power-supply (there are two) failing at the same time as the sound, that the circuit-breaker on the power circuit did not trip, and that the power-supply would not work after removing and re-inserting it. It was replaced with a different power-supply and all appears to be well.
I cannot remember which fiber exactly touched, because there were several nearby. There are some fibers (3) that connect DA to DB directly. Most of these fibers connect to other devices. This work occurred within a data center environment so the humidity is controlled, which prevents electro-static discharge (ESD). I had already been touching the device as I had to remove connectors on it and slide it out. It happened as the card was half-way out, and this fiber touched it; there might have been two but I clearly remember one. I am at a loss to understand how this event on DB triggered a failure of a power-supply on DA.
When I return the part to the manufacturer, I will specifically request a failure determination - they test the unit to see what failed on it and provide additional details related to that. I will also inquire as to this specific occurrence; who knows, maybe this has happened before on their equipment. Maybe the level of sophistication regarding their power-circuit protection is much more advanced than I realize.
I really just don't know what to make of this. Even my manager, whom I had to call after this happened, said he didn't understand how that could've happened. He quickly joked that it might be karma, perhaps that escalation call I did not take over the weekend was coming back to haunt me. For some context, here is a link to a picture of the device I was working on. I was working on one of these, while the one directly above it had some sort of electrical failure. I also will have to discuss this event to some degree in our weekly meeting today so that will be interesting.
* The sound: it's hard to describe, my best guess is it was some sort of circuit-breaker (or fuse) inside of the power-supply tripping (activating) and the abrupt interruption of the flow of around 600 watts coupled with the (designed) breaking of this component caused this noise.
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
Hi Aaron,
If the failure is really unexplainable, maybe the universe is telling you something about your life and how the matrix intevens in your destiny. There's a chapter in the Wave 6 that deals in depth with this issue.
Hi Aaron,
If the failure is really unexplainable, maybe the universe is telling you something about your life and how the matrix intevens in your destiny. There's a chapter in the Wave 6 that deals in depth with this issue.
ignis.intimus
Jedi Council Member
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
Looks like the manufacturer will not perform a failure analysis. I talked to several people about it, and they all thought it sounded odd.
Looks like the manufacturer will not perform a failure analysis. I talked to several people about it, and they all thought it sounded odd.
dant
The Living Force
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
It sounds to me, you experienced an ESD, which might
be large enough to cause a cascade/triage effect, which
zapped an internal chip, followed by a tripped breaker due
to a blown chip. I have experienced many ESD effects, so
with careful and proper grounding, you can avoid ESD but
it is not always possible to avoid. I think the clue is the
cable(s) itself as you mentioned, and it does not have to
be metallic, it can also be plastic/rubber - as most
materials mostly likely will carry a collective charge on the
outer sheaths and will seek ground anywhere it can find
it, and will discharge itself. Suspended cables might be
part of the problem - it has no ground path. I have touched
suspended cables, being grounded myself, and experienced
being zapped.
From personal experience, I think most companies will
not do a comprehensive fault-analysis (unless you want
to pay big bucks for your specific issue/curiosity) due
economics - and it is cheaper to find the bad unit and
replace the unit outright and move on. The only time they
might do comprehensive testing, is if they get high-volume
returns, causing loss of profit, then they might take the time to
solve "grounding design failures". The goal for most companies,
I think, is to optimize return on investment (ROI).
OSIT,
Dan
It sounds to me, you experienced an ESD, which might
be large enough to cause a cascade/triage effect, which
zapped an internal chip, followed by a tripped breaker due
to a blown chip. I have experienced many ESD effects, so
with careful and proper grounding, you can avoid ESD but
it is not always possible to avoid. I think the clue is the
cable(s) itself as you mentioned, and it does not have to
be metallic, it can also be plastic/rubber - as most
materials mostly likely will carry a collective charge on the
outer sheaths and will seek ground anywhere it can find
it, and will discharge itself. Suspended cables might be
part of the problem - it has no ground path. I have touched
suspended cables, being grounded myself, and experienced
being zapped.
From personal experience, I think most companies will
not do a comprehensive fault-analysis (unless you want
to pay big bucks for your specific issue/curiosity) due
economics - and it is cheaper to find the bad unit and
replace the unit outright and move on. The only time they
might do comprehensive testing, is if they get high-volume
returns, causing loss of profit, then they might take the time to
solve "grounding design failures". The goal for most companies,
I think, is to optimize return on investment (ROI).
OSIT,
Dan
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
I would like to ask a little strange question: Do you guys feel some sort of strange energy/presence since let's say two or three days with all sort of malfunctions/accidents or breaking objects here and there?
I would like to ask a little strange question: Do you guys feel some sort of strange energy/presence since let's say two or three days with all sort of malfunctions/accidents or breaking objects here and there?
dant
The Living Force
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
Well, for me, I would say that at times it may seem that way,
but if one uses their rational mind, to observe and to gather the
data or recall the situation carefully (via analysis), use Occam's
razor, and keep 'entropy' in mind, one might arrive at a logical
conclusion?
Electronic chips (it seems to me) has a very high sensitivity to entropic
nature - they are sensitive to EM (all forms [heat, light, other?]), and they
break down quite often and for the most part, are unpredictable - also, we
forget about "time" - how long have these parts have been in use (heat/cold
cycles, part-tolerances get out of specified range due to constant temperature
cycles, bad manufacturing processes/designs, careless/ignorant handling, and a
slew of other issues), so, with that in mind, might lead one to understand
why devices fail and more often? Is it possible that devices are DESIGNED
to last 'only so long', because of the need to keep the money flowing? For
example, if a manufacturer designed a SOCK to last 20 years, do you think
that this business would stay in business for long?
Another example is the CRT TV (old TVs before the flat-screens) had a MUCH
longer lifetime (unless you got a "lemon"), as much as 10-20 years, used
simple analog parts (for the most part) whereas, chips over time started
replacing these analog components, and the consumer ended up with much
shorter lifetimes from these devices? Flat-screen TVs have an estimated lifetime
between 4-7 years, but has better viewing screen w/ higher resolution, is lighter
but still does not solve disposal problems (has more exotic/toxic chemicals than
the former or is about the same?).
I suspect, if one were to really observe carefully of the facts, these blown
devices are not necessarily caused by "strange energy/presence(s)", although
I won't rule it out completely, but I think it is less likely the primary causes.
Of course, I could be wrong, but my experiences tells me otherwise...
FWIW,
Dan
Well, for me, I would say that at times it may seem that way,
but if one uses their rational mind, to observe and to gather the
data or recall the situation carefully (via analysis), use Occam's
razor, and keep 'entropy' in mind, one might arrive at a logical
conclusion?
Electronic chips (it seems to me) has a very high sensitivity to entropic
nature - they are sensitive to EM (all forms [heat, light, other?]), and they
break down quite often and for the most part, are unpredictable - also, we
forget about "time" - how long have these parts have been in use (heat/cold
cycles, part-tolerances get out of specified range due to constant temperature
cycles, bad manufacturing processes/designs, careless/ignorant handling, and a
slew of other issues), so, with that in mind, might lead one to understand
why devices fail and more often? Is it possible that devices are DESIGNED
to last 'only so long', because of the need to keep the money flowing? For
example, if a manufacturer designed a SOCK to last 20 years, do you think
that this business would stay in business for long?
Another example is the CRT TV (old TVs before the flat-screens) had a MUCH
longer lifetime (unless you got a "lemon"), as much as 10-20 years, used
simple analog parts (for the most part) whereas, chips over time started
replacing these analog components, and the consumer ended up with much
shorter lifetimes from these devices? Flat-screen TVs have an estimated lifetime
between 4-7 years, but has better viewing screen w/ higher resolution, is lighter
but still does not solve disposal problems (has more exotic/toxic chemicals than
the former or is about the same?).
I suspect, if one were to really observe carefully of the facts, these blown
devices are not necessarily caused by "strange energy/presence(s)", although
I won't rule it out completely, but I think it is less likely the primary causes.
Of course, I could be wrong, but my experiences tells me otherwise...
FWIW,
Dan
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
Well, in my experience, weird stuff happens. I've seen heavy duty networking equipment behave in a physically impossible way, and then magically start working again once the people working on it took a break for lunch. I've seen computers (new, old, doesn't matter) not work at all for one person, and then another person uses it and it's fine. Then Person A returns, and it "breaks". I've also seen angry people break computers by simply using them, and then again I've seen angry people who "love" their computers and who can use them without a problem despite being really mad. I've even seen motherboards "die", only to be re-installed in another computer and they magically start working as if nothing was wrong. Before I moved this particular motherboard, I tried different power supplies, measured the voltages, and other such things to try to eliminate other possible reasons for the failure. If I had been logical about it, I would have thrown the motherboard away because it was clearly dead. Instead, it is to this day still working great in a different machine! And the original machine with only a new motherboard has also been working great since then.
In short, it seems to me that there is "something" in people that affects electronic devices. My theory is that there is something about people - be it psychic energy, something to do with consciousness, or whatever - that interacts with electrical and electronic devices in ways that we don't quite understand yet. That's not really hard to imagine given that we don't even understand how gravity really works. Actually, I don't think we as a species understand anything about anything, now that I think about it.
As a result, I never discount the possibility that there is something else at work outside of the reasons you have given. Sure, sometimes it's pretty clear that there was a failure in some component. Replace the component, things work again. But very frequently, it doesn't work that way at all for me. So, when strange things happen, I just pat the device and tell it that it's a good boy/girl, and go about my business.
Your mileage may vary (a lot).
dant said:
Well, in my experience, weird stuff happens. I've seen heavy duty networking equipment behave in a physically impossible way, and then magically start working again once the people working on it took a break for lunch. I've seen computers (new, old, doesn't matter) not work at all for one person, and then another person uses it and it's fine. Then Person A returns, and it "breaks". I've also seen angry people break computers by simply using them, and then again I've seen angry people who "love" their computers and who can use them without a problem despite being really mad. I've even seen motherboards "die", only to be re-installed in another computer and they magically start working as if nothing was wrong. Before I moved this particular motherboard, I tried different power supplies, measured the voltages, and other such things to try to eliminate other possible reasons for the failure. If I had been logical about it, I would have thrown the motherboard away because it was clearly dead. Instead, it is to this day still working great in a different machine! And the original machine with only a new motherboard has also been working great since then.
In short, it seems to me that there is "something" in people that affects electronic devices. My theory is that there is something about people - be it psychic energy, something to do with consciousness, or whatever - that interacts with electrical and electronic devices in ways that we don't quite understand yet. That's not really hard to imagine given that we don't even understand how gravity really works. Actually, I don't think we as a species understand anything about anything, now that I think about it.
As a result, I never discount the possibility that there is something else at work outside of the reasons you have given. Sure, sometimes it's pretty clear that there was a failure in some component. Replace the component, things work again. But very frequently, it doesn't work that way at all for me. So, when strange things happen, I just pat the device and tell it that it's a good boy/girl, and go about my business.
Your mileage may vary (a lot).
dant
The Living Force
Re: Seemingly odd electronic device failure
Hahaha! It IS a funny world, and may the C's be laughing
at our perceptions and thought processes, perhaps!?!?
Maybe we will figure it out iff and when we get to 4D!? :D
And yep - mileage do vary! :D
Dunno - always keep an open mind, I guess.
...and yes, I noticed the BLUE signature! :D :D :D
Hahaha! It IS a funny world, and may the C's be laughing
at our perceptions and thought processes, perhaps!?!?
Maybe we will figure it out iff and when we get to 4D!? :D
And yep - mileage do vary! :D
Dunno - always keep an open mind, I guess.
...and yes, I noticed the BLUE signature! :D :D :D
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