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Q: (L) This body of comets?
Q: (L) This body of comets?
The usage of ‘this’ is interesting here, but instead of looking at the dictionary entry, we will look at a grammar instead, called the ‘Collins Cobuild English Grammar:
Wait, that can’t be right, the comets are not close in place or time, so why did the questioner use ‘this’?
Well, there is another entry:
Ok, so the questioner uses ‘this’ in the above meaning, where they are indicating that they are referring to the same comets as ones mentioned before, but, before we determine exactly which ones, I would just like to ascertain why the questioner uses ‘this’ and not ‘that’?
What’s the difference between ‘this body of comets’ and ‘that body of comets’?
Well, if we think about it, ‘this’ DOES bring a sense of closeness, but not in literal space and time, but in terms of the abstract space and time in the discussion that is taking place.
The questioner and the C’s are engaged in a hypothetical construct, a “bubble” where, in an abstract sense, there are rules that are separate from, and can be referred to distinctly apart from, the physical universe where we are.
This will become important when I will discuss this “separation” as a cultural phenomenon at a later date…
For now, let’s think about the difference in meaning of ‘this’ from ‘that’:
Using ‘that’ gives the impression that the questioner is referring to some other discussion, or THAT which someone else has brought up, maybe even a part of the discussion that is “further away” (as in, further back in time) than ‘this one’. In other words, ‘this’ brings the two topics closer together in the “hypothetical Universe” of their discussion.
So, it is quite clear that the questioner used ‘this’ to refer to the same comets that were just mentioned, but which ones?
Is it the following?
No, it makes little sense that the questioner would want to reaffirm that the body of comets referred to as ‘this’ is the same ones as the ‘body’ that the Sumerians refer to, since the C’s have just answered that.
It is more likely that ‘this’ refers to:
It seems logical that the questioner would want to reaffirm that the comets which “are determined by external vibrational events”, the comets that “recur like clockwork”, the ones that are a “regular pulsation”, the ones that have “their own orbit”, and that “orbit around the sun”, which “come into the plane of the ecliptic once every 3,600 years”, are indeed the same as the ones that are recorded in Sumerian myth.
I say that because when the questioner talks about Sumerians, the topic of conversation shifted slightly, from “regular dyings” to “Sumerian records”, and the questioner wants to verify that they are the very same object across two subjects.
This “topical change” that has been identified here, through the use of ‘this’ in this particular instance, tells us something very interesting about how the questioner categorises these “schemas” in her mind. It tells us that the questioner views the “topic” preceding the Sumerians as being different.
This doesn’t seem like a very interesting fact in itself, but IF the questioner was asking about the regularity of dyings exactly as Sitchin proposes, using HIS conceptual framework, then the “Sumerian topic” wouldn’t have been differentiated in the questioner’s mind, and there would be no reason to confirm that these two topics converge.
Further on, in the next question, they will want to ascertain WHERE these topics converge.
This indicates that the questioner, while knowing about Sitchin’s theory, still has their own ideas about the wider world of concepts in general, hence the differentiation. I would propose then that:
Is in fact the questioner’s OWN theory, one that includes Sitchin’s theory, but one where Sitchin is just one element, and one that is most probably a “consensus of a plethora of conceptual networks”, or an amalgamation of many theories, the ONE that makes the most sense, pulled from the various pieces that are deemed most likely, plausible, and where the evidence leads.
This means that the above statement is actually a result of a lot of homework, which would account for its preciseness and complex linguistic structure.
You notice that the C’s give the most worded answer here?
They are mirroring, the more a given question is the result of blood, sweat and tears, the more information the C’s give in response, or, rather, the more dynamic their answers are.
I will present my hypothesis for why this is so:
The more homework one does, then the more there is a synthesis of disparate, yet related schemas in one’s mind. Each schema represents a different avenue, and is dissected, analysed and evaluated by the C’s in terms of accuracy according to the relative closeness of each schema to the objective truth, then they articulate a response in a way that will account for all the deviancies from said objectivity, and each word holds dynamic, complex and non-linear interrelations of meaning that vouches for each discrete schema.
Putting it simply, say you’ve read Velikovsky and you ask a question about it. The C’s will answer according to the accuracy of Velikovsky’s theories.
But say you’ve read Velikovsky and Sitchin, and you’ve created a synthesis of these two theories in your mind, and you ask a question about the synthesis. The C’s will account for the varying inaccuracies of both theories, and will give an answer that allows the questioner to see the shortcomings of both theories, hence the more complex answer of:
Put in that light, is it becoming apparent to us how masterful the C’s are using the English language?
But, do we remember what purpose this answer served? It put doubt in the mind of the questioner, which implies a degree of uncertainty, or insecurity about the hypothesis, meaning that the synthesis wasn’t strong enough. The C’s appear to be saying: “Ok, good job, but there is more, here’s what you need to get started…” Isn’t that the most apt thing they could’ve done at that point?
By using ‘Other’, where the ambiguity…
…lead the questioner to assume the latter (doubt) instead of assuming the former. This means it was the questioner who KNOWS inside themselves that the synthesis still had room for growth, the C’s merely activated the questioner’s own introspection, and the questioner, using their OWN powers, their OWN world of concepts, guided by their OWN free will, they CHOSE and pressed onwards.
Now, back to the question “this body of comets?”…
This answer can now be extrapolated as:
Now, why the affirmation? Is it pretty clear that this is the case? Well, given the need to double check, we can hypothesise that, when the questioner heard the last response that the Sumerians meant comets, that they immediately understood the immense gravity of it, and how it basically tears Sitchin’s theories to pieces, as I have explained in the last post.
This is important for 2 reasons. One, it took me, the analyst, a full investigation to understand the emotional weight of the session, one that is lost on the reader unless careful attention is paid. It means that there is a whole world of learning and emotional processing that the reader cannot have access to unless we partake in similar works ourselves, this puts the onus, for me at least, to go and experience this often painful process for myself, which this investigation is the culmination of.
Two, this tells us something about the questioner. There are those who will “shut down” cognitive processes upon hearing something that implies such a grand reconfiguration is due, but the questioner seems to be stimulated by it. The questioner’s interest only grows from here on out, indeed, the idea of needing a vast reconfiguration of ideas is exciting, fun, and enjoyable to her.
I would like to now expand the series of answers about the Sumerians into complete sentences:
Means:
Or, if we take the “plural Clusters anomaly” into account:
There is another reason why there is a huge difference between orbits of planets vs orbits of comets. Comets get “used up” as they smash into planets, new bolides would have to come with each new cycle, whereas planets would keep going round and round, and a collision would about a certain end to such an orbit, but, if no collisions take place, it’ll be the same planet every cycle, but different clusters of comets will be introduced to each cycle (Unless they don’t hit anything…).
This gives some weight to our hypothesis for why the C’s said “clusters” instead of “cluster”.
Next:
Means...
Robin
Q: (L) This body of comets?
The usage of ‘this’ is interesting here, but instead of looking at the dictionary entry, we will look at a grammar instead, called the ‘Collins Cobuild English Grammar:
Collins Cobuild English Grammar said:1.182 You use the specific determiners ‘this;, ‘that’, ‘these’, and ‘those’ to refer to people or things in a definite way. You use ‘this’ and ‘these’ to talk about people and things that are close to you in place or time. When you talk about people or things that are more distant in place or time, you use ‘that’ and ‘those’.
You put ‘this’ and ‘that’ in front of singular nouns, uncount nouns, and the singular pronoun ‘one’. You put ‘these’ and ‘those’ in front of plural nouns and the plural pronoun ‘ones’. ‘This’, ‘that’, ‘these’ and ‘those’ are often called demonstratives or demonstrative adjectives.
Wait, that can’t be right, the comets are not close in place or time, so why did the questioner use ‘this’?
Well, there is another entry:
Collins Cobuild English Grammar said:1.187 You can indicate that you are referring to the same person or thing you have just mentioned by using ‘this’, ‘that’, ‘these’, or those in front of a noun. For example, if you have just mentioned a girl, you can refer to her as ‘this girl’ or ‘that girl’ the second time you mention her. Normally, you use a pronoun to refer to someone or something you have just mentioned but sometimes you cannot do this because it might not be clear who or what the pronoun refers to.
Students and staff suggest books for the library, and normally we’re quite happy to get those books.
Their house is in a valley. The people in that valley speak about the people in the next valley as ‘foreigners’.
They had a lot of diamonds, and they asked her if she could possibly get these diamonds to Britain.
Ok, so the questioner uses ‘this’ in the above meaning, where they are indicating that they are referring to the same comets as ones mentioned before, but, before we determine exactly which ones, I would just like to ascertain why the questioner uses ‘this’ and not ‘that’?
What’s the difference between ‘this body of comets’ and ‘that body of comets’?
Well, if we think about it, ‘this’ DOES bring a sense of closeness, but not in literal space and time, but in terms of the abstract space and time in the discussion that is taking place.
The questioner and the C’s are engaged in a hypothetical construct, a “bubble” where, in an abstract sense, there are rules that are separate from, and can be referred to distinctly apart from, the physical universe where we are.
This will become important when I will discuss this “separation” as a cultural phenomenon at a later date…
For now, let’s think about the difference in meaning of ‘this’ from ‘that’:
This body of comets? -> That body of comets?
Using ‘that’ gives the impression that the questioner is referring to some other discussion, or THAT which someone else has brought up, maybe even a part of the discussion that is “further away” (as in, further back in time) than ‘this one’. In other words, ‘this’ brings the two topics closer together in the “hypothetical Universe” of their discussion.
So, it is quite clear that the questioner used ‘this’ to refer to the same comets that were just mentioned, but which ones?
Is it the following?
What body were the Sumerians talking about when they described the “Planet of the Crossing” or Nibiru?
No, it makes little sense that the questioner would want to reaffirm that the body of comets referred to as ‘this’ is the same ones as the ‘body’ that the Sumerians refer to, since the C’s have just answered that.
It is more likely that ‘this’ refers to:
A: Cometary showers.
It seems logical that the questioner would want to reaffirm that the comets which “are determined by external vibrational events”, the comets that “recur like clockwork”, the ones that are a “regular pulsation”, the ones that have “their own orbit”, and that “orbit around the sun”, which “come into the plane of the ecliptic once every 3,600 years”, are indeed the same as the ones that are recorded in Sumerian myth.
I say that because when the questioner talks about Sumerians, the topic of conversation shifted slightly, from “regular dyings” to “Sumerian records”, and the questioner wants to verify that they are the very same object across two subjects.
This “topical change” that has been identified here, through the use of ‘this’ in this particular instance, tells us something very interesting about how the questioner categorises these “schemas” in her mind. It tells us that the questioner views the “topic” preceding the Sumerians as being different.
This doesn’t seem like a very interesting fact in itself, but IF the questioner was asking about the regularity of dyings exactly as Sitchin proposes, using HIS conceptual framework, then the “Sumerian topic” wouldn’t have been differentiated in the questioner’s mind, and there would be no reason to confirm that these two topics converge.
Further on, in the next question, they will want to ascertain WHERE these topics converge.
This indicates that the questioner, while knowing about Sitchin’s theory, still has their own ideas about the wider world of concepts in general, hence the differentiation. I would propose then that:
Is it true that at regular intervals the sun radiates massive amounts of electromagnetic energy, which then causes the planets of the solar system to interact with one another to a greater or lesser extent?
Is in fact the questioner’s OWN theory, one that includes Sitchin’s theory, but one where Sitchin is just one element, and one that is most probably a “consensus of a plethora of conceptual networks”, or an amalgamation of many theories, the ONE that makes the most sense, pulled from the various pieces that are deemed most likely, plausible, and where the evidence leads.
This means that the above statement is actually a result of a lot of homework, which would account for its preciseness and complex linguistic structure.
You notice that the C’s give the most worded answer here?
They are mirroring, the more a given question is the result of blood, sweat and tears, the more information the C’s give in response, or, rather, the more dynamic their answers are.
I will present my hypothesis for why this is so:
The more homework one does, then the more there is a synthesis of disparate, yet related schemas in one’s mind. Each schema represents a different avenue, and is dissected, analysed and evaluated by the C’s in terms of accuracy according to the relative closeness of each schema to the objective truth, then they articulate a response in a way that will account for all the deviancies from said objectivity, and each word holds dynamic, complex and non-linear interrelations of meaning that vouches for each discrete schema.
Putting it simply, say you’ve read Velikovsky and you ask a question about it. The C’s will answer according to the accuracy of Velikovsky’s theories.
But say you’ve read Velikovsky and Sitchin, and you’ve created a synthesis of these two theories in your mind, and you ask a question about the synthesis. The C’s will account for the varying inaccuracies of both theories, and will give an answer that allows the questioner to see the shortcomings of both theories, hence the more complex answer of:
Other irregular pulsations determined by external vibrational events.
Put in that light, is it becoming apparent to us how masterful the C’s are using the English language?
But, do we remember what purpose this answer served? It put doubt in the mind of the questioner, which implies a degree of uncertainty, or insecurity about the hypothesis, meaning that the synthesis wasn’t strong enough. The C’s appear to be saying: “Ok, good job, but there is more, here’s what you need to get started…” Isn’t that the most apt thing they could’ve done at that point?
By using ‘Other’, where the ambiguity…
Cobuild Dictionary said:You use other to refer to an additional thing or person of the same type as one that has been mentioned or known about.
Cobuild Dictionary said:You use other to indicate that a thing or person is not the one already mentioned , but a different one.
…lead the questioner to assume the latter (doubt) instead of assuming the former. This means it was the questioner who KNOWS inside themselves that the synthesis still had room for growth, the C’s merely activated the questioner’s own introspection, and the questioner, using their OWN powers, their OWN world of concepts, guided by their OWN free will, they CHOSE and pressed onwards.
Now, back to the question “this body of comets?”…
This answer can now be extrapolated as:
You mean the body of comets that we’ve been talking about so far?
Now, why the affirmation? Is it pretty clear that this is the case? Well, given the need to double check, we can hypothesise that, when the questioner heard the last response that the Sumerians meant comets, that they immediately understood the immense gravity of it, and how it basically tears Sitchin’s theories to pieces, as I have explained in the last post.
This is important for 2 reasons. One, it took me, the analyst, a full investigation to understand the emotional weight of the session, one that is lost on the reader unless careful attention is paid. It means that there is a whole world of learning and emotional processing that the reader cannot have access to unless we partake in similar works ourselves, this puts the onus, for me at least, to go and experience this often painful process for myself, which this investigation is the culmination of.
Two, this tells us something about the questioner. There are those who will “shut down” cognitive processes upon hearing something that implies such a grand reconfiguration is due, but the questioner seems to be stimulated by it. The questioner’s interest only grows from here on out, indeed, the idea of needing a vast reconfiguration of ideas is exciting, fun, and enjoyable to her.
I would like to now expand the series of answers about the Sumerians into complete sentences:
A: Comets
Means:
A: The body that the Sumerians were talking about when they described the “planet of the Crossing” or Nibiru was a body of comets.
Or, if we take the “plural Clusters anomaly” into account:
A: The regular cycle of dyings that the Sumerians referred to as the “planet of the Crossing” or Nibiru ware bodies of comets.
There is another reason why there is a huge difference between orbits of planets vs orbits of comets. Comets get “used up” as they smash into planets, new bolides would have to come with each new cycle, whereas planets would keep going round and round, and a collision would about a certain end to such an orbit, but, if no collisions take place, it’ll be the same planet every cycle, but different clusters of comets will be introduced to each cycle (Unless they don’t hit anything…).
This gives some weight to our hypothesis for why the C’s said “clusters” instead of “cluster”.
Next:
A: Yes
Means...
A: The comets that we’ve been discussing, the ones that recur like clockwork, that follow their own orbits around the sun, the ones that come into the plane of the ecliptic every 3,600 years, are in fact the same bodies that the Sumerian myths about Nibiru refer to.
Robin