The Brutality of War and Life

[Corvus]

I came across this videos, they are graphic so be warned, but just show how much the world is messed up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQkR-EQOpbo


“Only the dead have seen the end of war.”

Plato

"War is sweet to those that have no experience of it"

Pindar

Bella! Horrida bella! - War! Horrid War! (Virgil - Virgil - Aeneid, VI, 86)

I am reminded of the WWI and how they held parades before wars soldiers smiling thinking it will be over for a few days. Many of those are not even conscious of what are they letting themselves in and learn too late, but still I can not be conscious emotionally because I did not live through it, but when you hear people glorifying it and seeing it only through movies and describing it with empty words you come to realize how most people are detached from reality not only with their minds but on emotional level also, how many people are dead out there while the whole world comes to ruins and they being concerned with trivial things and panicking about them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2FJfT6kc34

In a way I understand when Cs said that it will be a lesson for most because without some big disturbing shocks there is no awakening and questioning of oneself and the world. It is a really jungle out there with bloodthirsty animals in charge that are only concerned for their next meal while the reality is becoming more alien by the day(not that it was not before) and people incomprehensible. Was it all knowledge spreading worth it I wonder because most do not want it and can not have it so just spreading it looks paradoxical if there are not instruments to cope it and most people lack them. It was in the end only for the minority as a remnant of what it means to be human beings when it is all gone, that is the only purpose here that is left when you look with the eyes of a grown men.

 

[LQB]

In a way I understand when Cs said that it will be a lesson for most because without some big disturbing shocks there is no awakening and questioning of oneself and the world. It is a really jungle out there with bloodthirsty animals in charge that are only concerned for their next meal while the reality is becoming more alien by the day(not that it was not before) and people incomprehensible. Was it all knowledge spreading worth it I wonder because most do not want it and can not have it so just spreading it looks paradoxical if there are not instruments to cope it and most people lack them. It was in the end only for the minority as a remnant of what it means to be human beings when it is all gone, that is the only purpose here that is left when you look with the eyes of a grown men.

While listening to CSPAN2 book discussion by Sebastian Junger about his 2016 book, Tribe - On Homecoming and Belonging, I noticed some very interesting observations. He talks much about what war does to human military participants (pre-war - war - post war), but most interesting to me were his interviews with the non-military participants/residents that had to endure economic collapse, dangerous shelling/military action, and a completely destroyed infrastructure (the Balkans for example).

These local residents survived in small tribes in which the "normal" self-interest gave way to much selfless action/concern/being for the "tribe". He interviewed many of of these non-military residents years after the war/collapse events and was surprised to find so many that stated that they were much happier/fulfilled during these terrible times even though they essentially had nothing in an environment of day-to-day survival. In returning to "normal" life, they had lost this tribal connection.

 

[Corvus]

It seems there is always some balance in play and that the fastest and deepest way for normal people to unite is through mutual suffering.