The bull in mythology as symbol for the psychopath?

Jeremy F Kreuz

Dagobah Resident
While reading the section on the Minotaur in the ´Secret history of the world´ I started to think about a possible link between bull and psychopath. Could it be that the image of the bull in myths and legends stands for the psychopath and one of the main tasks of the seeker is to ´kill´ the psychopath? For that the seeker would have to enter (understand) the labyrinth (the psychology of) the psychopath, battle with it and defeat it.

Researching the topic I found some possible clues:

• The image of the bull, or half bull – half man, can be found in serveral parts of the world

Sarangay is a creature resembling a bull with a huge muscular body and a jewel attached to its ears.[1] It is the Philippine counterpart for the Greek minotaur. They are illustrated to be half bull and half man. According to old folklore, Sarangays have a jewel or a precious gemstone in their ears that they are protecting. Those who try to steal it from them will be killed mercilessly. It was also said that when a Sarangay gets angry, its nose emits smoke


The Ushi-Oni (牛鬼?, Ox Oni (demon)), or gyūki, is a creature which appears in the folklore of Japan. There are various kinds of ushi-oni, all of them some sort of monster with a horned, bovine head.

• Bulls in mythology are for the most part associated with evil. They are ferocious and wild.

The Canaanite (and later Carthaginian) deity Moloch was often depicted as a bull, and became a bull demon in Abrahamic traditions.

As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents. The Moloch sacrifices have traditionally been understood to mean burning children alive to the god Moloch

Note: Moloch or Ba´al were often depicted as a bull.

the Minotaur (Greek for "Bull of Minos"), whom the Greeks imagined as a man with the head of a bull at the center of the labyrinth. Minotaur was fabled to be born of the Queen and a bull, bringing the king to build the labyrinth to hide his family's shame. Living in solitude made the boy wild and ferocious, unable to be tamed or beaten.

• This previous quote brings also the theme that the bull is sometimes a mixture of god and man. Like the psychopath could be a human (genetic) image of the nature of the overlords of entropy.

• Bulls seem the most loyal followers of the gods

The bull Nandi is Shiva's primary vehicle and is the principal gana (follower) of Shiva.

• Previous quote also mentions they are the ´primary vehicle´ This makes me think of the idea that the psychopath it the primary tool of the overlords of entropy by which they dominate 3D earth and sap the energies of humanity.

The lamassu is a celestial being from Mesopotamian mythology. Human above the waist and a bull below the waist, it also has the horns and the ears of a bull. It appears frequently in Mesopotamian art, sometimes with wings. The lamassu and shedu were household protective spirits of the common Babylonian people. Later during the Babylonian period they became the protectors of kings as well always placed at the entrance. Statues of the bull-man were often used as gatekeepers

The Apis bull was considered to be a manifestation of the pharaoh, as bulls were symbols of strength and fertility, qualities which are closely linked with kingship

Baʿal" can refer to any god and even to human officials

Baʿal ul bayt in modern Levantine Arabic is widely used to mean the head of the household, literally 'Master of the House' and has a somewhat jocular, semi-mocking connotation.

• Gods sometime descend on earth in the form of the bull.

Zeus (…) in the form of a bull that came forth from the sea, abducted the high-born Phoenician Europa and brought her, significantly, to Crete.

Dionysus was another god of resurrection who was strongly linked to the bull. In a cult hymn from Olympia, at a festival for Hera, Dionysus is also invited to come as a bull, "with bull-foot raging." "Quite frequently he is portrayed with bull horns, and in Kyzikos he has a tauromorphic image,

• Gods send a bull to earth to create chaos and havoc:

Gilgamesh rejects the advances of the goddess Ishtar because of her mistreatment of previous lovers like Dumuzi. Ishtar asks her father Anu to send Gugalanna the "Bull of Heaven" to avenge her. (…) The bull of heaven is led to Uruk by Ishtar, and causes widespread devastation. It dries up the reed beds and marshes, than dramatically lowers the level of the Euphrates river. It opens up huge pits in the ground that swallow 300 men.

• The heroes in the myths slay the bull and peace returns to the land.

Enkidu and Gilgamesh attack and slay the beast (bull) without any divine assistance and offer up its heart to Shamash. (…) The city of Uruk celebrates, (…)

The druids hold nothing more sacred than the mistletoe and a tree on which it is growing (…) Mistletoe is rare and when found it is gathered with great ceremony (…) they prepare a ritual sacrifice and banquet beneath a tree and bring up two white bulls, whose horns are bound for the first time on this occasion. A priest arrayed in white vestments climbs the tree and, with a golden sickle, cuts down the mistletoe, which is caught in a white cloak. Then finally they kill the victims, praying to a god to render his gift propitious to those on whom he has bestowed it.

• In later literature the bull has characteristics of the psychopath

The Minotaur, appears briefly in Dante's Inferno, Canto 12,11-15, where, picking their way among boulders dislodged on the slope and preparing to enter into the Seventh Circle, Dante and Virgil, his guide, encounter the beast first among those damned for their violent natures, the "men of blood"

Like some other gods and demons found in the Bible, Moloch appears as part of medieval demonology, as a Prince of Hell. This Moloch finds particular pleasure in making mothers weep; he specializes in stealing their children.

In writings of the so-called Munich Cosmic Circle the name Moloch was used to symbolize a hostile to life, emotionally cold and intellectualist principle.

• In modern language a bully is

1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.
2. Archaic . a man hired to do violence.
3. Obsolete . a pimp; procurer.
4. Obsolete . good friend; good fellow.
5. Obsolete . sweetheart; darling.
verb (used with object)
6. to act the bully toward; intimidate; domineer.

To bully: To use one's strength against someone who is weaker either by strength, power, energy in general, that could be financial as well as criminal.

All this could lead to the idea that the bull could stand for the psychopath. The following quote from Bernard Russell from ´A free Man´s Worship´ seems to describe the psychopath as a useful tool of the gods pretty well and how he worked hard to promote the religion of the bull. At the end the psychopath is also cattle, maybe a bit stronger and fiercer than the cow, but cattle after all.

The savage, like ourselves, feels the oppression of his impotence before the powers of Nature; but having in himself nothing that he respects more than Power, he is willing to prostrate himself before his gods, without inquiring whether they are worthy of his worship. Pathetic and very terrible is the long history of cruelty and torture, of degradation and human sacrifice, endured in the hope of placating the jealous gods: surely, the trembling believer thinks, when what is most precious has been freely given, their lust for blood must be appeased, and more will not be required. The religion of Moloch — as such creeds may be generically called — is in essence the cringing submission of the slave, who dare not, even in his heart, allow the thought that his master deserves no adulation. Since the independence of ideals is not yet acknowledged, Power may be freely worshipped, and receive an unlimited respect, despite its wanton infliction of pain.

FWIW: this may all be BS

Mod: fixed quotes
 
Hello Jeremy F Kreuz,
As i understand it, and i could be off, the bull in the anciant times may have represented life force. J. Campbell noted that the horns of the bull represent the moon, the cyclical aspect of life in the course of time (biological life).
The minotaure is the result of some fault, and the consequence of it is a merging of the human aspect with the animal aspect (maybe spirit with matter). And the journey into the labyrinth inside us leads to confront this "anomaly" inside us, and get rid of the attachement to the animal aspect within our psyche. OSIT
 
Interesting theory. One thing that piqued my curiosity was the concept of the bull as a vehicle for the "gods". It made me wonder if something characteristic about certain types of people, be it psychopaths or other, allow for easy possession by hyperdimesional entities, allowing such entities to directly manipulate and otherwise site up scenarios through a surrogate.

When we think of vehicle, we think of something we can enter or ride upon to take us somewhere.

Perhaps such a type of person is an empty vessel, void of a soul or somesuch, susceptible to being taken over or controlled to deliver something to a destination, like a vehicle.

This also makes me think of other mythological creatures that are part man, part animal. Could the animal portion be symbolic of an attribute or an indication of some form of hyperdimensional influence or activity?

Thanks for pulling this together and sharing. Much to think about.

Btw, your quotes are broken. You might want to go in and repair the opening quote code, removing the slash.

Gonzo
 
Maybe it was only symbolic of subduing an undesirable male aspect?
That came to mind when viewing those paintings of the Etruscan's I think it was ceremonially jumping over bulls, as if symbolically "rising above" or passing over the particular aspect the bull represents. It may or may not have some relation to this idea below.

"This view of Nature, is radically different from the common view of Nature which speaks of Nature as neuter gender,( genderless) calls Nature deaf, dumb and blind and unconscious and prattles about man being Nature's superior and master, and which says, that human art is an improvement upon Nature.

Yet, if we were to think that the great laws of creation were purposely split into.. and play out in the symbolism of gender..male and female, "Man and Women" as physical forms, embodying the unseen caricaturist's of nature forces, the understanding of the separate roles of gender, might be more clear. Male or Female, these are our only choices, and all that is needed. One is the entire half, of the other, and both steer the direction of this planet.

Each human form, holds within its self or resembles, either a male or a female, which is the "symbolism" of it`s given portion of creation, and is charged to carry it`s own "aspect" forth and to live it.
Male and female, are simply the terminology used for the separate "forces" that embody both our physical forms and the invisible presence/impulses of Nature...on this earth.

Nature is reflected or imaged in us and not vice versa. Nature was not designed for us, we are the design of Nature, not only to act out her highest principles, but to reflect them into the world of which we are a part.
Simply put, the "male impulse" coming from nature itself is more easily absorbed and acted on in the male body/form, which was specifically designed to accept that particular expression of Nature.
The male impulse, naturally being the opposite of the female impulse, was meant to support the feminine, to guard it, and to allow it`s own expression in the world, as a perfect balance.

The feminine impulse was designed for birth and for nurturing of life, the male impulse is for keeping the natural balance and is expressed by death, and destruction, which then allowed for renewal, and rebirth.

In this sense, we can define Nature as the Great Mother and that implies the idea that Nature is a continuity, a single system of forces, as opposed to all ideas of a break in the phenomena we observe. All the world over, it was the same way."
 
JFK said:
While reading the section on the Minotaur in the ´Secret history of the world´ I started to think about a possible link between bull and psychopath. Could it be that the image of the bull in myths and legends stands for the psychopath and one of the main tasks of the seeker is to ´kill´ the psychopath? For that the seeker would have to enter (understand) the labyrinth (the psychology of) the psychopath, battle with it and defeat it.

The bull is a symbol of man’s instinctive-motor center. It is the center of will and survival. A minotaur is a being ruled by physical desire and survival. A psychopath is a minotaur, but a minotaur is not necessarily a psychopath. There are many men and women who are minotaurs, but they are not psychopaths although their behavior might be psychopathic when it is motivated by physical desire and survival alone.

These are my words after a vivid dream when I and a group of craftsman directed by a beautiful black minotaur were building an arena outside a cathedral. I asked a workman who was going to fight in the arena. The workman told me it was I. Shocked I rushed to the cathedral, but the stained glass windows would not open. I escaped by hiding under a load of scrap lumber leaving the arena. The workmen spotted me and I was pursued through the labyrinth of city streets. I eventually escaped over the city wall and into the wilderness. The course of my life was changed by the minotaur dream. It was a beginning of effort to understand the inner man.
 
Just back from Barcelona. Exhausted travelling, but more than worth it (thank you so much to Laura and Ark and all the team... will post further thoughts on appropriate thread).

Determined to become a more active forum member, hence the following; please excuse if it comes out like a gush but I have a head only for bed but I wanted to contribute something tonight to this most interesting and important discussion.

Jeremy I would suggest you are way off beam whilst also being onto something vital!

I have been studying bull mythology for quite a while now as I think it holds many symbolic keys relating to the dismantling of our onetime state of being/consciousness and our relationship to the natural order, a process which took place over many thousands of years and which at the same time saw the unleashing of psychopathology onto the unsuspecting world.

Much as history is the propaganda of the victor, so mythology, (in the form it comes down to us), is invariable the ghost of a deep knowledge system which has been manipulated by a later cultural victor to suit their own particular needs. Yet the cleansing is rarely that thorough (for otherwise the manipulation of knowledge would breakdown) and thus the symbolism of most inherited ancient mythology contains tell-tell signs of the brutalisation of the original source. Fundamentally a great deal of bull mythology is saturated in the stain of the dismembering of the Great Mother Goddess consciousness by the masculinised, monotheistic (sacrificial/psychopathic) left brain mindset that first erupted across the near east circa 5-4,000BC and which gathered momentum over the ensuing millennia. These myths mark the slow but relentless erasing of her benign influence and the creation of controlling religions which eventually leads to Christianity (it is worth noting that Jesus was often secretly referred to as the new cosmic bull, a way of attempting to usurp the ancient power of the bull symbol).

The point of inevitable defeat is perhaps most poignantly reached in the bull’s last great outpost of Crete, where the previously pre-eminent figure succumbs to a disturbing finale at the hands of the invading Dorians (following the bronze age comet induced collapse); the Minotaur is a symptom of the new dysfunction and Theseus is only a hero in terms of the new paradigm (note how he abandons the goddess figure, Ariadne, once he has used her to defeat her own bull brother, etc; amongst other clues, note how it is some kind of sexual shame that unleashes the monster – a shame perpetrated by the mother, Pasiphae, the great bull goddess herself). The story we have received is twisted propaganda. It has been shaped to suit the victorious Greek mindset which was the last culture to maintain an uncomfortable bridgehead between the two worlds (whilst still onrushing relentlessly towards misogynistic monotheism). Do not be fooled by Greek mythology; yes they were smart enough to seize upon the wisdom of the ancients but they created effective control over them by propagandizing their stories and dismantling their original sources/meaning systems.

Almost all world cultures succumbed to the onrush of psychopathology and its key target was the defeat of the Bull.

For at the bottom line the Bull is the key symbol of the great mother i.e. the full, intelligent, knowing, benevolent, vital, life force of creative nature. As such it is a symbol of expanding consciousness. The bull represents her presence manifest as virile life on this planet. He is the original ‘child’ or ‘son’ or ‘consort’ of the god(ess). His sexuality is irrelevant in so much as he is her power manifest on earth. She/he are one. The Greeks would later water this concept down and call it Zoe and Bios (the source of all life and manifest life itself).

As such its ferocious power is seen as benign, generous, spontaneous, eruptive, life giving. Dangerous, yes; sexually charged, yes; but essentially joyous and to be embraced.

One of the most important associated images was that of a swarm of bees erupting from the carcass of the bull symbolising, amongst other things, the capacity for self regeneration, return, renewal, the harmony of interconnectedness and the deep connection bee symbolism had to higher density knowledge, that is the complete Goddess of divine being (i.e. true knowledge). The capacity of the Great Goddess to communicate throughout the life force and to renew herself in highly evolved and complex forms.

The bull was pure (sometimes white) and yet dark (light and dark embraced, aka the moon, as being symbolic of the cyclical nature of being, of life and death and rebirth); the horns (1+3) could frame and hold manifest the emergence of the great disc of illumination – the bridging logos (2), the light of cosmic awareness of belonging, which nestles in between and connects the source and the outsourced force of consciousness i.e. us! Both Apollo and Dionysus, light and dark, were both intimately connected to the bull. They were both forms of the logos (a very ancient concept). Before the monotheists got a hold of him and tried to make him purely a sun god, Apollo was the bringer of direct knowledge from the source. ‘He’ taught the way for us to bridge the gap and achieve self illumination. It was this complex and profound awareness which ensured the darkness - especially death - was not to be feared, but understood as a balancing element essential to life (an open system). The horns of the bull symbolised the ability to grow in knowledge through union with the complete divine essence (what Laura now calls the information of the entire consciously evolving living system). Higher and lower united; bridging the divide so as to expand consciousness.

And then calamity.

A process of separation from direct knowledge/experience of the source suddenly manifests and is represented in the symbolism whereby the great mother is bit by bit dismantled, and her ‘son/consort’ the bull is now to be defeated/sacrificed. The lion now fights and increasingly kills the bull. The lion, namely us, our usurped divine will and ego, becomes the solar hero (masculine). The lion becomes in some way distorted; the blinding golden light of the Sun is to be revered and in so doing the obsession with the pure light drowns out the complexity of light and dark in balance and unity (the Sun becomes the symbol of monotheism). The blinding light (all that glisters is not Gold)! The moon is sidelined, demonised and feminised (it is worth noting that in original mythologies the sun was invariable feminine and the moon masculine!)

Zeus, like a number of male father figures, begins to take over the attributes of the bull – but without the Great Mother as his guide (he’s sidelined her!) He transforms into one so as to rape or seduce, to steal away the power of the goddess! Soon enough, the bull is increasingly seen as ‘wild’ and threatening, and in need of taming! This is the code for taming the power and awareness of the completeness of the ‘goddess’, and essentially what is now merely perceived as her voracious appetite for life and her obsession with procreation. This is a sign of mounting, fearful, misogyny, the tool by which 4th density STS will enforce separation. Later rituals concerning the bull and sacrificial children are a clear perversion of the original and are symptomatic of psychopathology.

Gilgamesh and Enkidu dismantling the Bull of Heaven is a story moment where this reality first became acceptable. Killing the bull of the great goddess and throwing the shoulder of the bull at the sky is a truly terrible moment; I believe it to be a direct result of the change in consciousness which took place following a series of catastrophic events which Laura has rightly connected to the mutations which led to psychopathology (and possibly the final shutting down of direct contact with other densities once freely available via the human mind). The shoulder of the bull is almost certainly what we know as the big dipper/the plough, namely part of the great bear. The mother bear (another form of the goddess) and her son are now held prisoner and kept apart by the dragon (Draco – the great snake); this is symbolic of our separation from 4th density awareness, which may have coincided with environmental changes on earth and/or the tilting of the planet, hence the obsession with the pole star and the ‘hidden’ original true pole the dragon guards.

It is very interesting to note that at the core of the Mithraic religion is the killing of the bull, whose blood is drunk by a serpent and a dog and whose testacles, life force, consumed by a scorpion. This secret, military, imperial Roman cult was to morph eventually into Christianity (that is, it reverse engineered itself into the various incipient groups and fused them with certain Osirian/Isian Egyptian mystery rites – themselves rooted in Bull knowledge – creating what we know as Catholic Rome). I believe that at this cult’s secret centre hid the brotherhood of the snake, a group of fanatical hybrids in league with 4th density STS, hell bent on ensuring perpetual victory over the ‘goddess’ and putting in place plans to ensure that we never get back to our union with the mother knowledge. One of their initiatory rights involved the ritual wielding of the shoulder of the bull by Mithras (with the Sun god looking on) as a mark of their undefeated cosmic power. I believe this is connected in some mysterious way with the knowledge which Christianity was designed to suppress....

The sacrifice of the bull became more and more common and accepted as normal. At some point previously the bull of Taurus was even ‘sacrificed’ - cut in half to make way for a new first symbol on the Way – Aries. The 2 horns of the ram were of a quite different kind though! Sacrifice was going to become the only Way!

Enough...

I hope some of this communicates something of interest.

Goodnight one and all.
 
Hi Michael,

Thanks for the information on the bull symbolism. I have a question that might be unrelated to this.

There is a "yellow bull/ox" symbolism in some circles of Sufis in Anatolia. The legend says the world is on top of a yellow bull and the bull is on top of a boat. The boat is on top of a fish and fish is on top of ocean. Later they say the ocean is placed on top of Acceptance of Truth and this is placed on Faith.

Does it ring some bells in terms of symbolism or is it just random mumbo-jumbo?
 
Mkrnhr,

it took me a while to get back to this thread.

the bull in the anciant times may have represented life force. J. Campbell noted that the horns of the bull represent the moon, the cyclical aspect of life in the course of time (biological life).

To my understanding the reversal of the original meaning of symbols have occured many times in the history of humanity. The sacrilege of the godess, the serpent, are examples. This could also have happened with the bull symbol. I have no data though to back this up.

The minotaure is the result of some fault, and the consequence of it is a merging of the human aspect with the animal aspect (maybe spirit with matter). And the journey into the labyrinth inside us leads to confront this "anomaly" inside us, and get rid of the attachement to the animal aspect within our psyche. OSIT

This reminds me of the manipulation of the genetic code and the introduction of the psychopath into humanity. Again I have no data to back up this ´interpretation´.
 
AI

There's a good discussion of the "bull of heaven" (great comet) in Clube and Napier's Cosmic Winter.

I have not read the book, on the list though. so I cannot further comment on this.

Meager1

Maybe it was only symbolic of subduing an undesirable male aspect?

I fail to see which male aspect as such would have to be subdued. This, in my understanding would mean that there is something inherently bad about the male. This I think IMHO is maybe a confusion with the observation that there might be more male psychopaths than female ones (although this might not be the case) and therefore it seems that something in the male is undesirable. So you might be right when replacing male with psychopathic aspect. this would lead to getting ridding of the ponerizing aspect programmed in humanity, more specifically since the start up of agriculture and ´civilization´.
 
Hi Michael,

thanks for this interesting explanation of the bull symbology. Reading your explanation it does seem that I was off beam. I simpy went for the psychopaths propaganda that the bull was the evil one. In my case their propaganda didn´t work though as they intended as it seems I saw somehow that their twisting of a great symbol related with the goddess revealed their mask: I related the bull to the psychopath as saw that in their efforts to demonize the bull they showed a mirror of themselves. OSIT.
 
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