The comet of the holocene

[jusdenny]

I've been labled a blasphemer on some geology sites. But if folks would like to hear it believe I can tell you where to find the largest and most pristine comet explosion site ever found. (Tunguska was a baby)

I can give a link to my blog page, post it here, or keep my mouth shut and go away.

Anyone curious?

 

[Laura]

Post it. We have a special forum for blogs. If you want to list yours there and updates (just no commercial sites, please!), go ahead!!!

 

[PepperFritz]

Jusdenny:

This is the second time you've posted a "Who wants to hear my big potentially-shocking theory" message. Whatever it is, I doubt anyone will accuse you of "blasphemy", as this is not a forum devoted to dogma -- only objective truth. But if you continue being so melodramatic and attention-seeking about it, I for one will be calling you extremely annoying.

Just post it already.

 

[jusdenny]

From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction_event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

I believe I've found the site of the Holocene impact event some have described. It's been right under our feet all along. But the stupendous size of the thing is almost beyond comprehension. And that is why we never realized what we were standing on. And until we saw Shoemaker-Levy 9 hit Jupiter, it would have been incomprehensible that such a thing could possibly happen at all.

The story of the search is a lot like the ancient story of the blind men and the elephant. The blind man who feels a leg says the elephant is like a pillar; the one who feels the tail says the elephant is like a rope; the one who feels the trunk says the elephant is like a tree branch; the one who feels the ear says the elephant is like a hand fan; the one who feels the belly says the elephant is like a wall; and the one who feels the tusk says the elephant is like a solid pipe

And then someone explained to them:

All of you are right. The reason every one of you is telling it differently is because each one of you touched the different part of the elephant. So, actually the elephant has all the features you mentioned

You see, all of this time we've all been like the fleas on an elephants back, who, when asked what they were standing on, replied; "Why, this is our world of course!" We just needed to get a little distance. Simply turn on Google Earth set it to the highest resolution you can get, open your eyes, then zoom out to about 1300 miles, and then look closely at the eastern USA. If you know some one who has military experience with aerial surveillance photos have them look with you.

The two circles you see centered on north central Alabama are not mere artifacts of the software. I believe they were caused by the compression waves of multiple explosions of unimaginable magnitude. And that they are the ghostly signature of the beginning of the Holocene extinction. As well as a lot of other really bad stuff. It was a bad day on this side of the world.

Studies of the geology in that region indicate that it isn't consistent with the geology of a crater. But careful analysis of sedimentary deposits all over the region will give results that are consistent with a large exploding comet. The explosion didn't cause a crater in the normal sense. But it could be confused as one if you don't look close enough.

You see, those circles are more than 250 miles in diameter. And that's why most folks will glance at it and say "Nah, no way, that's impossible". And they'd all be right if the circles were rim of a crater. An impact powerful enough to make a crater that big would kill everything on the earth but insects and germs. But the circles are a compression wave structure, and not the rim of a crater at all.

The Holocene comet fragments exploded in the air like the Tunguska event. But it was an explosion so much powerful that it broke the very bedrock and left a giant compression wave frozen in the earths crust like ripples in a pond. And at the center you'll find a fracture star like a stone fracture in a windshield. But this one is a 12 miles long and 6 miles wide. And the town of Marshal Alabama is at the center of it. There were other fragments too, and if you look closely you can see their footprints in the perfect circular depressions 30 or 40 miles wide around and near Marshal. The other major explosion left a circular depression 65 miles wide centered on eastern Tennessee with some type of splash feature extending over 400 miles to the northeast.


Doing good science demands that every conclusion should be submitted for peer review. And I believe that's way it should be. I am a common man. My peers are common folk so my submittal consists of these five words for the rest of my human family:

Would you look at that?!!

See what I mean? If I'm wrong, oh well. If correct, wow!

 

[jusdenny]

Please excuse my impatience. But do others see what I see? or should I seek treatment? :/

 

[Laura]

Simply turn on Google Earth set it to the highest resolution you can get, open your eyes, then zoom out to about 1300 miles, and then look closely at the eastern USA. If you know some one who has military experience with aerial surveillance photos have them look with you.

The two circles you see centered on north central Alabama are not mere artifacts of the software. I believe they were caused by the compression waves of multiple explosions of unimaginable magnitude. And that they are the ghostly signature of the beginning of the Holocene extinction. As well as a lot of other really bad stuff. It was a bad day on this side of the world.

Some of us don't have enough bandwidth to do this... could you do it, get an image, and post it here? I would really like to take a look but am limited by my connection.

Also, have you read "The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes" by Richard Firestone, Allen West and Simon Warwick-Smith? It is about the "comet of the Holocene" and says pretty much what you are saying above.

 

[jusdenny]

I'm having trouble figuring out how to insert an image into this post. But I did put on my MySpace page. you can see it at MySpace/holocenecomet.

I should tell you that the description of the comet explosion sequence I've given is the condenced version. There is much more. I'm not shure most people are ready to hear it. And I've no wish to sound like chicken little found a forum.

 

[T.C.]

I'm not shure most people are ready to hear it.

Jusdenny

To say that you are preaching to the choir would be the understatement of the century.

If you were to put some effort into reading the works recommended to you, you might come to some understanding that the members of this forum work on the premise that nothing is what it seems, everything must be questioned and beliefs must be left at the door.

As has already been said to you by others, you are new here and that you're not up to speed is completely appreciated and expected; you are welcomed here with open arms and trust, if what you are searching for is the truth, but you must repay that trust with effort on your part, which means you need to acquaint yourself with the ideas and principles of this forum and the works of its founders.

Happy reading.

 

[jusdenny]

Thank you,
I have started reading "Riding the Wave" I'm only to chapter two but the truth of it is clear. I'll read the whole thing before the day is through.
You see, for over a year now I've been going through a lot of really rough changes that have had me doughting my own sanity. I've allways been good at fixing things like my computer, or my car, almost anything at all, without being able to explain where I learned to do it. It just seems that the knowledge is there on demand when I need it. But lately it's been getting out of control. It's almost as if I am being shown things without any explanation of why I need to know. And some of them are overwhelming to say the least.
Can you accept that I have A memory of those comet fragments exploding that is more clear than what I had for breakfast?
A memory of a place as lush and verdant as the African savana. A memory of the people who were there, the Mastodons, and all of that beautiful life. All of them errased in a tiny moment of time?
If you can, then can explain to me how this can be? Or how it is that I can know these things as clearly as a recent memory?

 

[jusdenny]

Here's a more complete account of the day the mastodons died.

The impact sequence begans at what is now Marshal, Alabama, USA. And then progresses to the north east. There are Two concentric compression wave rings; one at about 250 miles in diameter. The other is about 360 miles diameter. The first few impacts only partially melted the material around the impact and thus a fracture star in the crust remains which is Lake Marshal. Then it started to get violent. Another big one hit, creating another tremendous compression wave when it exploded above the melt to the north east in eastern Tennessee, heating the melt enough that this time it splashes up, out, and in front of it. Looking like plops in a lava stream the impacts continued in a relentless stream 80 or 90 miles wide all the way up into Maine. Each one heating the melt still more and progressively kicking it out in front forming all of the land forms we see there today. It consisted of a string of comet fragments. And, it came in from the southwest at a point angled about 45 degrees to the plane of the ecliptic. Some of the pieces were many miles wide. The string included the whole comet but anything smaller then that is like looking for the footprints of a baby in the mud after the whole family has walked by. The slow uplift, slow erosion of the landforms in the Appalachians is a long held theory that goes back to a time when the idea of rocks the size of mountains falling from the sky was still considered to be the stuff of religious myths and legends. And to the best of my knowledge was not based on radiometric analysis of the rocks in the chain. Such tests still haven't been done as far as I know. But in less than an hour whole mountain ranges you've always thought were immeasurably ancient and eroded remnants of big ones like the Himalayas were plopped down. The Folds that are the Appalachians happened about an hour after the comet exploded. As a result of returning seismic waves compressing the already superheated crust.

In order for human knowledge to progress properly we need to be willing to dump any theory, no matter how long held, universally accepted, or treasured. And no matter how, seemingly sound, and logical it may be, if it flies in the face of a clearly observable and demonstrable fact. Otherwise we may as well all go back to believing that we all live on a flat world carried on the back of a turtle at the center of the universe. And to the burning at the stake for heresy of anyone who says otherwise.

 

[allen]

Otherwise we may as well all go back to believing that we all live on a flat world carried on the back of a turtle at the center of the universe. And to the burning at the stake for heresy of anyone who says otherwise.

If you are being sincere, then you've come to the right place. As to how you could remember those comets striking, the universe doesn't really seem to be the place we've been lead to believe. If "you in the future" could contact Laura in the "present" then time is certainly not the linear "past is gone" phenomenon we've been taught.

But remember that blind acceptance of things like remembering ancient cometary impacts or the communication with beings like the C's is not how things are approached around here. These things make for good starting points for research, if you are so inclined. Memories like yours (if that is indeed what is going on) is not useful knowledge by itself. If what you remember could be used to prove something in the "present," now that would be interesting.

In other words, real knowledge doesn't come in a flash or a dream, at least in my experience. Your experiences seem to have you leaning toward a sort of religious epiphany in which you think you've suddenly found "the truth," though maybe I'm misinterpreting you. That's understandable. Been through that one myself. Maybe just take a big breath, slow down and do the reading. Laura's account of her early contact with the C's is incredibly instructive, especially in regards to learning how to approach these things without going off the deep end.

Enjoy the reading!

 

[jusdenny]

No I'm not ready to call it a religious experience. and it didn't come to me in a dream. But I'm already in the deep end of the pool. And untill yesterday I was begging to feel like some of the bigs wanted to drown me. Now if I can just keep my head above water I'll be ok.

As a post script to my last post, and something I should add for anyone who would like to do a computer simulation is the comets composition.
If your simulation only accounts for the kinetic energy it won't work. Not enough energy. The comet was mostly frozen methane. The average size of the chunks was about two miles, and the two biggest were about four. It wasn't just a big snowball doing a bellyflop in the atmosphere. So, in addition to kinetic energy your simulation will need to include the physics of the tremendous methane gas explosions.

As for present time proof of the memory, that's why I'm here asking everyone; would you look at that?

 

[anart]

As for present time proof of the memory, that's why I'm here asking everyone; would you look at that?

I, for one, would respond to that question with the statement that we do not yet have enough data to know.  This is the reason you've been asked to get up to speed a bit and do some reading.  It will be much more beneficial to discuss possibilities once you have a vocabulary and understanding to work with; otherwise input given is quite likely to be useless and subjective. Others may think differently.

 

[jusdenny]

I should pause from my reading to thank you guys for your patience. Nice to be reassured that I don't need to check into a padded cell. :) But I've been asking questions that were way over my head. It's clear from what I've read so far that I've a lot to learn. And a lot of catching up to do. I'll warn you though, once I have the vocabulary to comprehend the answers, I am a man of limitless curiosity. And my questions have only begun.

 

[thevenusian]

Here is a screen grab of the most obvious circular shape via Google Earth. Also evident is the 'splash' effect heading toward the NE. Is this what is being referred to? Without commentary by someone who has a greater knowledge of what we are seeing, I am reluctant to reach any conclusion other than that it looks like a circle on Google Earth. A higher res image is more clear, but this is the biggest I could upload.