the Dark Web

albente

albente

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Has any of you guys ever heard of the "dark web" - the part of the internet that is not accessible through search engines?

According to Wikipedia (a dubious source, but nevertheless a source) the Dark Web is 500 times as large as the known internet-WOW

The way to enter this dark space is through a specific browser, known as TOR-browser. (In German Tor means gate - how appropriate - the gate to hell I suppose).
 
If it exists, it's probably another plot of the elite to channel and keep a tab on the opposition and lead the gullible astray. On the net, there is no real anonymity, never was, never will.
 
According to the Tor project website, Tor is developed by "onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory" and DARPA "Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency". So, what do you think? :)
 
Avala said:
According to the Tor project website, Tor is developed by "onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory" and DARPA "Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency". So, what do you think? :)
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Joseph Farrell calls DARPA humorously the Demonic Apocalyptic Research Project(s) Agency
That's exactly what one would expect to find in the Deep Web - demonic stuff, live-programs of Satanic Ritual Abuse, dismemberment of humans and other live forms ... - not even hidden - or- to the contrary entirely hidden, since not accessible to search engines. A psychopaths true paradise - probably THE most massive archonic manifestation and collection of evil in the digital world- steadily growing

If anonymity on the known web brings out the hyena in some people I would not like to be even close to the jungle of evil that the Dark Web must be - a digital hell where our "standard reality" is dragged in just to be distorted and devoured. So - how or why to know more about the Dark Web when practicing TOR abstinence? Well - that's what a forum should serve as one of its purposes.

I am surprised that the Dark Web is not being recognized or focussed on by more for the playing ground of evil that it must be.
 
albente said:
I am surprised that the Dark Web is not being recognized or focussed on by more for the playing ground of evil that it must be.
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There is plenty of "regular" evil going on every day so I do not see what we would gain from searching the dark web ?
 
I am sure you are familiar with the following quote from Friedrich Nietzsche, albente:

Nietzsche said:
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
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We know there is evil and psychopaths, we see the results of their actions every day in the world around us, and it's everywhere on the 'regular' web.
No need to take a 'closer' look. As far as I'm concerned, it's plenty close already.

You know snuff movies exist. Do you need to watch them to really understand evil?
 
These words like "Deep Net", "Dark Net", "Under Net" do not seem to have a particularly standardised definition. As you can see by reading the various Wikis.

Deep Net is mostly being used to describe data that is accessible on the internet but not findable via the public search engines. Most of this I suspect is dynamic pages created from database searches but also things like the restricted areas on this site which do not allow web crawler access. I suspect that this sort of thing is what the "500 times larger" guess is referring to. It is all detactable by monitoring trafic through the major backbone connections like the IXP LINX (_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Internet_Exchange) in the UK (" ...the Dark Web is 500 times as large as the known internet" is an unfortunate conflation of "web" and "internet", two words which do not have identical meanings.)

Dark Net seems to be more describing networks that have connections to the internet but their routers don't broadcast themselves and have been configured in various non-standard ways to route their packets in particular directions.

TOR strikes me as little more than a VPN with anonymous access. It is not an internet with 500 times more data in it than the web. (And as far as the PTB are concerned not very anonymous either.)
 
And Google itslef is creating "dark spaces" by delisting content it views as negative. See:
http://www.sott.net/article/281346-Google-is-yanking-negative-coverage-of-powerful-people-from-its-search-results
 
First, a few definitions which should not be confused (the "Dark Web" doesn't seem to be clearly defined):

Deep Web: (also called the Deepnet, Invisible Web, or Hidden Web) is World Wide Web content that is not part of the Surface Web, which is indexed by standard search engines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web

Dark Internet: A dark Internet, dark address or Lost Net refers to any or all network hosts on the Internet that can no longer be accessed through conventional means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Internet

Dark Net: A darknet is a private network where connections are made only between trusted peers — sometimes called "friends" (F2F) — using non-standard protocols and ports. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet_(file_sharing)

albente said:
According to Wikipedia (a dubious source, but nevertheless a source) the Dark Web is 500 times as large as the known internet-WOW
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It's not really that impressive according to above definitions. If I want to share a private file with somebody, I can upload it to a server and keep the link private. I then can send this private link to a friend so that he/she can download it. This file will then, by above definition, belong to the "Deep Web", making it "larger" than the known internet. So, nothing mysterious here.

albente said:
The way to enter this dark space is through a specific browser, known as TOR-browser. (In German Tor means gate - how appropriate - the gate to hell I suppose).
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Certainly the TOR technology exists and is used for questionable things, but it's conceptually no different from the method of uploading a private file (or sending a private letter via regular mail): Only two (or more) parties know the 'secret' and can access the file. Also not very mysterious.

albente said:
Joseph Farrell calls DARPA humorously the Demonic Apocalyptic Research Project(s) Agency
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That's being a little bit ungrateful for the great internet technology we have today (thanks to which we are able to use this forum). Even though the original idea might have been to use it for 'evil', this has not worked out entirely, and now people can decide to get informed and use it for 'good'. In my opinion, it is one of the greatest gifts and chances for humanity in the present time.

albente said:
That's exactly what one would expect to find in the Deep Web - demonic stuff, live-programs of Satanic Ritual Abuse, dismemberment of humans and other live forms ... - not even hidden - or- to the contrary entirely hidden, since not accessible to search engines. A psychopaths true paradise - probably THE most massive archonic manifestation and collection of evil in the digital world- steadily growing
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If I share a private file in the "Deep Web" (e.g. a PDF document about taxes for my accountant), would that be "demonic" and would make me a psychopath? No. In my opinion, "THE most massive archonic manifestation and collection of evil in the digital world" are the mass media in the open internet. They don't need TOR for that.

albente said:
If anonymity on the known web brings out the hyena in some people I would not like to be even close to the jungle of evil that the Dark Web must be - a digital hell where our "standard reality" is dragged in just to be distorted and devoured.
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Inconsequential. Since the "Dark Net" is by definition isolated and invisible from the normal internet, our "standard reality" cannot be "dragged" into it. I suspect 99.99% of internet users won't have enough expertise to access it. If someone wants to distort reality, then he/she would probably choose the open internet to reach more people. And indeed, the mass media do it like this.

In my opinion, it is okay for people to have privacy, no matter which technology they use (TOR or otherwise). But I'm not saying that it is okay for people to use any kind of technology for illegal things. The law is the law - but that concept is not limited to the "Dark Webs".

The point I'm trying to make here is: Nothing is black and white. 'Evil' is everywhere, not just in hidden places, but especially in public ones. There is a lot of hysterization about the idea of "Dark Webs" and its contents, despite by definition being invisible and unknown. Nobody knows what is there. It could be anything.
 
Data said:
The point I'm trying to make here is: Nothing is black and white. 'Evil' is everywhere, not just in hidden places, but especially in public ones.
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Correct - however you focus on public space - what about our inner most space?

I am in the process of developing a theory (which has nothing to do with the topic of the Dark Web here but psychopathy in general):

If you take the accepted premise that 5% of any given population is "purebred" psychopathic - meaning nonhuman in human form - adversarial - whatever - I guess I do not have to explain psychopathy on this particular forum,

so - if 5% are true psychopaths - then 95% must be non-psychopaths - merely affected by the perpetrators and therefore in some cases becoming secondary psychopaths, plus the remainder which are affected by the social circumstances (macrosocial) through media-manipulation etc.

What if this train of thought is wrong and we all have a psychopathic element/ potential in us - without exception ? I did ask this question on a different thread, could not find an answer though:

I stated: what if I for instance am 30% psychopath and 70% empath - what would that make me? I think the answer would be: an asset (in this forums at least).

So yes - I agree with our moderator - it is not all black and white. Would anyone like to keep running with this theory of the sliding scale, meaning to entertain the thought that we indeed ALL could be quite mixed up .

The moderator first: Are you 0% psychopath,10, 20, 30% or would you dimiss my theory alltogether - meaning - you are one of the 95% against the elitist 5%. We would not make any progress that way or would we?!
 
albente said:
I am in the process of developing a theory (which has nothing to do with the topic of the Dark Web here but psychopathy in general):
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So yes - I agree with our moderator - it is not all black and white. Would anyone like to keep running with this theory of the sliding scale, meaning to entertain the thought that we indeed ALL could be quite mixed up .

The moderator first: Are you 0% psychopath,10, 20, 30% or would you dimiss my theory alltogether - meaning - you are one of the 95% against the elitist 5%. We would not make any progress that way or would we?!
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albente, I think that there are a lot of material available to help you better define your theory as it doesn't make much sense right now, and it reads that it is because you don't have enough knowledge on the subject.

You can start with reading the Wave series and the books on psychopathy/psychology (see list here: https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33092.0.html )

especially the books under Narcissism "Big Five", Cognitive and Social Science, Psychopathy. It all makes for a great reading and a good theory always needs a good research behind it :lkj:
 
albente said:
I am in the process of developing a theory (which has nothing to do with the topic of the Dark Web here but psychopathy in general):
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Then start your own thread and don't hijack this one. Please don't respond to this post. This thread is about the Dark Web.

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Ground Zero, with Clyde Lewis just did a show on the digital Satan game which originates from the Dark web. That should stop most inquiries coming from those who visit here.
 
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