The Health & Wellness Show: Sleep, Light and Circadian Rhythms, 27 May 2016

hlat

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https://www.sott.net/article/319123-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Sleep-Light-and-Circadian-Rhythms

I like the show.

I recommend censoring out from the archived version from about 54:03 to 54:05 for purposes of external consideration.
 
hlat said:
https://www.sott.net/article/319123-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Sleep-Light-and-Circadian-Rhythms

I like the show.

I recommend censoring out from the archived version from about 54:03 to 54:05 for purposes of external consideration.

Glad you liked the show hlat,

I am curious as to why you think the 2 second segment should be censored? I just listened back to it, all I could hear was some stumbling in conversation.
 
hlat said:
https://www.sott.net/article/319123-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Sleep-Light-and-Circadian-Rhythms

I like the show.

I recommend censoring out from the archived version from about 54:03 to 54:05 for purposes of external consideration.

Hi hlat,
I listened to that segment and don't hear anything that would need to be censored. I just hear Eliott talking. Would you elaborate on the context of what or why that part needs to be censored?
 
Keyhole said:
hlat said:
https://www.sott.net/article/319123-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Sleep-Light-and-Circadian-Rhythms

I like the show.

I recommend censoring out from the archived version from about 54:03 to 54:05 for purposes of external consideration.

Glad you liked the show hlat,

I am curious as to why you think the 2 second segment should be censored? I just listened back to it, all I could hear was some stumbling in conversation.

We may be looking at different times. I have the downloaded mp3 playing on Windows media player. The portion I'm referring to immediately precedes "pardon my French".
 
Ahh ok, I have found it. On the sott website it can be found at 54:30-54:32.

It was when I accidentally said the word "sh*t". But to be honest, I don't see it as something worth censoring. It has been said on the other shows on occasion, and I don't see why anyone would be particularly offended by it. Were you offended by the one-time use of the word?
 
I heard the part you're talking about (it's around 54:30), and it really seems like you're overreacting. Listeners can hear far worse than that on your average Youtube video or mainstream television after 9pm. I think asking for censoring in this case, is a bit much.
 
Keyhole said:
It has been said on the other shows on occasion, and I don't see why anyone would be particularly offended by it. Were you offended by the one-time use of the word?
I was not offended.

dugdeep said:
Listeners can hear far worse than that on your average Youtube video or mainstream television after 9pm.
Yes there are bad things on Youtube and TV.

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I was just giving my recommendation. Maybe there are good reasons to keep it (eg not important, too much work, not worth spending any energy). I guess kids wouldn't be expected to listen, and I should not listen around kids.

I also like the re-design at the bottom of the radio page that makes it easier to browse and download past shows.
 
hlat said:
I was just giving my recommendation. Maybe there are good reasons to keep it (eg not important, too much work, not worth spending any energy). I guess kids wouldn't be expected to listen, and I should not listen around kids.

For any parents who listen to the radio shows, it should be pretty obvious that it is not appropriate for young children to listen to them. The shows deal with some very 'mature' topics, from porn and sex, to murder, rape, torture, pedophilia, etc. If a youth is old enough to listen to a discussion of such topics, they should be old enough to hear a swear word used appropriately (or not).

Next, that is not the first time a curse word has been uttered on one of the shows. But it's not as if the hosts casually swear all the time (like some radio personalities), or use especially vulgar words. On the rare occasion when it happens, it's usually out of exasperation or during a rant in response to something that provokes some sense of righteous anger.

But that's all beside the point in this case. Your original post didn't give much data. This latest one provides a little, but in a vague, roundabout, almost passive aggressive way. Did you listen to this show with your kids? Were they disturbed by the word? That would've been good information to include in your original post if it's the case.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Did you listen to this show with your kids? Were they disturbed by the word?

No. I was listening to the show without anyone else able to hear it.

It seems to me it was just a slip of the tongue. Not a big deal. If it was something I could easily delete in 5 seconds, then I would do it. If it's a PITA to do, then I wouldn't do it.

There may be good reasons to leave it alone. Maybe censorship is a bad precedent.

Maybe I made a mistake in even bringing up this topic. In my life, I try not to swear, and not just around children. I'm not perfect and I slip up at times. It may be an example of mechanical man in charge. I see people swearing in parks, in stores, in courtrooms, and on the street, and I think sometimes they are not even aware they are doing it.
 
hlat said:
It seems to me it was just a slip of the tongue. Not a big deal. If it was something I could easily delete in 5 seconds, then I would do it. If it's a PITA to do, then I wouldn't do it.

There may be good reasons to leave it alone. Maybe censorship is a bad precedent.

Maybe I made a mistake in even bringing up this topic. In my life, I try not to swear, and not just around children. I'm not perfect and I slip up at times. It may be an example of mechanical man in charge. I see people swearing in parks, in stores, in courtrooms, and on the street, and I think sometimes they are not even aware they are doing it.

It's never a mistake to bring up any topic as long as you are willing to learn like everyone else. But the externally considerate thing to do (which as you know, you would benefit from practicing as often as possible), would have been to explain exactly what comment bothered you, and why. Like you did after being asked. But no harm done. Growing up, my parents were very strict about cursing, and even "sh***t" was forbidden. So, I too have a bit of a reaction to that. But really, it's not a big deal, not worth the time editing it, and not offensive as if someone had used a much worse cruse word. The interesting thing is that you thought of "censuring". Believe me, the least of our concerns is a "sh***t". It happens. We try to watch our vocabulary during shows, but a slip like that is not the issue, IMO. If anyone had to "censure" anything, if would be the content, because what we usually say is quite opposite to what the authorities say. :D

Also interesting is the fact that you proposed editing out that part out of "external consideration", but you weren't externally considerate in your post. It's always better to be able to show by example, watching out for your own slips, for projection, things that simply trigger an automatic response in you, etc.
 
Being polite is absolutely important imo. But from time to time slips do happen which is totally normal and compared to other American shows and as dugdeep wrote nothing at all happened during the health and wellness show.

hlat said:
Approaching Infinity said:
Did you listen to this show with your kids? Were they disturbed by the word?

It seems to me it was just a slip of the tongue. Not a big deal. If it was something I could easily delete in 5 seconds, then I would do it. If it's a PITA to do, then I wouldn't do it.

These maybe just five seconds to be cut out, but there is more work behind, cutting it, saving it in different formats and and the longest part uploading it again and integrating the files again at its appropriate place.
 
I'd say not to censor it because that's a slippery slope.

However, I will add that ALL of our peeps on the radio should really take care of the language they use.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Your original post didn't give much data.

Chu said:
But the externally considerate thing to do (which as you know, you would benefit from practicing as often as possible), would have been to explain exactly what comment bothered you, and why.
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Also interesting is the fact that you proposed editing out that part out of "external consideration", but you weren't externally considerate in your post. It's always better to be able to show by example, watching out for your own slips, for projection, things that simply trigger an automatic response in you, etc.

Yes, I see now that my original post was a problem. I didn't write that I heard a host accidently say sh*t, because I thought I could avoid possibily causing him embarrassment, if it was bleeped out. I thought I was being discrete by only identifying the time, but even that itself caused problems because the mp3 time was different than the website time. My approach was a mistake, which is a tendency to try to guard information as if it was privately confided to me, when this is about a public show on a public forum. I also have a tendency to try to be as brief and write as little words as possible, because I'm trying to save readers from reading a lot of words, but this probably results in appearing to be curt so that it is not externally considerate.
 
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