The Iranian Nuke situation

[ziggystarlust]

More confirmation, from an important American official, that Iran probably does not have the bomb or will imminently have one...

_http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/09/panetta-admits-iran-not-developing-nukes/#.TwuGe-xGkwA.email

 

[hjackson]

I don't know what it would need one for. Managing to get a nuke isn't that great an investment against an enemy that wouldn't surrender on that basis.

 

[Mr. Premise]

I don't know what it would need one for. Managing to get a nuke isn't that great an investment against an enemy that wouldn't surrender on that basis.

Nuclear weapons are used defensively. They have not been used to defeat an opponent since Japan in 1945. Having some would protect Iran from attack by Israel, the U.S. or any other neighboring country.

 

[Gonzo]

Yeah, I think the term is nuclear deterrence, based on the notion that mutual obliteration is in no one's best interest. But I wonder how such things are perceived by psychopaths. Would they somehow think they could issue a launch command from the safety of an underground bunker and somehow survive, feeling they somehow won? If that's the case, I'm surprised the deterrence has worked as long as it has (if we can credit the fact that the super powers avoided global obliteration because of said deterrence, that is).

The cold war was largely based on the fact that both the US and the former USSR had enough nuclear missiles to destroy the planet several times over. At least, that's what we were taught in high school during the Reagan years.

Gonzo

 

[hjackson]

Having some would protect Iran from attack by Israel, the U.S. or any other neighboring country.

I don't see how it would get multiple. I wasn't under the impression it had that kind of materials or development.

 

[Gonzo]

Having some would protect Iran from attack by Israel, the U.S. or any other neighboring country.

I don't see how it would get multiple. I wasn't under the impression it had that kind of materials or development.

I believe Mr. Premise's comments were in response to an earlier question regarding what benefit there would be in having nuclear weapons. So, in a way, the response was dealing with a hypothetical scenario.

At least that's my take on it.

Gonzo

 

[Bobo08]

Yeah, I think the term is nuclear deterrence, based on the notion that mutual obliteration is in no one's best interest. But I wonder how such things are perceived by psychopaths. Would they somehow think they could issue a launch command from the safety of an underground bunker and somehow survive, feeling they somehow won? If that's the case, I'm surprised the deterrence has worked as long as it has (if we can credit the fact that the super powers avoided global obliteration because of said deterrence, that is).

Fletcher Prouty made a comment that there would never be a full scale nuclear war because the elites understood that they would not be able to escape unscathed and that's why they had to find other forms of low-level warfare instead. It's in The Secret Team if I remember correctly.

 

[Biomiast]

Third attack on Iranian nuclear scientists all of which involves a motorcyclist attaching a bomb to their car.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16501566

Iran car explosion 'kills nuclear scientist' in Tehran

A university lecturer and nuclear scientist has been killed in a car explosion in north Tehran, reports say.

Iranian media sources named the casualty as Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan, Reuters news agency reports.

The blast happened when a motorcyclist stuck a bomb on the side of the car, says Iran's semi-official Fars news agency.

Several Iranian nuclear scientists have been assassinated in Iran in recent years.

Tehran has blamed the killings on Israel and the US. Both countries deny the accusations.

There were other attacks in the past listed next to the article, but I don't know if there is more.

Attacks on Iranian scientists

Jan 2012 - Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, a professor at the Technical University of Tehran, died after bomb was placed on his car by a motorcyclist

Nov 2010 - Majid Shahriari, member of nuclear engineering faculty at Shahid Beheshti University, killed in Tehran after bomb attached to his car by motorcyclist in Tehran. Another scientist, Fereydoon Abbasi Davani - future head of the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran - is hurt in a separate attack

Jan 2010 - Massoud Ali Mohammadi, a physics professor, died when a motorcycle rigged with explosives exploded near his car