While searching for a music video, I saw a video on a scientist supposedly “whistle-blowing” about the Mandela Effect. Though after mulling over the earlier Forum discussions in this thread and putting this strange phenomenon aside (though I'm still unsettled about the "relocation" of Australia--see post to follow), I was intrigued enough to watch it.
I soon learned that the video was actually a guy named Nathan Martin attempting to apply critical thinking to analyze the scientist’s statements. Though I haven’t visited his webpages (links below), I have listened to 3 of his videos in which he expresses many ideas which are collinear with those on this Forum (listed at the end).
At the beginning of each video, he presents this disclaimer:
The information, reasoning, and conclusions that we provide in our videos are meant to provoke viewers into asking the questions necessary to think their way to their own conclusions. It is not our responsibility to think for our viewers, but to provide them with the inspiration needed to further their own thinking process. While we are not interested in debating the content of our videos, we welcome questions that seek clarity, understanding, or those that promote a multilogical dialogue.
This video’s introduction states:
“A scientist claiming to work for the organization responsible for the Mandela Effect answers questions on the anonymous forum 4chan. Is the scientist credible? Is there any truth to what they are saying? Check out my presentation and analysis of the conversation, and the content of their disclosure.”
In essence, this whistle-blowing scientist says that a time-line splice was attempted, then false memories were inserted to camouflage residual memories
which unexpectedly remained in some because one person/group hindered the full success of this attempt. [Laura and crew?]
In response, Martin states his thoughts/questions, then suggests that
by doing the Work, we can stay anchored to reality, especially about ourselves, so we can individuate and not be subject to the “group subconsiousness psychology” [Gurdjieff’s A influences, Sheldrake’s species-specific morphic field, C’s organic life pool?) which is being manipulated with false memories via CERN.
Yet, it seems that if all this were true, the C’s would’ve said more in the June 13, 2015 session when asked about CERN in this session (unless they were strictly sticking to the exact question being asked, which was about CERN creating black holes):
Q: (L) Is there some kind of dangerous activity going on there [CERN] that could generate a black hole or something and swallow the Earth?
(Perceval) And send us all into an antimatter universe?
A: They only wish! The more interesting work is of a different nature and location.
Q: (L) Okay, I'll bite. What kind of work is that, and what is the location?
A: We refer to previous discussions about such things as Montauk. [summary here: https://thecasswiki.net/index.php?title=Montauk_Project&stable=1]
So with all that in mind, I thought I’d share this to see what everyone else thinks about it. (Bracketed comments and bolding are mine.)
VIDEO EXCERPTS:
August 21, 2016 - 21:58:2.0
“I am one of 23 scientists responsible for what you can the “mandela effect”. I am here to answer questions regarding the original timeline and why it is happening. I will not disclose where I work or what I do at work"
My Thoughts [Nathan Martin's]:
1. 4chan is a web forum where people can post messages anonymously; whistleblowers tend to use this forum to release sensitive information.
2. I place the timestamp of each of message from the scientist, unless the timestamp was removed from the screenshot, in which case I use the timestamp of the next message instead.
3. I do not place all of the questions that the scientist is responding to. but in a few of them I chose to.
4. There were a quite a few unreasonable fools asking him questions, which the scientist rightfully chose to ignore.
August 21, 2016 - 22:11:53
"Not everyone is accepting the updates. For some reason, the “veil” is not working on some people. Currently it is spiraling out of control and we anticipate a larger population that will experience memory anomalies within the next few years. By 2020 everything will settle.”
“There are differences in memory because you are not supposed to remember any of it. In fact you've been implanted with multiple layers of memory that are false. Somehow. you have remembered and this is very concerning. I encourage you to hang on to any original memories you have.”
My Thoughts:
1. Is the "veil" that as being spoken of connected to the hyperdimensional control matrix, as described by Gnostics, shamans and other mvstical sects?
2. Why will everything settle by 2020? What is so special about that time frame?
3. We are actively being deceived, but why?
4. Our remembering is concerning to the controllers and yet the scientist is encouraging us. to try to hold onto our memories?
August 21, 2016 – 22:16:42
"This is a proof of concept. If we can overwrite the population with false memories unfortunately the future will be mostly manufactured. There was one person, and we are not sure how, that has somehow caused this unraveling effect."
"We have been trying to locate 'him' but he is currently hiding, This person has created the breakdown in the veil, and we are concerned that the whole system will fail unless. we stop in the next few years.
August 21, 2016 - 22:20:48
"Unfortunately, there was an extinction level event. In order to correct this current version and yet stay similar, we had to ,give you some updates. These include a larger liver to process the increased toxins. as wen as moving some things around because the body would soon be unable to handle the toxicity of the planet, There are too many updates to the body. I don't even know where to start."
My Thoughts:
1. So our current environment is more toxic? Why?
2. Could the toxicity of our world have anything to do with the chemical additives to our food and water supplies?
3. Could chemtrails be for terraforming our world for another species to coexist here with us, or is it meant to coincide with our physiological changes. to make us more susceptible to their counterfeit "veils" and memory implantation techniques?
August 21. 2016 - 22:24:34
"We use a quantum computer based on our own neural network, Unfortunately, some of that technology was passed down to us, to be used for a very specific purpose. Imagine Russian dolls, and you have a pretty good idea of the nature of our reality. We are manipulating. yet also being manipulated from 'outside'.”
My Thoughts:
If this is either mis- or disinformation, then it is done with a Gnostic slant that takes into account mystical understanding of the Demiurge technology, and the fractal holographic reality that we reside within. The principle of correspondence. which states “as above so below, within so without", isn't just some silly esoteric or pagan mythology" for it is an insight that explains the scalability of holographic fractal patterns. and how they are able to replicate in multiple dimensions. directions. densities, and realities. While this scientist is supposedly residing in a different layer of reality, he is still connected to our realm via a fractal based relationship.
August 21, 2016 – 22:36:04
"The most common side effects We are dealing with is recurring headaches. shortness of breath. memory loss. and a feeling of ‘just waking up’. There are various issues due to the interface changes. We have re-written [code for] the rib cage, skull…The brain had to be rearranged. We increased the size of the base of the brain. reduced the distance of the corpus, and shortened the area of the frontal lobe.”
August 21, 2016 - 22:46:10
"It sounds like a noble cause, yes. But unfortunately, if we do not fix the anomalies, there is a possibility of a server crash. That would eliminate this existence for all of us, including myself, and the next layer outside of ourselves.”
August 21, 2016 - 22:53:18
"Your intuition is the closest thing to the truth you can accomplish. Trust your instinct. Many of the 'mandela effects' nested online are layers to hide the real changes, It's fairly involved"
August 21, 2016 - 23:01:02
"This is a deception. There is one finite reality, on one overworked and overstressed 'server', and we are the ones who ‘fix’ the code that is currently unraveling and could potentially cause a system crash. All due to one 'person'.”
My Thoughts:
1. Quantum technology is not of this world. but was given to us by somebody beyond humanity's veiled level of perception. Who gave it to humanity!
2. For what purpose?
3. Are those who are manipulating from 'outside' benevolent or malevolent?
4. Are they the 'archons’ spoken of by the Gnostics?
August 21, 2016 - 22:49:37
"Many foretold of being saved in 2012. We were saved. and now we are here. My employers have a desire to keep us alive, and hopefully without any previous memories, Unfortunately, there are many errors to correct. You will see very strange things in about a month from now.”
My Thoughts:
1. The "server" is probably a metaphor for what houses our reality. but is probably also connected to humanity's "collective consciousness".
2. This may be connected to the Gnostic concept of the "Demiurge", which is an artificial intelligence supercomputer that makes up the Matrix structure. It may or may not have initially been designed as a control structure, but it has since become a control mechanism of the "veils' that separate us from our true nature.
3. See "The Saturn Machine" video linked below for more information.
August 21, 2016 - 23:07:58
[He had previously stated that on a quantum level, human anatomy had been tampered with, which resulted in this comment from a reader: “but the volume of our craniums has remained almost entirely consistent throughout recorded history”. This is his reply to that reader.]
"That's an update in your false memory. As their software betters, and more patches and updates are applied. your history will change here and there."
My Thoughts:
1. This is intriguing. as I was wondering how surgeons would be able to operate without noticing anything different in the human anatomy. The false memories were implanted to ensure humans keep going on as if nothing has happened. This explains a long held question of mine.
2. What collective consciousness are they manipulating when they falsify our memories?
August 21, 2016 - 23:13:31
"CERN is using the collider to introduce anomalies into the server by networking it with multiple d-wave 4096 machines [quantum computers, the first 2 being purchased for $20 million each by NASA /Google and Stanford University] the only thing they have accomplished so far is minor anomalies."
August 21, 2016 – 23:20:23
"Like I said earlier, it was an experiment. to try and graft another timeline into ours, one that was similar but had subtle differences. But they f#$ked it up. The proof is that people were noticing the differences. That was not supposed to happen. For most people the spelling of a children's book means f#$king nothing at all [referring to the Bernstein vs. Berenstain Bears example of the “mandela effect”—note the scientist’s name at the end of these transcripts]. It is important to not forget your original timeline.”
My Thoughts
[Similar to] a computer DNS flush? "DNS is the Domain Name System. DNS servers convert a domain name (such as example.com) into an lP address (in this case 192.0.32.10). The mapping of names to numbers can change from time to time. Your computer holds a record of DNS entries to save looking them up every time. This is your DNS cache. You can delete those records (flush the cache) any time you like. If a website has recently moved servers, you might see the old website for awhile. Flushing your DNS cache might help.”
August 21, 2016 - 23:46:08
"Your consciousness was transferred to the server to avoid an extinction level event. You may have noticed updates to your body as well as environment. -- Jeremv Bernstein, Good luck"
[Nathan Martin wonders if this supposed scientist blowing the whistle may be the Jeremy Bernstein who’s a theoretical physicist. _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy Bernstein ]
My Thoughts:
Could Individuation be our solution? "Individuation is a process of psychological differentiation, having for it’s goal the development of the individual personality. In general, it is the process by which individual beings are formed and differentiated; in particular. it is the development of the psychological individual as a being distinct from the general collective psychology" [Gurdjieff’s B influences, Sheldrake’s species-specific morphic field, C’s organic life pool?]
"… In Jungian theory. the Self is one of several archetypes. It signifies the coherent whole. unifying both the consciousness and unconscious mind of a person, The Self. according to Jung, is realized as the product of Individuation. which is defined as the process of integrating one's personality.” - Annemieke Cloosterman
RELATED/REFERENCED LINKS:
Video containing excerpts above
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwl3h8l4NPI
4chan screenshots of whistleblower’s original conversation (this webpage now says this post was removed)
_https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/4yyz23/4chan_thread_scientist_at_cern_admits_it/
Nathan Martin—What is the mandela effect and why is it happening?
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_541357621&feature=iv&src_vid=uwl3h8l4NPI&v=SLqSnp1-TLA
The best explanation of the mandela effect yet—Wes Penre on the singularity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_812170601&feature=iv&src_vid=uwl3h8l4NPI&v=F2ogX4u_FZg
The Mandela Effect & the Fifth Hermetic Principle of Rhythm
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Dudye-42o&feature=youtu.be
The Mandela Effect & the Power of Observation
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yFbHHX-C_k&feature=youtu.be
The Thinker's Guide For Conscientious Citizens on How to Detect Media Bias & Propaganda, by Richard Paul and Linda Elder
_http://amzn.to/2c7ETGL
Star Trek #2 - The Saturn Machine
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmyZ5bPaW0
Synthetic Super Intelligence and the Transmutation of Humankind - A Roadmap to the Singularity and Beyond, by Wes Penre (Download the book for free at the following link):
_http://wespenre.com/My-Books/Book2-AI/wes_penre___synthetic_super_intelligence_and_the_transmutation_of_man__a_roadmap_to_the_singularity.pdf
Carl Jung: Individuation Process
_http://www.mindstructures.com/carl-jung-individuation-process/
NATHAN MARTIN:
Collinear ideas:
the importance of critical thinking
the need for self-observation/knowledge
the value of interpersonal mirrors for making conscious changes in our thinking and behavior
free will being dependent on true individuality
individuality is very different than personality
the goal is individuation so external world is not dictating inner being
insights of Jung and the Gnostics
hyperdimensional beings differentiated from extraterrestrial
prevalence and complexity of disinformation
enslavement by matrix control system
pyramidal hierarchy of controllers
suspicions of manipulation of our minds to change our perceptive processes and memories
Truth = knowledge + understanding - contradictions
Lie = impartial/false knowledge + contradictions – understanding
self-examination/self-knowledge essential to avoid deception
the need for waking from sleep and developing eyes that see reality
monotheism control program; doing-to-be vs. doing-from-being
circle people vs. pyramid people
psychopathic controllers
pending segregation of those seeing reality from those captured by deceptions
wariness about the new-age view of “ascension”
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(Thanks Pierre for the article)
