The "Mandela Effect"- Has my Bible changed? Or do I just have a bad memory like most people?

@Claus Thanks for the above post.

I didn't catch her name so I'll have to say "that girl" that you posted above, was pretty good, but in that video as well and the Mandela effect in general I still get lost in the weeds a bit.

I just watched her other video on Organic Portals, (she does call them Organic Portholes) and I have to say I think she ringing the bell on this one. She covers it from top to bottom. Going back to the Gnostic's, then Boris Mouravieff, the matrix movie and the story of Pinocchio. Also explains that they aren't completely soul-less but are part of a soul group and in time can become "Pinocchio-ed into a real soul. 18 minutes long and not sure what to think about her yet, but this video I think is worth the watch.

 
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@Claus I didn't catch her name so I'll have to say "that girl"
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Her name is (apparently) Sarah Elkhaldy, her nickname for the YT channel is "the Alchemist".
Ref : The Alchemist

I haven't studied her videos in details, but globally my impression is that she tackles interesting subjects (a bit like Montalk) but she's often in the middle between (or closer to) new age "cointelpro" and (rather than) the knowledge gathered here.

Short example :

Also I feel (or imagine ?) that there is something dark emanating from her, that I really dislike.
I wouldn't be surprised to discover that she was (or still is) involved in black magic, or something like that...
What about you : same feeling ?

I discovered her through French translations of her videos, along others from Mark Passio, a "former" satanist, who is not completely "clear" neither. (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkPassio)

Sorry, today is not the best day to name such "dark" peoples. :-/
 
I'm not picking up a dark feeling from her. That doesn't mean it's not there, but I not feeling it. She came up on my radars as she looks like she is on to something, therefore worth some time to have a look. As with anyone or thing new on the radar, must be scrutinized for the obvious reasons. I've look at your link and a few others, which helped the assessment. I do think her explanation of OP's was pretty good, but I don't think I'll go any further with her. Actually I did the same thing with Passio years ago. I had a look and kept on moving. Thanks for the link.

Watching the outer-limits of the radar is actually what got me to here today. Lots of babies and lots of bath waters I’ve had to go through to bring me to a point where I could give credence to a California grad student taking peyote in the Mexican desert, or a Floridian housewife using a Ouija board, but here we are! I'm not sure if continuing to watching the outer-limits of the radar is still necessary or just a habit. Dunno? But one concern I have is believing that me and my group are the only ones that are holding the truth, and anything new must be bad. (it took me 10 years to fully break free from religion)

Thanks again for your work and your comments.
 
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I experienced an unusual happening today. My husband and I went to the supermarket. Upon entering we picked the first trolley available that had not been put back in with the other trolleys. The trolley we took was silver when most of them are black. I usually take a black trolley as they are newer and look smarter.

We did our shopping and returned to the car. I then put the trolley away in the carpark trolley bay and noticed it was black. Then wondered if I had remembered the colour incorrectly. I went to the car and asked my husband without saying anything further, “what colour trolley did we have?”,
“silver” he replied. I then led him to the trolley bay which was only one carpark over from where we parked to show him the trolley I just put away. He confirmed the colour as black.

It was all very strange, we both experienced a weird glitch either in our memory or reality simultaneously.
 
gottathink said:
I experienced an unusual happening today. My husband and I went to the supermarket. Upon entering we picked the first trolley available that had not been put back in with the other trolleys. The trolley we took was silver when most of them are black. I usually take a black trolley as they are newer and look smarter.

We did our shopping and returned to the car. I then put the trolley away in the carpark trolley bay and noticed it was black. Then wondered if I had remembered the colour incorrectly. I went to the car and asked my husband without saying anything further, “what colour trolley did we have?”,
“silver” he replied. I then led him to the trolley bay which was only one carpark over from where we parked to show him the trolley I just put away. He confirmed the colour as black.

It was all very strange, we both experienced a weird glitch either in our memory or reality simultaneously.
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It was a case of poor memory, the whole thing was bugging me trying to figure out what happened then it came to me, the trolley switch happened at the checkout. When we empty the trolley putting the groceries onto the conveyor belt the check out person fills the trolley left behind by the customer in front. Simple example of how fragile our memory and perception of reality can be.
 
I think this may be the most convincing Mandela effect example I have come across - the missing cornucopia in the "Fruit of the Loom" logo. The way it is now there was "never" a cornucopia in that logo.

On the left is what many people remember, on the right is what "it has always been":

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What stands out is that many, many people remember learning what a cornucopia is by asking about the "Fruit of the Loom" logo - it used to be the most commonly known example of a cornucopia. Memories like that are much less likely to be a misremembering.

The C's have said that some examples of the Mandela effect can indicate a 'change in the program', like a deja vu:

January 14th 2023

(Joe) I have one question: Is there anything to the so-called Mandela Effect other than people's tendency to confuse and conflate information?

A: In some cases it can indicate a change in the "program".

Q: (L) Like déjà-vu?

A: Yes
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They said this before talking about 'program change' a year later in relation to Trump and the Quorum. Maybe the 'change in the program' (Mandela effect) and the 'program change' (Quorum) are unrelated, or maybe there is some similar overall mechanism.

To me it seems that the 'true' Mandela effect examples that are a real 'deja vu' of a previous version of reality are most likely caused by timeline interference and manipulation through time travel, which the C's have also talked about:

01-22-2000

Q: I was thinking about time travel when I went to sleep that night. I wasn't thinking about Nostradamus, for sure, but I was pondering time travel. The thing I was thinking about was that, for some reason, we are all going about it in the wrong direction. Time travel is, in my opinion, a lot easier than we suspect, though I can't quite wrap my mind around what it is we are missing here. Can you help me out here? People keep thinking in terms of a) collapsing the gravity wave so that time around stops; or b) going faster than light so that time stops in that way. Either of those two approaches seems to be going at it backward, but I can't explain why. What is it that I am trying to get my mind to grab onto that is slipping away?

A: Changing channels.

Q: Changing channels? You mean you can change channels to do it?

A: Yes. All is present, there is your illusion.

Q: Is the changing of channels something that is accomplished internally, like in the physiological structure, or in the mental/psychic/soul structure?

A: More complex.

Q: But, you said before that one has to generate an electromagnetic field, a la Tesla coils, do you have to have massive amounts of power in order to change channels and time travel?

A: That is the pathway accessible from 3rd density.

Q: How much power do you have to have?

A: Let us just say that GIGAWATT is the term of choice.

Q: Okay, if you are generating a magnetic field, and you "change the channel," is it from that immediate point within this field, that you can access a channel of some sort, and move into a different timeline. I mean, is it like being suddenly placed at the center of a spider web, with all the times available all around one, and it is a matter of direction of choice?

A: Something like that.

Q: What kind of device, or control system would you use to select the proper channel? Is this strictly a mental activity, or is there something that you use to select a frequency which resonates with a particular time, or channel, and you have to experiment to figure out which time is which frequency? (A) How do we tune?

A: Your suggestion of mental imagining's good.

Q: So you have to be able to create a mental image, which means that you must HAVE a mental image of something that is fairly accurate that will pull you into the right "time line." You have to have a marker, a significant marker!

A: Dates will do.

Q: If dates will do, and the calendar has been screwed with so much, do you use the concept of say, "2000 years before today," ignoring conventional calendrical systems? Is that it?

A: One method.

Q: Well, clearly, if you are traveling backwards and forwards in time, you want to move into the timeline in a discreet manner. You don't want to just appear in the middle of a street in a busy city with a bunch of people standing around staring at your materialization, who immediately grab you and burn you at the stake. So, if that is the case, perhaps you want to select your location as well as your time. And, how can you select a location without having an image, and how can you know that your image of the location is correct if...

A: Your are assuming immediate appearance in the visual spectrum as recognized by 3rd density.

Q: So, assuming that one materializes immediately is apparently not so.

A: It is not necessarily so.

Q: So, you can time travel and remain invisible? Sort of in an ethereal state, and then opt, at any point, to become more solid?

A: If you have skill/knowledge. If not, it could indeed be a "crapshoot."

Q: Is that 7-11 you win; snake eyes you lose!? (A) But this time travel involves TransDimensional Remolecularization. (L) I guess, if you have the skill it does, but if not, it doesn't. Very interesting. I have been looking at the French cave paintings which are so obviously superior to later prehistoric art, and I started thinking that maybe these caves could be what time travellers use as their points of entry and departure. (A) Suppose you time travel, can some other beings, even advanced humans, see you on a screen or something? In other words, when you time travel, can they monitor you? Kill you, block you? Are they "watching" to make sure that nobody time travels? Is there some sort of "time travel police," as was suggested in a movie I once saw? Is this possible?

A: Can be monitored, but only to a limited extent.

Q: Is time travel something that is going to be a significant part of our future?

A: Yes, absolutely!!!

Q: This dream I had, when we appeared in this other reality, we came tumbling down a chute of some sort, through the castle wall, and landed on our bottoms in this hallway with people walking back and forth! We were standing in a field one minute, and the next minute there we were! We weren't even dressed appropriately. (F) Yes, it would be hard to explain to Henry VIII who Calvin Klein is! (L) But, on the other hand, there is always the possibility that time travel could include transferring your focus of consciousness from one of your "selves" in one time period to another of your selves in another period, what we would call another "incarnation." You just change your focus.

A: These all are reality. And of course, the UFO issue is tied into this too.
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June 24th 2022

(Ark) Suppose we can build a time machine. What would be the beneficial uses of such a device?

A: Not many. STS uses tech to control and manipulate, but each use causes negative impact cascades.

Q: (Ark) The logical 'not many' that there may be some beneficial uses. I would like to know examples.

A: Changing trajectories of history on many scales so as to eliminate extreme suffering.

Q: (L) So when you say, "many scales", you mean like in an individual life, in the lives of a family would be another scale, and the life of a town or community, a city, a country, and the planet. Those are different scales?

A: Yes and cosmic as well in rare cases. For example, we are time travelling right now.

Q: (Joe) That suggests that time travelling can be described as being able to communicate with the past or future... but only communication.

(Ark) Does such a machine need a human special operator, or is it just a machine?

A: First option.

Q: (Ark) Is it the case that if this machine would be operated by STS, it would kill the operator?

A: No.

Q: (Ark) Can one prevent somehow STS to misuse or to use such technology?

A: No.

Q: (Pierre) But they already time travel at will, messing up our timeline...

(Ark) But if we can also do this, we can mess up their messing up, no?

A: Intent must be pure STO for best results.

Q: (Chu) But no human is pure STO, so a human shouldn't be the operator.

(L) Well, a human can have a pure intent. They just can't hold it for very long.

(Ark) Next question: Such a device, is it just a technology, or do you need some physics and theory to understand and to operate it?

A: Best results come with knowledge.

Q: (Ark) Is this knowledge some kind of esoteric knowledge, or...

A: No.

Q: (Ark) Does it include mathematics?

A: Yes

Q: (Ark) I'm done. Thank you.

(Barb) I have a question about that. When? When will such a machine be invented?

(Artemis) It already has.

A: That ship has sailed.

(Joe) There are people that have it, but we don't have it.

Q: (Barb) Okay, let me ask that differently. When will the human race have access to that technology?

A: 4D.

Q: (Joe) Here's the problem: In 4D or some other reality there are some that might have that kind of intent or a more pure STO intent who could use it, but like they said at the beginning, the reason that you'd use it would be to change the trajectory of history on many scales so as to eliminate extreme suffering. But then you've got a problem: how are you going to decide that you should eliminate the suffering of people on a planet or anywhere when that suffering might have been necessary? So who's gonna make the decision to stop someone from experiencing something? How much knowledge would you have to have about the broad implications of stopping someone from having an experience? What would that lead to? What are the knock-on effects?

(Chu) And that might be abridging their free will.

(Joe) So, it seems like it's the kind of thing that only an STS manipulative mindset would want to use.

(Andromeda) Unless you had a LOT more knowledge that we don't have right now. You'd have to have an understanding of other people's free will to subject somebody else to that.

(L) Well, it's fascinating. I'd like to be able to go back and tell myself something. And that's what I'm doing here: I'm coming back and telling myself something.

(Joe) But that's a paradox. You might think that if I had a time travel machine, I wouldn't be abridging anybody's free will if I just limited it to talking to myself in the past and telling myself in the past stuff. But the problem is that the person you are today is dependent on all of the experiences that you had in the past. If you messed up...

(L) If you messed up, you messed up for a reason.

(Joe) You in the present talking to yourself in the past wouldn't exist because you'd have changed who you were in the past and therefore who you are now.

(L) That's why they won't tell us some things.

(Joe) It's the time travel paradox.

(L) Can you imagine if that technology was available to human beings and everybody could get access?

(Joe) They'd wreck the place.

(L) There would be chaos.

(Niall) Look what happened when people got the ability to talk to anyone they want to. Social media. The internet. It's MADNESS!

(Ark) You can imagine a completely passive time machine. When you go, and see the past, see the history. You want to go to Jesus' time or whatever. Another thing completely is a different scale to be able to change something without killing yourself.

(Joe) But the next is: Do you need a time machine say in 4D to view past events? Or is that available to you as a function of that reality?

(Ark) But just to travel into the past just to see...

(L) A psychomantium would be a passive time machine.

(Joe) Could someone with a time machine go back and actually be present at a certain point in the past? Embodied?

(Andromeda) Like Bill and Ted?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And then they get stuck there.

(Ark) Is there just one main history that you can view, or there are many alternative histories?

A: Latter.

Q: (Joe) So then the past you've viewed, is that what happened or just a possibility?

(Ark) I mean, how can there be a past that's an alternative to me being born in 1943??

A: You are here now as the result of following specific branching events that manifest as a result of choices.
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Here is a video that made me more aware of the weirdness around the cornucopia logo and why it may be the best example of a real Mandela effect. There are many examples of so-called 'Mandela effect residue' in this case, such as references to the cornucopia in their logo in printed media, etc. Again, currently there has "never" been a cornucopia in that logo at all:


She also mentions that the symbolism of a 'missing cornucopia' may be important and I think she may be on to something.
 
Thanks for collecting all these quotes @axj. The fruit of the loom thing always stood out for me because I had 2 t-shirts as a kid with the logo on the front, and although I can't be 100% certain, I'm quite sure it had the cornucopia. As she said, as a kid these things make you curious. I'm pretty sure that if I never had heard about the Mandela effect and someone showed me both versions, I would pick the cornucopia one

Just occured to me: where does the logo with the cornucopia that people are showing in these videos actually come from when it supposedly either never existed or was completely wiped by the mandela effect?
 
I got an other one, I have observed myselve (or I think I have and it was only an illusion).
It is about the forklift/chainsaw/other tools maker STIHL... I don't konw if you know that company.
But sometimes it changes to STILL and then back again to STIHL.
Has anyone observed the same?
 
Claus said:
I got an other one, I have observed myselve (or I think I have and it was only an illusion).
It is about the forklift/chainsaw/other tools maker STIHL... I don't konw if you know that company.
But sometimes it changes to STILL and then back again to STIHL.
Has anyone observed the same?
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It’s two separate companies. I use STILL machines in my job. They’re painted the same colour as STIHL, too.
 
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