The moon is spinning!!!

durabone

Jedi Council Member
No, it isn't!

But wait though. If the Moon's rotational period did not match its orbital period, then the fact that it is roughly a sphere would have been apparent to the ancients, Gallileo would not have been murdered, and Christopher Columbus would not have had to set sail to prove the Earth is round! Tee hee. What is this planet, a sucker punch for psychopaths?
 
Hi Potamus,

I'm wondering why you posted this in the psychopaths section? It's been relocated to the 'what's on your mind' section.
 
Excuse my ignorance.

If the moon's rotational period did not match its orbital period, how would it have been obvious it was a sphere?

I am not good with motions of planets or planetary bodies and the terminology that accompany them. I assume by rotational period you mean how fast it spins around its axis and by orbital period how fast it spins around the earth?
 
I think the 'Holy Church' was certain that even if the moon followed a nonlogical flat shaped orbit, or even if they taught that the moon went around the stations of the cross, or that is was made of out the unleven bread of the body of Jesus. Given any evidence that the moon was a sphere in a set path with the math and science to back it up....well that would be talking to Satan himself!

Truth can be deadly when presented to those who hold power with obvious lies.


Potamus said:
No, it isn't!

But wait though. If the Moon's rotational period did not match its orbital period, then the fact that it is roughly a sphere would have been apparent to the ancients, Gallileo would not have been murdered, and Christopher Columbus would not have had to set sail to prove the Earth is round! Tee hee. What is this planet, a sucker punch for psychopaths?
 
Potamus said:
No, it isn't!

But wait though. If the Moon's rotational period did not match its orbital period, then the fact that it is roughly a sphere would have been apparent to the ancients, Gallileo would not have been murdered, and Christopher Columbus would not have had to set sail to prove the Earth is round! Tee hee. What is this planet, a sucker punch for psychopaths?

Galileo wasn't murdered, he spent the last 10 years of his life under house arrest.

I think his demise wasn't so much that the catholic church insisted the moon was flat, they probably knew and accepted it was a sphere long before that, because for one thing due to it's orbit it doesn't show exactly the same face to Earth, it seems to wobble slightly so overall we see slightly more than half.
It was because Galileo said the earth wasn't at the center of the universe and it revolved round the sun, which was contrary to their interpretation of the bible.
 
Nice responses everyone, thanks. My idea was simple. If the moon rotated, the shapes on it would have revealed obvious spherical tendencies.

Peam: House arrest, hi-jack your life break your dreams. You may be correct in tehcnico.
 
Mythbusters: If you read the charges against Galileo, you will probably agree that he was 'murdered', not for his 'scientific utterances', but for his criticism of church scriptures and doctrines. This is one of the great myths of science. The chief inquisitor, Cardinal Bellarmine, had no problem with his 'science' or rather neo-Platonism.

I'd be bold enough to say that Galileo was an artful plagiarist. That includes the telescope (French lenses with Dutch knowhow) and his little experiment with gravity which was conducted earlier by Simon Stevin. Galileo got the credit for repeating Stevin's experiment in a similar way that Marconi got the credit for discovering radio waves.
 
wanderer33 said:
Mythbusters: If you read the charges against Galileo, you will probably agree that he was 'murdered', not for his 'scientific utterances', but for his criticism of church scriptures and doctrines. This is one of the great myths of science. The chief inquisitor, Cardinal Bellarmine, had no problem with his 'science' or rather neo-Platonism.
According to wikipedia, Cardinal Bellarmine forbade Galileo in 1616 to defend the Copernican theory of heliocentrism on the Pope's orders. Bellarmine himself is said to have been ambiguous about heliocentrism and noted that more research was needed to prove or disprove it. He died in 1621.
Galileo faced another inquisition in 1633 where he was condemned to house arrest for allegedly continuing to defend heliocentrism. However according to wikipedia's Galileo affair , there is an alternative theory.
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According to a controversial alternative theory, proposed by Pietro Redondi in 1983,[27] the main reason for Galileo's condemnation in 1633 was his attack on the Aristotelian doctrine of matter rather than his defence of Copernicanism. An anonymous document discovered by Redondi in the Vatican archives had argued that the atomism espoused by Galileo in his previous work, The Assayer, of 1623 was incompatible with the doctrine of transubstantiation of the Eucharist.[28] At the time, investigation of this complaint was apparently trusted to a Father Giovanni di Guevara, who was well-disposed towards Galileo, and who cleared The Assayer from any taint of unorthodoxy.[29] However, according to Redondi:

* The Jesuits, who had been deeply offended by The Assayer, regarded the ideas about matter expressed by Galileo in The Dialogue as further evidence that his atomism was heretically inconsistent with the doctrine of the Eucharist, and strongly protested against it on these grounds.[30]
* Pope Urban VIII, who had been under attack by Spanish cardinals for being too tolerant of heretics, but who had also encouraged Galileo to publish The Dialogue, would have been severely compromised if his enemies among the Cardinal Inquisitors had found out that he had been guilty of supporting a publication containing Eucharistic heresies.
* Urban, after banning the book's sale, established a commission to examine The Dialogue,[23] ostensibly for the purpose of determining whether it would be possible to avoid referring the matter to the Inquisition at all, and as a special favor to Galileo's patron, the Grand Duke of Tuscany. Urban's real purpose, though, was to avoid having the accusations of Eucharistic heresy referred to the Inquisition, and he stacked the commission with friendly commissioners who could be relied upon not to mention them in their report.[citation needed] The commission reported against Galileo.[23]

Redondi's theory has been severely criticized, and almost universally rejected, by other Galileo scholars.[31] However, it has been supported recently by musician, science writer, author and novelist Michael White,[32] who gives a view, including Redondi's, and further evidence.
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Based on this alternative theory, it seems that Galileo was penalized for his scientific views (ideas about matter) which were seen to be in opposition to Church doctrines.
So when you write
[quote author=wanderer33]
If you read the charges against Galileo, you will probably agree that he was 'murdered', not for his 'scientific utterances', but for his criticism of church scriptures and doctrines.
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what sources are you referring to?
 
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