Autobot said:
Bernhard said:
Hmmm, opportunity for what? Obama has his strings clearly attached and he's a 100% supporter of Israel.
Well, opportunity to vote for the black guy. Like I said, what's the other option - not vote, or write someone in. Besides, it's not like our votes 'count' in any real sense. I could write in Jon Stewart too, or Barney the Purple Dinosaur, or Myself and my vote would be just as useless as voting for Obama or McSame, sooooo what's the harm in voting for Obama?
Honestly, I wouldn't be able to tell if a vote "counts" or not. How can one prove it? What IF it counts? On some level you are giving your energy/permission to that person. So whoever I give my vote to, I want to make sure that he/she can see through the main issues affecting the world these days (questioning war on terror, al qaida, 9/11, Israel, etc). I don't see any candidate TRULY addressing these issues, including Ron Paul. And obviously no one would , because he/she would not even up there to begin with if they would truly question any of that.
Truth is not good for popularity.
Autobot said:
I might add there is the infinitesimally small chance that he's playing the game to get in office and then pull a shake-up Kennedy style. I mean, it's a possibility even if it's like a .00001% chance, no? That would make him a better option then any of the above.... osit.
Sure nothing is set in stone, so to speak or as the C's would say it is "open". But this contradicts what you said above that you consider your vote useless.
So in a sense you do project some "Hope" into Obama, even if it only .00001%.
However, in this day and age I think nothing will change by crossing an X on election day and "hoping" that someone will lead the way out of this. It's more wishful thinking than "hope" and could actually result in more serious problems, when mistaking "A" for "B" influences.
As far as I see Obama, based on my own observation, trying to be as objective as my current state of "Being" allows, I see more manipulation and even more deception in many ways than Bush or McCain. With Bush it is quite obvious. With Obama, he is more eloquent, more likable, can talk better, finds the right words, but essentially his policy is really not that much different than that of the Bush administration. I see him as more perfected psychopath, a better actor, giving the people exactly what they want to hear, mirroring their desperation and appearing to be different, when he is not at all. To me it seems the deception is becoming more and more subtle, where "A" influences are being mistaken as "B" influences more easily, giving bits of truth but still saturated with lies in very cunning ways.
Obama seems to have a big following in the New Age Movement, promoted as a Light Worker, who will bring world peace. That alone should raise some questions.
People project so many things into him, including his Kennedy comparison, it is rather disturbing to me.
I see him as the best tool, the perfect puppet, so to speak, better than McCain or Bush, to bring in total control, which the people will accept without questioning, precisely because of his hyped image of the "Savior" and appearing as a "Minority".
Of course, I could be all wrong with the way I currently see it, but I wouldn't just bet on the .00001%
I think, what it comes down to is reflected in the new direction here on the forum, and that is focus on esoteric matters. I think it is quite obvious that the majority of people are not going to wake up, because waking up requires quite some (Self)-Work and not just voting for the "right" person.
Krishnamurti said it well in a talk he gave over 40 years go (from his book "The First and Last Freedom"):
Krishnamurti said:
No leader is going to gives us peace, no government, no army, no country. What will bring peace is inward transformation, which will lead to outward action. Inward transformation is not isolation, is not withdrawal from outward action. On the contrary, there can be right action only when there is right thinking and there is no right thinking when there is no self-knowledge. Without knowing yourself, there is no peace.
To put an end to outward war, you must begin to put an end to war in yourself. Some of you will nod your heads and say, "I agree", and go outside and do exactly the same as you have been doing for the last ten or twenty years. Your agreement is merely verbal and has no significance, for the world's miseries and wars are not going to be stopped by your casual assent. They will be only stopped when you realize the danger, when you realize your responsibility, when you do not leave it to somebody else. If you realize the suffering, if you see the urgency of immediate action and do not postpone, then you will transform yourself and the world.
In a way, the Obama hype (which is so apparent where I live, here in California) reminds me of a section in "Bringers of the Dawn" by the P's.
In this particular excerpt, they talk more about alien intervention, but their take on "authority" can be applied to the political system as well and the foolishness of following world leaders. At least that's how see it. The walk towards a "false god" is something that reminds me of the Obama hype these days, all based on blind belief and wishful thinking. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Obama (if he becomes president) would play the "brothers from space" card, considering the support he has in the New Age Movement, who also can't wait for their Space Brothers to land and "unite" humanity. I'm going a bit far out here with the Obama topic, but maybe you can catch my drift.
Bringers of the Dawn said:
Not everyone is going to make the shift. Everyone is not in the vibration that wants to work in harmony at this time. There are those on Earth who will feel as if they are in states of ecstacy when they find what they think is a new authority, a higher authority, a new paradigm. You are all learning about authority... That authority is coming back to Earth. There is a lesson in this for Earth. These beings, who are neither spiritually informed nor lean in spiritual ways, deny the existence of a spiritual force. They have developed scientific principles and technologies that scatter the laws of sprituality... It is possible to become a brilliant master of manipulating matter and reality without understanding spritual connections. It is very important that you learn this... Just as you have cultivated very powerful individuals upon this planet who are not in touch with their feeling centers... there are those who exist in space who are extremely powerful... who have nothing to do with spirituality... Wanting to have something to worship is the frequency control on Earth. What the planet is headed for is someone or something new to worship.
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Many of you may find that you will be very frustrated. You will see things that others will not see; you will see a mass mania occurring on this planet, and you will not be able to live with it. You will see masses of people walk toward a false god that is foolishness. Many of you who have studied and used your own discernment will be shocked and appalled at the foolishness and ideological worship that the rest of the human race will express toward certain beings from space. You will become disgusted with society because you will not fit with the new gods, and you will retreat.
