The power of the mind

[andi]

I think you don't even read my question.

Oh Luka91, we are reading your question just fine, but don't expect us to read minds.

All of you just write a phrase or a thought you want to share.

Are you not actually projecting yourself onto us ??

 

[Luka91]

I think you don't even read my question.

Oh Luka91, we are reading your question just fine, but don't expect us to read minds.

All of you just write a phrase or a thought you want to share.

Are you not actually projecting yourself onto us ??

If you have read then answer or shut up and do not be Mr." I know everything", God damned. And, yes, maybe I project. Thank you!

 

[Mountain Crown]

P.s. Why/what is the barrier?

Ignorance.

 

[andi]

[quote author=Luka91]
If you have read then answer or shut up and do not be Mr." I know everything", God damned. And, yes, maybe I project. Thank you!
[/quote]

Yes you do project.
I wasn't being disrespectful towards you in any way in my post. Now, why would you want to use that tone?


If there is something bothering you please say it out loud so everybody can clearly understand. If you, one the other hand, just want an answer , remember that nobody is obligated to give you one.

If I did not understand you correctly, please take the time to re-explain while being a bit more polite.

 

[shijing]

I think you don't even read my question.

Oh Luka91, we are reading your question just fine, but don't expect us to read minds.

All of you just write a phrase or a thought you want to share.

Are you not actually projecting yourself onto us ??

If you have read then answer or shut up and do not be Mr." I know everything", God damned. And, yes, maybe I project. Thank you!

Luka91, I realize that you are frustrated with the feedback you have received so far, but please note that your tone in the post quoted above, as well as your use of profanity, both violate the forum rules, which you may want to read if you haven't done so already.

I realize that the language barrier can make things more difficult sometimes, but please be patient with the other members who are trying to respond to you, just as they are being patient in trying to understand what you are asking. Also keep in mind that sometimes feedback may be offered regarding why we ask a particular question, and not merely in direct response to the question -- and this can be just as valuable, if not moreso, although we may not realize it at the time :)

 

[Luka91]

Ah, OK. I have to apologize myself by Andi and all others. You must not answer my question. I was just thinking if I can find the answer here, but I must research further.

@Jerry:
What kind of ignorance? In which case?

Thanks and sorry again for my behavior :)

 

[Mountain Crown]

[quote author=Luka91]@Jerry:
What kind of ignorance? In which case?[/quote]

Try for a moment to imagine a carpenter from a culture where there is no such thing as a piano, or any other musical instrument. There is no word or image to correspond to the reality of “piano.”

Then a fellow countryman returns from his travels and declares there is a thing named “piano.”

The carpenter is unsuccessful at building that piano and wonders what’s missing in his efforts.

The analogy is not perfect, but it illustrates what it means to work with concepts alone without the accompanying experiential knowledge to which those concepts point.

It seems that what you are really concerned with is that a potential isn’t being awakened in you by merely commanding it to do so.

 

[Luka91]

Do you mean I have to think/research/learn about a concept everyday to understand what It is and then try to use it to develop myself and others around me?

 

[manitoban]

Do you mean I have to think/research/learn about a concept everyday to understand what It is and then try to use it to develop myself and others around me?

Hi Luka,

Yes, thinking, researching and learning everyday is the way to work toward greater understanding. Often, in order to understand one concept, we may need to understand other concepts first, as Jerry has tried to illustrate with his piano analogy. Here is a bit of a discussion from the C's sessions about how our thinking changes the more we learn.

Q: (A) When you watch, look and listen, you are getting some signals, and these signals cause a certain pattern of thinking which were not yet able to emerge,
but now, after you receive certain signals, you start to think in a different way. So, you cannot now think in a different way, but when you learn this and this has
happened, then you start to think in a different pattern. So, you cannot now do things, but you always have to be ready to change your thinking at any moment
when you understand more, when you see more, when you notice more, when you put things together which are not yet together. Then, there may be a big
change of perspective, a total change. And this we have to keep our minds and thinking patterns open and ready to change, and work and put the puzzle and
mosaic together. And, this is all that counts. It is this work that we are now doing that counts, not some future big thing: oh! Now we go on a ship! No, it is only
doing our best, and what is it? Our best? It will change. I believe so. That is the idea. So, everything depends on this.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Do you mean I have to think/research/learn about a concept everyday to understand what It is and then try to use it to develop myself and others around me?

Seems logical to me that the development of anything is dependent on how accurately one understands it.

There is only so much the intellect can contribute effectively. Impartial observation and concentration is necessary.

Members of this forum are aware that emotions are often mechanical reactions which interfere with interpreting information, and can confuse us as well as dull our concentration. Yet true understanding includes our feeling natures, so their development is necessary.

If we are mistaken about or lack knowledge of ourselves, our development is hindered.

Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers.

Added: manitoban's post is excellent.

 

[Stevie Argyl]

Hello
Why does it takes so much time to develop "mind power"? If I realize and make it in my mind clear that I can move an object and that everything is energy and connected in the Universe, why can't I move it? Can someone give me just a clue? I was researching and that was the "stop" point. :(

What gives you such a firm belief that moving an object by mind can be done? have you seen it done?

 

[Psalehesost]

Why is there a barrier in our brain/mind/conscious/subconscious[...]and what causes it?

Q: (L) What distinguishes one realm from another?
A: Assumptions.
[...]
Q: (L) What determines your assumptions?
A: Experience.
Q: (L) My experience of atoms is that they congregate in such a way as to form solid matter...
A: Every thing that exists is merely a lesson.
Q: (L) Okay, so once we have learned certain lessons, as in experience of certain things, then our assumptions change?
A: Yes.

In short, you are limited in your power to mentally affect things for the same reason you are limited to experiencing 3D rather than 4D, or 6D, or 7D.

 

[Ca.]

luka91, I can understand perhaps your struggling with what people are offering to help you, to grasp and understand these concepts. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are sincere and not here to play games.

What has been offered, is pretty basic in the ideas and principles of what it is in being sts, and moving towards sto thinking and a way of life. But i will proceed with caution as I am having some reservations.

There have been other post that leave me thinking, and feeling i am seeing a certain pattern in this type of posting and behavior, which apprears void in the question's and reasoning. Almost like a machine..... So if you are sincere, Maybe this small article may help .................Good luck.

DISRUPTION.CA
Morale, Motivation and Startups
Erik on May 30th 2009

In January I read a blog post on likely causes for failure in a tech startup. This article resulted in a comment thread on Y Combinator’s Hacker News that I found to be particularly interesting.

The conversation starts with Joel Spolsky stating that the real reason why startups fail is because their founders give up.

The response to this is; yes, and their real cause of death is always heart failure. Why do founders give up?

Paul Graham replied:

The biggest reason founders stop working on their startups is that they get demoralized. Some people seem to have unlimited self-generated morale. These almost always succeed. At the other extreme there are people who seem to have no ability to do this; they need a boss to motivate them. In the middle there is a large band of people who have some, but not unlimited, ability to motivate themselves. These can succeed through careful morale management (and some luck).

Then a later in the conversation he said:

There seems to be some tendency of never-give-ups to cluster, but it’s not absolute. It’s common to have one founder who’s super determined and another who is less so.
If the never-give-up is sufficiently convincing, that’s almost as good as having all never-give-ups. He drags the rest along. The dangerous case is the startup that has all middle of the road founders. These have to get lucky fairly quickly or they give up.

This struck me as really deep, important stuff. I was surprised that it didn’t receive more attention from the Y Combinator community. Apparently Joel also found the discussion interesting, and wrote about it in his Inc. Magazine column.

In a nutshell, Graham’s observation is that if you have “unlimited self-generated morale” you will almost always succeed. If you don’t, you need to get lucky fairly quickly or you risk becoming demoralized and giving up.

When I read this I immediately wanted to know what the difference was between those in the first category and those in the second. Unfortunately, the discussion thread didn’t offer much useful insight and I didn’t find an answer to my question.

I recently started Carol Dweck’s book Mindset. Her theory is that people view the world with two different mindsets. People with a “growth” mindset believe that their abilities and intelligence can improve over time through hard work and challenging situations. People with a “fixed” mindset believe that their abilities and intelligence are innate and fixed. This difference may seem relatively minor, but according to Dweck’s research it has deep implications for how a person deals with challenges.

Here are some quotations from the book. I appologise for the lack of context.

The more depressed people with the growth mindset felt, the more they took action to confront their problems, the more they made sure to keep up with their schoolwork, and the more they kept up with their lives. The worse they felt, the more determined they became!

Also interesting:

People in a growth mindset don’t just seek challenge, they thrive on it.

Finally:

Students with the fixed mindset stayed interested only when they did well right away. Those who found it difficult showed a big drop in their interest and enjoyment. If it wasn’t a testimony to their intelligence, they couldn’t enjoy it.

Sound familiar? I don’t know if Dweck’s growth mindset is the key to Graham’s unlimited self-generated morale, but the dots seem to connect.

Dweck’s theories appear to be backed by sound research. Also, she claims that it is possible to learn the growth mindset, which is encouraging. I’m looking forward to the rest of the book.

Links:

Paul Buchheit discusses Dweck’s research
Wikipedia’s Article on Mindset
Mindset Online
Buy Mindset from Amazon (Not an affiliate link.)

 

[Luka91]

Hello
Why does it takes so much time to develop "mind power"? If I realize and make it in my mind clear that I can move an object and that everything is energy and connected in the Universe, why can't I move it? Can someone give me just a clue? I was researching and that was the "stop" point. :(

What gives you such a firm belief that moving an object by mind can be done? have you seen it done?

It was just an example :D but here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

 

[Stevie Argyl]

Hello
Why does it takes so much time to develop "mind power"? If I realize and make it in my mind clear that I can move an object and that everything is energy and connected in the Universe, why can't I move it? Can someone give me just a clue? I was researching and that was the "stop" point. :(

What gives you such a firm belief that moving an object by mind can be done? have you seen it done?

It was just an example :D but here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

he he he - you're pulling my leg :)