The predator in our mind: Can it leave us (for someone else)?

[Bo]

Hey guys,

Lately I was thinking a lot about the issue of the predator of an individual. We all have predators inside of us, and that made me wonder if it is possible for the predator to leave its host and enter the mind of another?


Let’s say that an individual has grown so strong and has grown a lot of willpower that the predator realizes it is losing its source of energy, and has no more power at all over the person’s mind. Is it then possible for that predator to leave the host and join forces with another predator in someone else’s mind who is much weaker??

 

[Nicholas]

Are you talking about spirit attachments?

From my understanding, the "predator's mind" is part of us. It is not something that just quits and goes away. It is always there. Something we need to learn to recognize, observe, and master.

Spirit attachments are a whole different story requiring them to be exorcised out in some manner.

 

[Masamune]

Bo,
From my understanding the "predator" inside of us does not refer to a conscious entity. It refers to our buffers and programs we are running from our abuse and wounding living in this world. http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6419.msg44151#msg44151

Therefore our "predator" cannot leave and enter someone else. We can run programs which can wound others in such a way that they develop similar programs, which would give them our "predator's mind" but it is not like an entity is passed from one to the other - even though I suppose this could happen as a consequence of the interaction.

 

[Bo]

Are you talking about spirit attachments?

From my understanding, the "predator's mind" is part of us. It is not something that just quits and goes away. It is always there. Something we need to learn to recognize, observe, and master.

Spirit attachments are a whole different story requiring them to be exorcised out in some manner.

Hi nicholas,

I'm not talking about spirit attachments, I’m talking about the actual predator which is a part of us. For some of us, it feels like it doesn't belong with us. But it is there, always. From our current understanding, the predator just doesn’t quits, but what if the individual has grown so strong that it leaves and enters another mind as an attachment? Or becomes an additional predator in someone else’s mind?

 

[Bo]

Bo,
From my understanding the "predator" inside of us does not refer to a conscious entity. It refers to our buffers and programs we are running from our abuse and wounding living in this world. http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6419.msg44151#msg44151

Therefore our "predator" cannot leave and enter someone else. We can run programs which can wound others in such a way that they develop similar programs, which would give them our "predator's mind" but it is not like an entity is passed from one to the other - even though I suppose this could happen as a consequence of the interaction.

This makes sense,

but it means that it could happen and potentially even harm the other individual more and I wonder if it DOES happen due to interaction would it then be qualified as a spiritual attachment.

 

[Masamune]

And if you are maybe referring to this quote from Don Juan:

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.

I think it is referring to frequency resonance vibration, meaning the more programs we are running and the more mechanical we are the more we can be influenced by 4D STS or psychopaths or Haarp or whatever. And the way to become free and make the "predator" flee is to do the Work and become conscious of our programs and our self.

 

[Mountain Crown]

It’s my understanding that the predator’s mind is another name for what Gurdjieff referred to as the false personality, the term being derived from Don Juan’s explanation to Casteneda of the predators; that they gave us their own mental construct and disposition.

Founded on lies, our sense of self is constantly questing for justification outside in the form of identifications and supporting relationships.

A feeder with no true understanding of others – a predator.

 

[Bo]

And if you are maybe referring to this quote from Don Juan:

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.

I think it is referring to frequency resonance vibration, meaning the more programs we are running and the more mechanical we are the more we can be influenced by 4D STS or psychopaths or Haarp or whatever. And the way to become free and make the "predator" flee is to do the Work and become conscious of our programs and our self.

That is what i was thinking about, that instead of fleeing they attach to other people in your evironment, but it makes sense if someone his or her FRV is low , that person has more chance on attracting maybe multiple ''predator'' attachments.

 

[anart]

And if you are maybe referring to this quote from Don Juan:

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.

I think it is referring to frequency resonance vibration, meaning the more programs we are running and the more mechanical we are the more we can be influenced by 4D STS or psychopaths or Haarp or whatever. And the way to become free and make the "predator" flee is to do the Work and become conscious of our programs and our self.

That is what i was thinking about, that instead of fleeing they attach to other people in your evironment, but it makes sense if someone his or her FRV is low , that person has more chance on attracting maybe multiple ''predator'' attachments.

Bo, there is a difference between one's 'predator' and spirit attachments. They are not the same thing. The predator is simply the programs one has developed over a lifetime, the false personality, all that holds one in the grip of entropy. Does this make sense?

 

[Bo]

And if you are maybe referring to this quote from Don Juan:

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.

I think it is referring to frequency resonance vibration, meaning the more programs we are running and the more mechanical we are the more we can be influenced by 4D STS or psychopaths or Haarp or whatever. And the way to become free and make the "predator" flee is to do the Work and become conscious of our programs and our self.

That is what i was thinking about, that instead of fleeing they attach to other people in your evironment, but it makes sense if someone his or her FRV is low , that person has more chance on attracting maybe multiple ''predator'' attachments.

Bo, there is a difference between one's 'predator' and spirit attachments. They are not the same thing. The predator is simply the programs one has developed over a lifetime, the false personality, all that holds one in the grip of entropy. Does this make sense?

Hmm yes it makes, but I am trying to think a little bit out of the box. I was more wondering that what if those programs, the false personality attaches to another person? Could the false personality just…leave and go to someone else? This is speculation. I just want to know if it could be possible or is heard of?

 

[EmeraldHope]

And if you are maybe referring to this quote from Don Juan:

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.

I think it is referring to frequency resonance vibration, meaning the more programs we are running and the more mechanical we are the more we can be influenced by 4D STS or psychopaths or Haarp or whatever. And the way to become free and make the "predator" flee is to do the Work and become conscious of our programs and our self.

That is what i was thinking about, that instead of fleeing they attach to other people in your evironment, but it makes sense if someone his or her FRV is low , that person has more chance on attracting maybe multiple ''predator'' attachments.

Bo, there is a difference between one's 'predator' and spirit attachments. They are not the same thing. The predator is simply the programs one has developed over a lifetime, the false personality, all that holds one in the grip of entropy. Does this make sense?

Hmm yes it makes, but I am trying to think a little bit out of the box. I was more wondering that what if those programs, the false personality attaches to another person? Could the false personality just…leave and go to someone else? This is speculation. I just want to know if it could be possible or is heard of?

Bo, because it is false, it is not viable without the person to whom it belongs continuing to feed it. The only thing that is possible, is that the harmful actions of the false self may induce trauma and a " predator" program in others, which they would also have to clear. In that sense it is more like a virus, like pathology.

 

[Mountain Crown]

[quote author=Bo]that instead of fleeing [/quote]

"Fleeing" is used as "vanishing," not just "running away."

I think transformation, or rewiring the self, may be better terms for you to consider.

In that sense it is more like a virus, like pathology

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Maybe it would be better to say it can have a viral or pathological effect.

 

[EmeraldHope]

In that sense it is more like a virus, like pathology

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Maybe it would be better to say it can have a viral or pathological effect.

Much better wording. Thank you.

 

[go2]

In that sense it is more like a virus, like pathology.

That's cool, EH...I think of the predator as an algorithm from the depths of the cosmos.

 

[Bo]

[quote author=Bo]that instead of fleeing

"Fleeing" is used as "vanishing," not just "running away."

I think transformation, or rewiring the self, may be better terms for you to consider.

In that sense it is more like a virus, like pathology

.

Maybe it would be better to say it can have a viral or pathological effect.
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Thats more understandable, thanks!