The predator in our mind: Can it leave us (for someone else)?

[Gertrudes]

Building on what others have said, the predator mind being inherent to every single one of us is, if my reasoning is correct, the part of ourselves that has been created by unsolved shocks, trauma, abuse, and so on, and that shaped itself accordingly through a series of defense mechanisms created at an early age, later forming our false personality.
I don't think that this false personality is to be taken as something completely external to you that can flee. Perhaps external in the sense that it is not your soul, but it is still you, a part of your life experience and how you, personally, have dealt with some aspects of that experience. You can maybe think of it as part of the soul's clothing. Predator would be the denomination given to that set of auto defense mechanisms/programs inherent to oneself, that can:

have a viral or pathological effect.

The link Masamune posted explains that with greater depth and clarity though.

 

[Alana]

Building on what others have said, the predator mind being inherent to every single one of us is, if my reasoning is correct, the part of ourselves that has been created by unsolved shocks, trauma, abuse, and so on, and that shaped itself accordingly through a series of defense mechanisms created at an early age, later forming our false personality.
I don't think that this false personality is to be taken as something completely external to you that can flee. Perhaps external in the sense that it is not your soul, but it is still you, a part of your life experience and how you, personally, have dealt with some aspects of that experience. You can maybe think of it as part of the soul's clothing.

That's how i understand it myself. Think of it like this, Bo: let's say that through your childhood, in order to survive as a child in an environment that did not offer you the attention and love that you needed at that point in time, you learned to be a people pleaser so that you get praise from the people around you, which for you translated as love and attention. And say, now that you saw this program, observed it long and objectively and decided to halt it every time it made its appearance. And that one day you stopped it altogether. Do you think that on that day this program would now move and go to someone else?

 

[obyvatel]

Let’s say that an individual has grown so strong and has grown a lot of willpower that the predator realizes it is losing its source of energy, and has no more power at all over the person’s mind. Is it then possible for that predator to leave the host and join forces with another predator in someone else’s mind who is much weaker??

Mouravieff writes
[quote author=Gnosis Book pg 152]
In general, the reaction of those around towards someone who begins to search for the Way is negative. This negative attitude is the result of the action of the General Law, which as we know, tends to keep man in his place. Not being able to do this directly by the action of Illusion, the General Law, when it loses its dominion over the man who 'moves', acts indirectly by the mediation of those around him.
[/quote]
The overall goal of the General Law is to make sure that everyone tows the general line. So if someone breaks the line and cannot be brought back directly, it will act through others around him to bring him back in line. This may manifest as someone close to (or around) the individual doing the Work beginning to exhibit programs and mechanical behavior which was not apparent earlier.
Like in the Matrix movie, Agent Smith could get inside and act through anyone who was still "plugged in" to stop or hinder those who were unplugged.

fwiw

 

[Laura]

And if you are maybe referring to this quote from Don Juan:

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.

I think it is referring to frequency resonance vibration, meaning the more programs we are running and the more mechanical we are the more we can be influenced by 4D STS or psychopaths or Haarp or whatever. And the way to become free and make the "predator" flee is to do the Work and become conscious of our programs and our self.

That is what i was thinking about, that instead of fleeing they attach to other people in your evironment, but it makes sense if someone his or her FRV is low , that person has more chance on attracting maybe multiple ''predator'' attachments.

The predator is not an attachment. It cannot "flee" in the sense you are thinking. That's an unfortunate choice of words. What is meant by that is that the 4D STS cannot further manipulate you if you have achieved mastery of your own mind/being. That is the only "fleeing" that happens. And that is a very subtle thing.

For example: if you have a weak ego due to programming/false personality development, another person can come along, feed your ego, create a drama in your life where you are emotionally upset, and thus, 4D STS will be able to feed off of you. One way this can happen is if you believe lies. Say, for example, a girl comes along and lies to you to get you into a relationship. You believe her lies because your ego wants or needs to. The situation develops and you learn that the girl is lying and it's not really love, and you are in pain. That is the predator inside you enabling the feeding of 4D STS.

If, on the other hand, you had developed yourself to the point where you had discernment and will, such a situation would never happen.

I think you better read this post over a few times:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=6419.msg44151#msg44151

 

[AdamJM]

For example: if you have a weak ego due to programming/false personality development, another person can come along, feed your ego, create a drama in your life where you are emotionally upset, and thus, 4D STS will be able to feed off of you. One way this can happen is if you believe lies. Say, for example, a girl comes along and lies to you to get you into a relationship. You believe her lies because your ego wants or needs to. The situation develops and you learn that the girl is lying and it's not really love, and you are in pain. That is the predator inside you enabling the feeding of 4D STS.

I have gotten caught up in situations like this many times, so to see it written out like this is very helpful! i read on the forum somewhere that when one of these situations arises simply admitting the emotion or feeling you are feeling at that time takes away the power it holds over you, and i have found it beneficial in self-analysis for getting to the root of the problem which usually stems from a scratched ego or anger at myself for being so stupid as to believe the lies in the first place. it helps to get your priorities straight, like whether or not you want to spend your time in a downward spiral of self-pity or getting over it and doing something productive like seeing your vanity for what is and ensuring you dont make the same mistake again. so thanks for that :)
This question did make me wonder though, about how people spread their fears to one another (i think there was an article on signs recently about parents passing down their phobias to their children). it reminds me of the part in the guy richie film revolver where jason statham passes his neurosis onto ray liotta's character. its like the saying: negative feelings are infectious, but its like you said they dont jump from one person to next, but are adopted and instead of fleeing have to be dealt with over again until they have no control over you anymore. osit.

 

[Bo]

Thanks for the feedback,

I had been overthinking the issue a lot and was thinking of the possibility of the predator being able to ''move away''. but i got it now, the predator mind is not an attachment , period. Thanks !

 

[HowToBe]

Each of our programs can maybe be seen as a "hook" on the end of a puppet string, with hyperdimensional puppetmasters on the other end tugging the strings to control us. Once we see the hooks and admit their presence, we can pull them out and we are that much freer. It does not mean that the puppetmasters stop trying to control you, but their ability to do so effectively has been destroyed.

Of course, maybe I've misunderstood to some extent; these are my ideas after reading this thread. FWIW.

 

[Psalehesost]

Each of our programs can maybe be seen as a "hook" on the end of a puppet string, with hyperdimensional puppetmasters on the other end tugging the strings to control us. Once we see the hooks and admit their presence, we can pull them out and we are that much freer. It does not mean that the puppetmasters stop trying to control you, but their ability to do so effectively has been destroyed.

Of course, maybe I've misunderstood to some extent; these are my ideas after reading this thread. FWIW.

I think it works as an analogy. "Nobody is a nobody", and everyone is messed with by the puppetmasters - but the 4D reality and 3D reality exist at once and are linked together - 4D manipulations of our beings are mostly seen and dealt with as 3D things in 3D - meaning that what we have "down here" is mental, emotional (and also bodily) issues to work on as such - and in doing so, we are effectively dealing with the 4D manipulation. OSIT.