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Don Cesar
The Living Force
Yes, i was thinking this morning how long can people stay «calm»'jailed in their houses ??
moyal
Jedi Master
No, it was called socialism. Communism was the utopian global end-goal, that would be reached through practiced socialism.
It was called "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" or "Socialist Unity Party of Germany" etc.
That's how I learned it in school in GDR. We had "real existierenden Sozialismus". "Kommunismus" would be in the future.
Corvus
Dagobah Resident
Most would not see any light even if you put a reflector straight into their face.
At the basic level as long as their fear is stronger then their desire of movement and their bellies are full. There is no lack of fear in today s modern world as this is prime example. At more advanced level It also depends on difference from country to country, habits, civil rights till now, culture and mentality. But so many decades without some major crisys, leasuire lifestyle, ignorance and naivity, technology, programming, western people are very docile so until there is like a very, very serious crisys where their lives are put on line do not expect much resistance.
If you look from their level of course everything is good in the end, was always, is and will be because there is a balance. But from the more personal level there is a saying there is hell to pay prior to that and it has not even started and many other things.
No. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is correct.
Adding another one in the line of the above cop´s reflexions: The EU promises huge refunds to all commercial activities and medical attention area who are forced to act under the State of Alarm hoax, but people needs many years until they finally get their salary/pension increased by some miserable 20-40 Euros.
I don´t even hold my breath upon the devastating fate of the actual economic crush that´s being unfolding in such a ritualistic way right under our eyes, but many people does in my area, thinking everything will go back to normal within two weeks. Kind of 'just follow the rules and then go back to work', while simultaneously putting a brave face to what most of them, I think so, still sense could turn out to be just the beginning of unexpected precarious times. Deep inside, it´s so much saddening to me, even if I´m aware there isn´t another way to wake up in midst of the ramping worldwide crazyness.
While editing this post, I´ve just received the latest news on Coronavirus measures in Spain: they will extend the Alarm State duration that was officially set for the first time yesterday -a Sunday!- for 2 weeks. Well, in this case they only needed one day to change their narrative and claim more drastic and lasting measures.
I don´t even hold my breath upon the devastating fate of the actual economic crush that´s being unfolding in such a ritualistic way right under our eyes, but many people does in my area, thinking everything will go back to normal within two weeks. Kind of 'just follow the rules and then go back to work', while simultaneously putting a brave face to what most of them, I think so, still sense could turn out to be just the beginning of unexpected precarious times. Deep inside, it´s so much saddening to me, even if I´m aware there isn´t another way to wake up in midst of the ramping worldwide crazyness.
While editing this post, I´ve just received the latest news on Coronavirus measures in Spain: they will extend the Alarm State duration that was officially set for the first time yesterday -a Sunday!- for 2 weeks. Well, in this case they only needed one day to change their narrative and claim more drastic and lasting measures.
moyal
Jedi Master
Sorry, then english language has it wrong.
In German it's "Union der Sozialistischen Sowjetrepubliken".
A 'sowjet' is a counsel. ->Soviet (council) - Wikipedia
A 'Sowjetrepublik" = "Räterepublik" = "soviet republic" is a system of government -> Soviet republic (system of government) - Wikipedia
These systems of government practice socialism and they build a union.
It's a union of socialist council-republics, not a union of councils of socialist republics.
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syldan
Dagobah Resident
If we put it (the programming) in perspective: These points are a recent addendum;
People are literally glued to their phones. Suffice to take a subway, and you'll be the only person NOT staring at their phone.
People go outside less and less (specially in colder climates).
All information is gleamed through the lens of big data and MSM.
People have been rendered unable to make a critical hypothesis about anything.
Here in Québec, I know of very few younger people that are not imprisonned on soft-hard-drugs or medications of every description. Cannabis having been legalised theres alcohol, etc.
There has been a constant demographic change from huge influx of immigration, parts of Montreal are like Bombay, etc.
As for the confinement: it is my idea that it will cause much domestic strife, if not a rash of domestic violence.
As a majority of famillies live in a cloud of lies and deceit. Compounded with the fact that most live from one
paycheck to the next. Even the ones with big houses and fine cars.
It'a perfect cocktail mix for the STHTF....
People are literally glued to their phones. Suffice to take a subway, and you'll be the only person NOT staring at their phone.
People go outside less and less (specially in colder climates).
All information is gleamed through the lens of big data and MSM.
People have been rendered unable to make a critical hypothesis about anything.
Here in Québec, I know of very few younger people that are not imprisonned on soft-hard-drugs or medications of every description. Cannabis having been legalised theres alcohol, etc.
There has been a constant demographic change from huge influx of immigration, parts of Montreal are like Bombay, etc.
As for the confinement: it is my idea that it will cause much domestic strife, if not a rash of domestic violence.
As a majority of famillies live in a cloud of lies and deceit. Compounded with the fact that most live from one
paycheck to the next. Even the ones with big houses and fine cars.
It'a perfect cocktail mix for the STHTF....
Hi Neil. The other gratuitous insanity to add to your list of inbuilt fallacies are negative interest rates. As you point out the whole system (as much as there is any reality left in it) depends on trust regarding value and especially potential future value; time value is an absolute key to this (i.e. pricing reflects the shared belief in time related value). Negative interest rates defy this as the price is saying there is no value in the future just a cost that will be passed on to someone else in the future to pay. Collapse is inevitable under those conditions.
Just because in German it doesn't look right, it doesn't meant that in English it's not correct. The term that was adopted in English was "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" (USSR).
Soviet Union - Wikipedia
And it's the same in Russian: Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик
CCCP - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
The rules for compound adjectives differ from language to language. By convention, "Soviet" before "Socialist" is better, and doesn't mean what you are saying it does. So, English doesn't have it wrong, it's just different. A lot of the times convention wins, and eases communication. Period. It's the same for all names like that. If you had, say, "Union of Private Capitalist Entrepreneurs", that would sound better than "Union of Capitalist Private Entrepreneurs", or not, depending on what word is given more importance. What has more weight is usually placed right next to the head of the noun phrase.
There are entire rules in you are interested. Adjectives: order - English Grammar Today - Cambridge Dictionary
In this case, roughly "Soviet" could be said to refer to the place (even though it meant "council" originally), and "socialist" to the purpose. Hence the order.
Tuulikki
Dagobah Resident
We are all toddling along happily (in the West anyway) until something like this occurs and you can see what an uneven stack of sticks our world is balanced on. At times like this it is fear which controls us. Fearful of not having enough food, petrol, jobs etc. Fearful of what the future holds, health services being unable to cope and governments being in crisis. Fear is only ever a moment away in our lives. It is not a healthy and happy way to live.
moyal
Jedi Master
Ok. I don't want to argue about this.
But the point is that there is no place 'soviet' could exclusively refer to. It does not means 'russian' or 'located in Russia'.
There was also for instance a Bavarian Soviet Republik at a point in time:
Bavarian Soviet Republic - Wikipedia.
It has the place of location in the name instead of the type of governmental regime the soviets implement.
If a group like Strasser's Schwarze Front had won against Hitler, there could have been Nazi soviet republics in Germany etc.
Black Front - Wikipedia
Etymology
"Soviet" is derived from a Russian word signifying council, assembly, advice, harmony, concord,[trans 1] and all ultimately deriving from the Proto-Slavic verbal stem of *vět-iti "to inform", related to Slavic "věst" ("news"), English "wise", the root in "ad-vis-or" (which came to English through French), or the Dutch "weten" ('to know'; cf. "wetenschap" 'science').[citation needed]
The word "sovietnik" means councillor.[1]
A number of organizations in Russian history were called "council" (Russian: сове́т). For example, in Imperial Russia, the State Council, which functioned from 1810 to 1917, was referred to as a Council of Ministers after the revolt of 1905.
Soviet (council) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Of course, language is valid how most use it, but that makes it not 'correct' per se.
But you do!
I didn't say that. I was just comparing it with the usual word order.
There was also for instance a Bavarian Soviet Republik at a point in time:
Bavarian Soviet Republic - Wikipedia.
It has the place of location in the name instead of the type of governmental regime the soviets implement.
If a group like Strasser's Schwarze Front had won against Hitler, there could have been Nazi soviet republics in Germany etc.
Black Front - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Of course, language is valid how most use it, but that makes it not 'correct' per se.
Nitpicking. Why is this so important if you already know what the term has been translated as in English?
I think you meant to write: "but that does not make it 'correct' per se." Word order and slight differences in meaning.
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