The Real "Crucifixion" ?

[MichaelDavid]

I apologize in advance if this doesn't belong on this forum but I didn't know where else to really post this. Anyways I found this very interesting.
Compare what the Cassiopeans say below about Christ's "crucifixion" how he really boarded a lightship... and the picture of this attached painting done in 1350 titled "The Crucifixion."
Again, I apologize if someone has already pointed this out on these forums. I'd like to know your opinions.

Q: (L) Let’s go back to Jesus. Are the only miracles he did healing?
A: No.

Q: (L) What other kinds of miracles did he do?
A: Telekinesis.

Q: (L) Did he walk on water?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he turn water into wine?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are these all just stories?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of the stories?
A: Control.

Q: (L) Was Jesus crucified?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was somebody crucified on a cross and represented to be Jesus?
A: No.

Q: (L) There was no crucifixion, there was no resurrection after three days, is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Okay, what is the truth on that matter?
A: Left earth plane on ship after extended sleep state.

Q: (L) When did he go into this sleep state? Did he just go in one day and go to bed and go to sleep and then a ship came and picked him up?
A: Close.

Q: (L) So he appeared to his followers to have died?
A: They thought this.

Q: (L) Did he get up and say anything to anybody before he left on the ship?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he come back to life...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And then he told them things he had seen in his extended meditative sleep, is that what happened?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Okay, what happened?
A: Told prophecies then proclaimed eventual return.

Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of extended sleep?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How long was he asleep, or in this state of semi-death?
A: 98 hours.

Q: (L) And then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light.

 

[shijing]

That's very interesting, MichaelDavid, and thanks for posting it :)

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[MichaelDavid]

I apologize I pasted the text twice :/

 

[mada85]

Thanks for posting the pictures, MichaelDavid. Looking at these pictures of 'Jesus' in some kind of aerial body, I wonder if we are looking at a medieval artist's attempt to attribute a divine origin to comets or meteors. On the other hand, it could indeed be a visual representation of Jesus leaving in a lightship. If that is the case, though, why are there two 'Jesuses'?

We should not forget, though, that there have been a multitude of reports of sightings of lights in the sky with beings inside them, at all times in history. In the past, before the advent of the UFO, these were often interpreted in terms of the orthodox religion of the day. The sightings at Fatima in 1917 are a good case in point. In his book Dimensions, Jacques Vallée presents a very interesting analysis of the events at Fatima, and the children who saw the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary. He links the UFO phenomenon with visions of religious figures such as those at Fatima, the fairy faith of the Celtic countries, the trickster of the Native Americans, and so on. John Keel explores similar ground in his books.

 

[shijing]

I apologize I pasted the text twice :/

Taken care of :)

 

[Steve M.]

Hi MichaelDavid,

Here's my Opinion(s) on some of this,

Biblical - Religion: Virgins have babies and dead guys fly off into the sky. The scapegoat that is created for this is: "With God all things are possible." OK well I guess it may not be impossible since 'with God all things are.' But trying to deal in realistic terms (Human) Virgins don't have babies. There seems to be a level of Hocus-pokus we have to accept to show 'I/we have faith.'

Darwin/Evolution: At the same time I don't think my nephew or niece will be coming up out of the ocean any time soon either.

If there is a more 'realistic' explanation I think the C's/Laura have a more true ring than say a guy with a stick parting a sea. That comes from reading and I hope you don't just take my word for it.

Have you read the wave http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm or adventures with cassiopaea http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventureindex.htm ? I dug around looking for some more information in the Cassiopedia http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Main_Page but couldn't find anything on the Crucifixion or Jesus, but I do think there are some bits about biblical matters there.

"Q: (L) What is the purpose of the stories?
A: Control."

Here might be something about - "why would they say control?"
http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Matrix_Control_System

Cassiopedia wrote:

The word is used as a collective term for present day Earth reality. It contains the following features:

People do not understand they are in prison. They are made subjective, complacent, materialistic and pusillanimous.

It goes on in more detail in the link and there are many other links in/on the main page. I think there is something to the image you've posted and the quote you've made. I think they've made Christ out to be 'thee' (only) Son of God (unlike how the average person would depict the picture you posted), which blocks our own personal potential to be daughters/sons of god since, biblically speaking, as in the 'control setup,' he represents the pinnacle of mans evolution. It seems that was the intention of our controllers. So we worship a teacher, but teachers don't want to be worshiped, they want to point the way, teach what they know, get the people evolving, growing, seeking, broadening the path.. OSIT.

For me, just opinion, the most important part of Christ's teaching was "lest ye be born again, you shall not inherit the kingdom of heaven (or something like that)." I really think it means something to be born again and it is not something gained from going to church or falling in worship but something about the divine spark or earning ones way toward the possibility of having a soul. I think I'm jumbling words a little but to me it is as if being born again is something (for lack of a better word) tangible. If this is factual, and to my (often limited) understanding it is, then it takes Work, dedication, discipline and lots of suffering (emotional pain, shocks http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Shocks ) to grow toward rebirth.

Also, it takes time. There was something Ark wrote: "If you need five lives to accomplish what you WANT, let this be the first of those five. And then, without any "time obligation" or "should stressing" - start it. First step first. And ENJOY it. And LOVE yourself - take care of yourself. This is the only thing that the Universe (God?) wants from you, I think."

Of course this is only a series of opinions, based on how I understand things in the present, and they will likely change as I grow. Best of Luck to you!

 

[MichaelDavid]

Hi Endymion,

This is in response to your reply. I think that it is possible they were a medieval artists' depiction of the divine origin of meteors, however if you look closely the people in the image aren't looking at the "comets." You would think they would be if comets were passing by because people were fascinated by them. This hints to me that they are unaware of the objects that are passing above. The first object could represent a comet, but the second object with 3 "legs" coming out of it sure doesnt look like a comet. Also, people don't ride in comets.

You may not want to think of it as "2 Jesus'" in two different ships. One could be another entity and one Jesus. Or they could both be Jesus and the first ship shows him flying as he is departing and the second shows him looking back passing by.

Any thoughts?

 

[Laurentien2]

Posté par: MichaelDavid

Also, people don't ride in comets.

Unfortunately, some believed they could. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29

Those painting can confuse the unaware and be use to deceive them. Knowledge protect, ignorance endanger.

Welcome to the forum MichaelDavid!

 

[mada85]

Looking at the aerial objects, I kept wondering why one was orange and the other was blue. I thought that this was some kind of clue.

This web page informs us that these objects are representations of the sun and moon and were in common usage at that time in crucifixion paintings. The sun and moon are given human personifications as witnesses of the crucifixion. If you visit the web page I've linked you will see many examples and a discussion of this tradition.

This is a good reminder for me to do some research before posting to the forum. I had actually put together a long post this afternoon with quotes from Jacques Vallée and John Keel, finding connections to UFOs, and thinking how brilliant I was. Then I came across the page linked above and all my castles in the sand were washed away! The answer is in fact extremely simple and straightforward.

Added: This does not deny the reality of the phenomenon discussed by Vallée and Keel. However, it is, in my view, essential to know what is, or may be, a representation of a manifestation of the phenomenon, and what is part of the symbolic language employed by artists of the time.