The Union: The Business behind getting high .........

[Catalyst]

Watched this lengthy documentary ... Not presenting for discussion on legalization. It's a good example of how the system does not work ..............

_http://www.esoterictube.com/the-union-the-business-behind-getting-high.html

 

[Alana]

I watched about 15 minutes into it and it looks more like a documentary on the business behind marijuana and why it is illegal, and why the prohibition against using marijuana in the US and Canada is not working. Also debugs some of the studies that were done and supposedly showed that marijuana kills brain cells and causes lung cancer. But it does talks about how cigarette smoking is the no 1 cause of death, so not a very well research documentary in all, based on the 15 first minutes at least

 

[abstract]

watched about 15 minutes into it and it looks more like a documentary on the business behind marijuana and why it is illegal, and why the prohibition against using marijuana in the US and Canada is not working. Also debugs some of the studies that were done and supposedly showed that marijuana kills brain cells and causes lung cancer. But it does talks about how cigarette smoking is the no 1 cause of death, so not a very well research documentary in all, based on the 15 first minutes at least

I feel like the cannabis (marijuana is slang term) advocates and activists have their hearts in the right place, but are

deeply misinformed. They scream all day about legalizing pot but don't have a clue about the benefits of tobacco.

They understand that, medically speaking, cannabis could replace the vast majority of over the counter and prescription

medications. They understand the evils of big pharma, but I think they are keeping a narrow focus and not

being realistic enough. Another issue is that some of the cannabis activists are also into the mushrooms and everything

that goes with it, and once again lack the understanding about them that we obtained here on our forum. They also

lack an understanding of nutrition, made evident by the "this is all you need" attitude. It can be just as much of a trap

as anything else.

 

[Beau]

Watched this lengthy documentary ... Not presenting for discussion on legalization. It's a good example of how the system does not work ..............

_http://www.esoterictube.com/the-union-the-business-behind-getting-high.html

This is true, yet what most marijuana users are unable/unwilling to admit is the psychological affects behind using it. It stifles the emotions and does not allow for full development of one's self. Although the doc does a good job of showing the outlandish nature of marijuana prohibition, their is a limit as to how effective and worthy such an example is, especially in relation to the stated goals of this forum.

I would also agree that while the filmmakers are rather enlightened about this particular issue, their demonization of tobacco toes the government line, ironically enough. Looks like their research only goes so far as to show the drug is not physically harmful, yet avoids any deeper examination of it in relation to its affects on one's psyche, aside from disproving some easily disprovable marijuana myths.

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[Pierre]

This is true, yet what most marijuana users are unable/unwilling to admit is the psychological affects behind using it. It stifles the emotions and does not allow for full development of one's self.

Yes marijuana reinforces dramatically dissociation, pot users call it "tripping" but it's nothing more than escaping from reality to imagination realm.

Sure it can temporarily alleviate the psychological suffering, particularly amongst wounded people, but it also brings them away from the roots of theirs problems and from the solutions.

I feel like the cannabis (marijuana is slang term) advocates and activists have their hearts in the right place, but are

deeply misinformed. They scream all day about legalizing pot but don't have a clue about the benefits of tobacco.

Actually more and more users are following the mainstream trend, demonizing tobacco and advocating the use of pure marijuana as an healthier way to consume it. It sounds like paramoralism to me.

 

[Alana]

Yes marijuana reinforces dramatically dissociation, pot users call it "tripping" but it's nothing more than escaping from reality to imagination realm.

Sure it can temporarily alleviate the psychological suffering, particularly amongst wounded people, but it also brings them away from the roots of theirs problems and from the solutions.

That is actually the case. And another thing: I remember when working at a day treatment center for people with mental illnesses in NY, and the it was often the case that the the admissions of young people aged 19-23 were mostly due to experiencing a psychotic episode after their attempts to quit smoking marijuana. It seemed that whatever was underneath their self-medicating with marijuana, would come out full force after their "tripping" period was over.

 

[Gertrudes]

Yes marijuana reinforces dramatically dissociation, pot users call it "tripping" but it's nothing more than escaping from reality to imagination realm.

Sure it can temporarily alleviate the psychological suffering, particularly amongst wounded people, but it also brings them away from the roots of theirs problems and from the solutions.

That is actually the case. And another thing: I remember when working at a day treatment center for people with mental illnesses in NY, and the it was often the case that the the admissions of young people aged 19-23 were mostly due to experiencing a psychotic episode after their attempts to quit smoking marijuana. It seemed that whatever was underneath their self-medicating with marijuana, would come out full force after their "tripping" period was over.

So true. Marijuana is very effective in numbing down emotions. It does it oh, so well. The people I've met so far that regularly consumed marijuana were always very troubled. Plenty of skeletons in the closet that they often weren't even aware they had.
Your experience makes complete sense Alana. It seems to me that so much time is spent on numbing down emotions and unsorted issues that when the anesthesia is taken, they are face to face with hell.

Actually more and more users are following the mainstream trend, demonizing tobacco and advocating the use of pure marijuana as an healthier way to consume it. Roll Eyes It sounds like paramoralism to me.

I also see it that way.
I also think that for some pot consumers, it is a way to justify for themselves their acts. Many claim that marijuana has less nastiness added then tobacco. That can be true, considering that most people don't roll their own cigarettes and that so many additives are added to the pre made ones. However, when one looks at the actions behind the words, truth is, many spend a lifetime feeding on junk, sometimes binge drinking, and then claiming that marijuana is healthier then tobacco. Mmmmm...

 

[Hildegarda]

Another issue is that some of the cannabis activists are also into the mushrooms and everything
that goes with it

also, fwiw, marijuana is usually very heavily contaminated with heavy metals, herbicides, pesticides, mold, or fillers introduced by substandard manufacturing, much more so even than a commercially grown tobacco. That's an additional concern.

 

[abstract]

I also think that for some pot consumers, it is a way to justify for themselves their acts. Many claim that marijuana has less nastiness added then tobacco. That can be true, considering that most people don't roll their own cigarettes and that so many additives are added to the pre made ones. However, when one looks at the actions behind the words, truth is, many spend a lifetime feeding on junk, sometimes binge drinking, and then claiming that marijuana is healthier then tobacco. Mmmmm...

I see your point in regards to that. It's really just ignorance in general from where I stand.
See, as many of us know, the average joe potsmoker is first smoking the pot, then gets the munchies, and
in their complete ignorance of diet and health cram a bunch of junk food into themselves, creating a massive toxic
buildup. A lot of people that smoke pot only smoke pot, although there's plenty that don't really care about the pot,
they have that personality that constantly wants a high of some sort, regardless of what it is.

I agree with getting it legal for a variety of reasons, and yet I can imagine how many people out there only want it
legal just to get high, not because sick people could use it etc.

It is in fact true that there really wasn't a reason in the first place to criminalize it...hemp makes a thousand different
things, all of them useful.

But it sure won't help anything if it's legalized purely for the sake of legalizing it.