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Hi ki77ies,
If I'm not mistaken, I think you issue is with the use of the term "Christian" is Paleo-Christianity and what that term may imply. I think I can understand the confusion since you assume that there is a deity to be worshiped for instance. There isn't. You see, I come from a atheo-Judeo-Islamic background so to speak, so "Christian" doesn't have the same connotation to me as it has to someone who has been around so-called Christians and Christian organizations. Yes there is a spiritual reality and an ultimate Truth but it is quite different from the usual big dude sitting on a throne in the clouds and whatnot. I think people proposed having a look at the paleo-christianity document to see that it is quite different than a Christian organization. For instance, you will read something along the lines of "Religion is good, religions (including Christianity and Christianities) are bad". I think you re projecting what you view as Christianity to something that is beyond that, which can be understandable. If you agree with the spirit of The Wave, the approach to "life, the universe, and everything" as it appears through the sessions and the different discussions in the forum, then there is no difference with "paleo-christianity". Of course you are free to look at it further or not.
Hope it helps.
To be honest, I was getting rather concerned and thought I would need to follow my own path to see if it leads in the same direction and if not, then so be it. As I've been contemplating these things, I've also worked on meditating on an adage a friend of mine, who's also agnostic and well read on the C's and Wave material at least, to "let go and let [the universe]".
I truly appreciate this simple yet profound (to me) explanation.
Incredible responses!! I really do thank you!
I'm not sure if it is needed or wanted to quote and respond to the individuals that have pointed out various things to think/contemplate about and on, but the sense of relief that this isn't what I thought it was is enough to keep me around. It's not that I was ever going to stop doing what I perceive as The Work, since everything I understand about it "clicks" within me and I
want to do better for myself to help out others, but I was getting a little discouraged at the idea of networking. (To be honest, the idea of networking was always extremely intimidating to me as I felt inadequate in trying to be useful/helpful as I don't feel I have very good memory retention and often have to go back and re-read or revisit things I've wanted to discuss or take part of in other discussions that have been ongoing.)
Not that I remember this piece, and I thank you so much for quoting it, but it's exactly why I've kept an open mind towards the religious nature that Laura's work has gone in.... I just forgot why I had initially been interested in it.
Q: (L) Okay, what is the importance of Paleochristianity?
A: The only hope for the survival of your realm and species.
Q: (L) In what sense do you mean that?
A: Unification of aim: survival and avoidance of the destruction hanging over your heads as a consequence of the machinations of psychopathy.
Q: (L) So in other words, some of the thoughts and discussions that we've had over the past week or two {about the global situation} are pretty much on the money?
A: Yes. More or less. There has also been some nudging from this side. Time is getting "short" even though there really is no time. Remember what we said about being wise as serpents and gentle as doves.
Just one more quote that actually shows why I chose to come here w/ my dilemma, although I can not for the life of me figure out why it's this subject in particular, considering I've been more of a lurker for over a decade.
Well this is a lot of conversation around individual beliefs. We are all affected by our blind spots as to what is truth. It's easy to get caught up in specifics in any topic. For me when I get annoyed about anything I find that I need to figure out what my bias is that invokes that. The bias is generally a lack of knowledge. That takes work, and the the answers may come with more contemplation into myself and more experiences. I try not to get into the details of all the arguments as I end chasing my own tail and end up getting no where. I try to contemplate on the issue in the context that people are all a product of genetics, lifetimes, current experiences, and type of being they are that make coming up with answers to our questions most difficult. The contemplation however usually helps in moving ahead a little easier to let go of a belief that was causing a discomfort with a particular experienced reality.
Now that I have a better understanding to move forward in my reading and contemplation, I feel that it's deserving to say that it would behoove some of the people to look at their own responses and see if it's possible that the responses appeared to be directed in a certain way, which in my perception looked like it was in a monotheistic direction with little to no basics, such as these latest responses have given. A majority of "upvotes" to those responses seemed to have solidified them and if I understand correctly, the reason why the C's encouraged networking is to get a viewpoint of multiple sides in order to ascertain clarity on the subject. If there's 13 people giving "upvotes" to a particular responder but not the same giving any kind of response - not that I could actually respond or perhaps even deal with that much - then I truly wonder if the bias and/or propensity is already of a christian faith/denomination and if what they see AND respond to has that kind of base and preposition/predisposition.
I think in Amazing Grace there was a lot that Laura pondered on as she weighed her own upbringing in religion with what she was seeing, learning and experiencing and the end result was that they didn't mesh. Within that and the Adventures and maybe the first Wave book - I don't remember - is when the teachings of Jesus were being brought up and a gradual understanding of this person being a regular human (not a deity to be worshipped) that had a LOT to share with the world and those teachings were distorted many times along the way to fit the narrative of the religion. This of course, piqued my interest into more biblical people but the gaps in that research compounded w/ my own life gaps led me to where I am at this point.
The basics are still the same. There's much to learn from older truths but one of the main questions still remains - how do you know what you interpret as what they said or taught is what they meant to say? I think the latter portion is the most significant in why the C's emphasize "networking" b/c it seems to take a myriad of different observations to determine one spec of truth, and that isn't confined to those who have read and/or already have a propensity to Adventures/Wave/C's/Ra material.
I am most grateful for the insights that have been shared. I hope you receive the "likes" or "reaction responses" on this site that you deserve. Hopefully, confirmation bias isn't as sought after on a forum seeking the truth.
