There is no time in any frame of reference.

[MusicMan]

Omega said:
in Re: There is no time in any frame of reference.
:As for the time travel, I think in Laura's work we can find explanations. There
was a part in the wave series (volume 1 ?) talking about multiple realities and
universe. I the car accident example given by RS, I think even if someone would
go back in time to prevent the accident, the original situation would still
exist in another reality, the person changing the past having simply created
another parallele branch of that reality and thus all realities continue onword
with their journey. Thus, one continues with the persone having learned the
lesson, in the other, the lesson is not learned.

What do you think ? Makes sense ?"


While thought = Consciousness, maybe it is possible to UNTHINK the Titanic.
I thought your argument needed to be noted as containing very deep concepts, as if time is like walking through a door into another reality, a reality in which the lesson has been learned.

 

[MusicMan]

Buddy said,
in Re: There is no time in any frame of reference.

"Concerning this illusion of 'time', I would say we were given a 'double whammy'
because there is 'cyclic time' and a sense of 'linear time' overlaid on that. If
you could succeed in seeing through the linear time illusion, you still have the
cyclic time sense that you recognized. A common denominator would be 'sequence'
of our perceptions, I suspect, and our assumption that 'things' happen in a
single direction, or unchanging sequence.

Cyclic time is useful for self-remembering and not nearly so limiting as linear
time, OSIT. Anyone who learns to self-remember will probably confirm this
because seeing and remembering the logical/natural chains of percepts you've
experienced and continue to experience in some kind of order first, can then be
automatically put into a context within all the cycles you have experienced and
continue to experience in their relationships to each other. This is the way
that your awareness can become structured enough to experience all of yourself,
and the Universe around you, simultaneously, and how you can improve your
ability to remember almost everything you've ever learned. At least in this
lifetime. Compared to an eternity, that shouldn't be too hard to accomplish,
OSIT. :)"

In my opinion, think Frequency Resonance Vibration..
Look at the spiral - edge-on it is a wave, and end-on it is a circle.
Special cases of the same thing.
Extrapolate the spiral to a vortex. Another special case.
Now imagine the spiral at an instantaneous point in time. It is a dot.
Another special case, which is also a special case of a circle.
Which circle in turn is a special case of a sphere, and this sphere in turn is a
special case of of a toroid..
I'm thinking this toroid might also be a special case of a spiral.

The argument may be cyclic, or it may be a fractal strange attractor.
Or an illusion..