Time - and what is 'now'?

Well I've been pondering over exactly what is the moment of 'now' which we are always perpetually experiencing?
How can it be that 'now' is 12:09 GMT (or the geographical equivalent, for me as I type this) for everyone alive on earth simultaneously?
Why doesn't everyone experience a different 'now'?

Is 'now' dictated by the movement of the earth - if the earth reversed would time reverse?
Time is an odd concept, and we know that it's a construct put in place purely for 3D learning opportunities. 'Now' seems to be a focus point of time, a nexus point, between past & future. It's also impossible to pin down, because each point in time instantly becomes the past, and is out of our grasp.

It just seems strange that all of us reading this are experiencing exactly the same 'Now'?
All 7 billion people on the planet are experiencing the exact same 'now' point?

I was wondering what would happen to everyone else if you managed to change your 'Now' point to a second before anyone else - would you cease to exist to them? Would there be a whole duplicate population living in that 'Now' which is a second in front of everyone else?

Is there an infinite number of 'Me's', each one living in a different 'Now' point? Are they all conscious, or are they just playing out like a movie show?
And are all my future 'now' points already in place, just waiting for their moment to come around, albeit ever so briefly?

Is the 'me' in this 'now' point the only one that is consciously aware?
Am I the peak of all past & future 'nows'?

Strange stuff this earth life eh.
 
electrosonic said:
I was wondering what would happen to everyone else if you managed to change your 'Now' point to a second before anyone else - would you cease to exist to them? Would there be a whole duplicate population living in that 'Now' which is a second in front of everyone else?
Given that linear time is said to be an illusion, that would make it impossible for anyone's now point to be a second before, because seconds don't exist. The way I see it is everything happens all at once at the same moment which also lasts for all infinity. Kind of a mind bender but also uber cool.
 
It boggles my mind. The only way I can attempt to conceptualise these types of things is by using the C's analogy:

Q: (SV) But, if there is no time? (L) It is all happening simultaneously. We are having all of these lifetimes at once. (SV) Is there a way that we can connect ourselves with all our other selves?
A: Picture it this way: we will access some of your memory banks and give you another reference… you know what a slide projector looks like? To give you some feeling of what this expanded nature of reality really is, picture yourself watching a big slide presentation with a big slide wheel on the projector. At any given point along the way you are watching one particular slide. But, all the rest of the slides are present on the wheel, are they not? And, of course, this fits in with the perpendicular reality, which fits in with the circles within circles and cycles within cycles, which also fits in the Grand Cycle, which also fits in with what we have told you before: All there is is lessons. That’s all there is and we ask that you enjoy them as you are watching the slide presentation… and, if you look back at the center of the projector, you see the origin and essence of all creation itself, which, is level seven where you are in union with the One.

But that's about as far as it gets for now :lol:
 
lainey said:
electrosonic said:
I was wondering what would happen to everyone else if you managed to change your 'Now' point to a second before anyone else - would you cease to exist to them? Would there be a whole duplicate population living in that 'Now' which is a second in front of everyone else?
Given that linear time is said to be an illusion, that would make it impossible for anyone's now point to be a second before, because seconds don't exist. The way I see it is everything happens all at once at the same moment which also lasts for all infinity. Kind of a mind bender but also uber cool.

What you're saying is true lainey, but only from the perspective of a higher density. If we were sitting in a tree in 6th D looking down on earth, that's exactly how we'd view it.
Unfortunately, we're not on a level of Density that allows us to experience time in any other manner than the way we do now. We've chosen to except the General Law of this 3D existence, and one of those laws is 'time'.

So for us, everything happens sequentially, second by second by second.
 
electrosonic said:
lainey said:
electrosonic said:
I was wondering what would happen to everyone else if you managed to change your 'Now' point to a second before anyone else - would you cease to exist to them? Would there be a whole duplicate population living in that 'Now' which is a second in front of everyone else?
Given that linear time is said to be an illusion, that would make it impossible for anyone's now point to be a second before, because seconds don't exist. The way I see it is everything happens all at once at the same moment which also lasts for all infinity. Kind of a mind bender but also uber cool.

What you're saying is true lainey, but only from the perspective of a higher density. If we were sitting in a tree in 6th D looking down on earth, that's exactly how we'd view it.
Unfortunately, we're not on a level of Density that allows us to experience time in any other manner than the way we do now. We've chosen to except the General Law of this 3D existence, and one of those laws is 'time'.

So for us, everything happens sequentially, second by second by second.


I agree that time is linear here, one you see outside this reality, time does not exist, at least not in a linear fashion. Being multidimensional beings, maybe everything is alive at the same time, for example when you have a power point presentation, using a projector, you visualize all slides, could be equal existence?
Perhaps also be time to start thinking from the perspective of a higher density? and not just use the reason of our 3D reality?
 
hi, I do not think the "time" as we normally perceive (is a way of measuring for, apart from other things, control people) is a fact.
I personally believe that all that matters are the lessons and experiences that marked us at some point in our lives, accumulations of lessons (learned or not). a good example is:
what are you doing the day that happened the attack of 9/11?
what you doing the previous day?
probably remember things based on an experience that, somehow, I influence and created a "mark" ourselves.
 
electrosonic said:
Well I've been pondering over exactly what is the moment of 'now' which we are always perpetually experiencing?

[...]

It just seems strange that all of us reading this are experiencing exactly the same 'Now'?
All 7 billion people on the planet are experiencing the exact same 'now' point?

How do we know that we are all experiencing the same 'now'?

Is it possible that this is a faulty assumption?

If all we can experience and react to is a single point in 'time', then if a person you are talking to is focused on and living in a 'now' ten minutes in the future from your perspective, how would you be able to tell? Would it make any discernible difference from either of your perspectives?
 
I guess we are never truly experiencing "now". Such words as "second", "moment", "gap" etc. is already a reference to the idea of time. So it could be everything but not "now".

***
Imagine yourself going for a walk.
You've just passed by a person who is in the rush.
You don't know anything about him/her.
He/she doesn't know anything about you.
This person has a relative somewhere abroad.
This relative is going for a walk near his apartments.
And he/she passing by the person who looks exactly like you.
He/she is passing by other you: a person from different timeline.

Sound wacky enough nevertheless IMO it is quite possible. I mean - why not?:)
 
Thaigrr said:
It was said once that there is no time, only memory of moments.

That's a great saying, i like it.

Everything could be just memories. Did we even live yesterday, or last week? I remember it, but maybe those memories were put there? After all, I've had many a dream where I recalled past events vividly in the dream, only to wake up and realise they were just part of the dream too.
 
Time as we perceive it does not exist. This is a statement that for some reason I can effortlessly accept. However, the question remains. OK, then what is it? The closest I have come to a vague understanding that for some reason serves me, is the word 'location'.

For some time now I have been caring for my Mom who has Alzheimer's disease. 99% of the . . . time :), she lives in the 'now'. For my Mom, there is only now and then now and more now and so forth. She has lost her ability to perceive . . . time as we do due to her condition. In order to survive the care I provide, I have been very slowly teaching myself to 'be' in the 'now'. It makes the experience less difficult and less painful for both of us.

This brings me back to the whole idea of 'location'. I am here. I am also . . . there. I am also over there. Location thinking helps me to somewhat let go of the linear perception and assists me in considering a location perception.

No answers. Many questions.
 
Woodsman said:
electrosonic said:
Well I've been pondering over exactly what is the moment of 'now' which we are always

perpetually experiencing?

[...]

It just seems strange that all of us reading this are experiencing exactly the same 'Now'?
All 7 billion people on the planet are experiencing the exact same 'now' point?

How do we know that we are all experiencing the same 'now'?

Is it possible that this is a faulty assumption?

If all we can experience and react to is a single point in 'time', then if a person you are talking to is focused on and living in a 'now' ten minutes in the future from your perspective, how would you be able to tell? Would it make any discernible difference from either of your perspectives?

To expand upon this thought...

Assuming:

A human 3rd Density lifetime is like a long piece of string, and our awareness moves along that string from birth to death, experiencing each moment sequentially and thus creating a sense of time passing.

And assuming:

3rd Density beings and our choices are so very mechanical and predictable to the point where we literally only choose once at each choice juncture along the string, thus our lives from an outside perspective appear to be mostly static. A large population of 3D beings might appear like a web of mostly non-changing strings criss-crossing each other, but (maybe?) not really changing each other a whole lot or causing much apparent flux, in the way a field of corn would appear to remain fairly static. -(This would allow us to all be experiencing our personal 'nows' at different points without it making a big difference to any outcomes. I could be a day behind others, but all the choices would still be the same for the future people and for me, so our 'nows' would not need to be in sync.)

And assuming:

A 4th Density being can jump up and down their life-string to experience any point at will.

Implying:

A 4th Density being can make new and different choices at any point along the string.

Further implying:

A 4th Density being's life-string would not be static, but would change shape depending upon the choices made. -To look at a 3rd Density Being and a 4th Density being, the first would appear static, solid, while a 4th Density being would appear fuzzy. (The C's once said that Jupiter and Saturn, with their swirling gas clouds, were 4th Density planets. Is that what matter looks like when it is in a state of constant flux?)

I was trying to understand why 4th Density STS has such a hard time appearing in 3rd Density reality. One approach I took was to think of how a 3D Human might appear to a 2D Tree or a stalk of wheat. -Perhaps if the human chose to stand motionless beside the tree for years, the tree might be able to perceive the hard physicality of the human (from its limited abilities to perceive) in a way which might be similar to a 3D perception of a 4D being.

Anyway...

Wondering about what we might experience if a 4D being went back and altered our past, inserted an event or information, what might happen to our 3D life-strings. That is, if the past were to change, would it domino and instantly change our present and what might that be like?

I remembered reading a quote from the transcripts about Deja Vu being an artifact of this process. I dug for the relevant session, and found it. Reading through it both illuminates and adds a lot of extra information which shakes what I thought I was beginning to understand...

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25709.msg305899.html#msg305899

Q: (L) Well, that is certainly true, considering the stuff that is coming back to me about the "Wave." But, all my internet postings are dated, so it would be fairly easy to track. We have some questions here: Physicists talk about multi-dimensional universes. The idea is that our 3 dimensional space and 1 dimensional time is an illusion of plane beings, while the true universe has more dimensions perpendicular to the above ones. Physicists have different guesses here: 5, 6, 7, 11, 256. How many dimensions does the true universe have?

A: Not correct concept. Should be: How many universes does the "true" dimension have?

Q: (L) Alright, then. I think that from a previous session we were told that the number of universes was not countable. Is that correct?

A: Infinite, maybe, but more to the point: variable and selective.

Q: (L) Is it that there can be more at one time and less at another?

A: No.

Q: (L) Does this mean that any potential universe can be selected at any time to be the ONE that is cued? (T) No, the "jukebox" idea relates to time. Explain variable and selective, please?

A: For those who know how, universes can be created at will in order to transmodify reality merge.

Q: (L) What is a reality merge?

A: What does it sound like?

Q: (T) Merging of realities from one universe into another? A creating of a new reality which is then merged with the old to create a new universe. (L) Maybe it means the realities of different people merge to create a sort of "mutual universe?" Like the idea "you create your own reality?"

A: Terry is closer, Laura is playing "left field."

Q: (L) The next question: The Cs, Andromedans and others talk about 'densities.' We are supposed to live in 3rd density. Does this number 3 have anything to do with 3 space dimensions?

A: Close. Means: Original definition closer to 3rd level of experience, relating material/ethereal spectrum, but denizens of Terra Locator came up with "Third Dimensional" explanation due to influences upon the subconscious mind from soul memory connection to Akashic record.

Q: (L) J talks about dimensions, densities and states. What about states? (T) Yeah, there's Georgia and Arkansas... no, that's not really a state...

A: You forgot poor little Rhode Island! Tsk tsk! Mirth!

Q: (L) Okay, does "state" refer to some state of being that entities can exist in?

A: On this, consult psychological text books for more information, if you are so inclined as this is the only area where this term applies.

[...]

Q: (L) Okay, do densities differ by entropy?

A: No, but maybe by "atrophy."

[...]

Q: (L) When you say the two states or planes, you are saying the physical state and the state of consciousness...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And you can't have one without the other. And the state of consciousness and the state of material existence are so completely connected, that both are infinite? One cannot exist without the other...

A: Yes, connected, intertwined, bonded... Merged.

Q: (T) A structure of the universe that holds the levels together... everything is connected. The consciousness of 6th density is perfectly bonded and balanced with 3rd density, and the quasi physical level of 4th density, and the totally physical levels 3 through 1, and the total ONE of 7th, and whatever 5th is. (L) We have four levels of physical expression, so to speak, going from the really solid, minimal consciousness level 1 to....

A: Yes, but the Terran scientists have been programmed to believe that nothing can exist unless it can be measured, estimated, calculated and represented in some way in the physical material plane. Not true!!!!!!! For example: We are in NO WAY physical.


Q: (L) Well, I also want to know why you refer to a technological device that supposedly transports someone from one density to another, as a 'Trans Dimensional Remolecularizer?'

A: In order to reconstruct 3rd density into 4th density physical, other dimensions must be utilized in the process. Remember, we are talking about exact duplicates which are merged.

Q: (L) But, a little while ago you said there was a single dimension and many universes, and now you are saying utilizing another dimension, so the terminology is getting to be a little bit confusing... (T) It is like a program loading onto a computer. Some programs just load straight in. Others need to create a space on the hard drive to put files that they need to LOAD the program, but are not PART of the program, and when it is finished loading, it erases all the "loading instructions." The hard drive is still the hard drive, but for a time, the program used a sector of the hard drive, and created a temporary dimension, let's say. (L) Is this what we are looking at here?

A: Close. And remember, we said "true" dimension!

Q: (L) So, it is like one hard drive, many programs, loading instructions for new programs that are then erased, etc. If there is one "true dimension," and infinite universes within it, does one particular universe exist, of and by itself, at any given time, until it is merged into a new one, or is there within this one true dimension, multiple universes as real as ours is, to which we could go, and could be there alongside ours, so to speak?

A: Yes to the latter.

Q: (L) And, can infinite numbers of "dimensions" exist within each level of density, even if temporary?

A: Yes. If you want to go back and change "history," either for individuals or for universal perception, you must first create an alternate universe to do it. Your 4th density STS "friends" have been doing this a lot.

Q: (L) If you, being a general term, create an alternate universe, does the former one continue to exist, or does the former one merge into the new one?

A: Both.

Q: (L) If the former one continues to exist, does it exist and evolve on its own, disassociated with the second one, or this offshoot?

A: Clarify.

Q: (T) The universe you are in: you are going along and say, "I think I will create a new Universe." You do it, and move to it, and you bring your universe with you. That is the merging of realities. But, when you move to the new universe, you are no longer in the original one which continues along on its own. The pattern of the old universe, you bring into the new one, and when you become part of the new universe you have just created, you are no longer part of the old one you just left. It just goes along with everybody else there. (L) Is this correct?

A: Sort of... remember, one can create all ranges of types of alternate possibilities.

Q: (L) So you could create a new universe with a new "past," even?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in that way, both actually occur and you can change the whole thing?

A: When merged, the former never existed.

Q: (T) Not for the person creating the new universe, but the former will continue for everybody else.

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, for the person creating a new universe, the former never existed, but the other beings who are satisfied with that old universe, and "go" with it, are still continuing along as though...

A: Your 3rd density mind restrictions limit the scope of your comprehension in this area.

Q: (L) If you decide you don't like your present universe, and you work like crazy to learn how to create a new one, and you do it, do you, essentially, forget that you did this? And why you did this? And forget the other universe?

A: If you wish.

Q: (L) So you can or you can't... (T) Going by what you just said: "an unhappy universe," is that because your perceiving the universe you are in as being unhappy because that is the way you are and where you are at, in terms of learning, and by creating a new universe, you are simply wishing to change the way the universe is around you, and really its not the universe that has a problem, but you...

A: Off track.

Q: (L) So, the universe you are in, is what it is, and you are in it for some reason... (T) You're in it to learn lessons... just to change the universe because you don't want to learn the lessons you've chosen to learn... (L) Or, you have learned them and thereby CAN change the universe... (T) When you learn, you just move on automatically, you don't have to change the universe. The universe will change for you.

A: Deja vu comes to you compliments of 4th density STS.

Q: (L) Is deja vu a result of some sensation of the universe having changed?

A: Or... some sensation of reality bridging.

Q: (T) As you move into the new one, you have leftovers?

A: No.

Q: (L) What is reality bridging?

A: What does it sound like?

Q: (L) Is it somewhat like merging universes? (T) A bridge is something you put between two things...

A: You wish to limit, wait till 4th density, when the word will be obsolete!

Q: (L) That still doesn't help me to understand deja vu as a "sensation of reality bridging." Is deja vu because something comes into our reality from another?

A: One possibility..

Q: (T) Didn't we talk about this? That it is a bleedthrough from other dimensions... that when we think we have been someplace before, it is because in another dimension we have...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) If you are now in a particular universe that has been created and merged by 4th density STS, and there is still the old universe existing, and you feel a connection, or a bridging, because some alternate self is in that alternate universe, living through some experience... or a similar thing?

A: No limits of possibilities.

Q: (L) So it can be any and all of those things, and bridging realities of "past" and "future," as well. Is it possible to change the past within a discrete universe, or does every change imply a new or alternate universe?

A: Discrete does not get it.

Q: (L) Well, within a particular, selected one of the universes, can you go back in time, within that universe, change the past, and have it change everything forward, still within that selected universe, like a domino effect?

A: In such a case, yes.

Q: (L) But, you said that if you want to change the past, you have to create an alternate universe... (T) No, you asked about changing the past, and they said you have to create a temporary place to work from, a position from which you can manipulate the reality...

A: That is for specialized activities.

Q: (L) So that creating of an alternate universe was for special things, and not for a general historic change?

A: What was described is not the same as an "alternate universe."

Q: (L) It is a temporary file that will go away when you are finished loading the program. And that is not creating an alternate universe, but rather a temporary dimension...

A: Close.

Q: (L) In our particular universe, what is the primary mode? Are we constantly shifting and merging universe to universe, or is our past being changed and reacting like the domino effect... at least in the past few years... (T) But, we wouldn't know if the past has been changed because we wouldn't see it...

A: Measurements are inadequate.

Q: (L) How does that relate to my question? Which is happening? Is our singular universe being changed as in a domino effect, or is it continuously being merged with a new one and another and another... (T) What you are asking for is a measurement. (L) Is it that any and all possibilities and will and do take place?

A: Closer.

Q: (L) Can you clarify that any further for me?

A: No, because you would simply not grasp it.

Q: (T) It is part of the infrastructure of the universe which we are in no way capable of understanding at this point. We can't even get quarks right.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the words "universe" and "dimension" synonymous?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) In what sense yes?

A: For you, these are "grey" areas, and no matter how hard you try, until your perception shifts fundamentally, you ain't gonna get it!

Q: (J) I guess it is a question of faith. (L) Are all universes "Free Will" universes?

A: If chosen.

Q: (L) Are there universes where everything is predestined?

A: Within the framework of a cyclical separation bond.

Q: (L) What is a "cyclical separation bond?" I think I'm getting in over my head...

A: Only because "you ARE in over your heads."

Q: (L) But you didn't tell me what a cyclical separation bond is!

A: And if we do, you will ask: "What do you mean by that?"

Q: (L) Well, you are right about that. (J) It's like a little kid asking: "Daddy, why is there air?" (L) Are there universes where time goes in the other direction, as in universes of anti-matter?

A: Why do you ask this?

Q: (T) They have been telling us all along that there is no such thing as time except as we perceive it. (L) Well, I guess I just meant "anti-matter" universe. Okay, there are 4 physical densities...

A: No, three.

Q: (L) Okay, there are 3 physical densities, and the 4th is...

A: One is variable. Three Ethereal.

Q: (L) Okay, three that are physical, three ethereal, and one in between that is both.

A: Close.

Q: (L) Do you go from 4th to 5th repeatedly until you are ready to go to 6th, or do you go to 6th from 4th, or to 6th from 5th?

A: Because of already given data, that is elementary my dear, Martin, elementary!

Q: (L) I am NOT Martin anymore! So there!

A: You are in an alternate reality.

Q: (L) Oh, God! I don't even want to THINK about that! That's horrible! Does this mean that when you gave me the word "NEW," you perhaps meant a new universe? A new reality? (T) Well, you are because you have changed. But we're not.

A: Why does Njorrg always get the tough assignments?!?

Q: (T) Because you are lucky!

A: Mirth iz goot!

Q: (L) Stop laughing guys... is the entire universal system, everything combined, similar to a dissipative structure, or is any part of it similar to this?

A: No.

Q: (L) Okay, in a general sense, and I know you are pulling out your hair with me, if you had hair to pull, is there something that you can tell us about what it is, other than awareness, that determines your density level, like a transition point, like a flower breaking open, or something erupting through a membrane, or is it something that occurs more gradually? All of a sudden you hit a point of awareness and "POP," there you are?!

A: Too much.

Q: (L) Is awareness the only thing that determines what density one exists in?

A: No.

Q: (L) What else? (T) The way you make Christmas cookies...

A: Awareness is the bond that unites the reality.

Q: (L) You have said that the heat I feel is a "growing of fibers" or a "bleedthrough" of the new reality, is that an effect that is happening in a gradual way? (T) It has to do with the approach of the wave... (L) I don't quite know how to ask this...

A: Because you do not quite know how to understand the answers.

Q: (L) You have said that gravity is the binder of all reality.

A: Yes.

Q: And now you talk about perception bonding.

A: Yes. Now, try to picture how gravity is the binder of all reality!!!

Q: (L) If gravity is the binder, is gravity consciousness?

A: Not exactly. Did you know that there is no "right" or "left" in 4th density through 7th density? If you can picture this exactly, then you may be able to understand the responses to all the questions you are asking. If not, best "give it a rest." Because it will only be productive learning when you ponder and reflect/review "later."

Q: (A) The C's told Ruggero that our equations, that is physicists, are only one seventh of the total. How should I interpret it? Literally? That each of our equations should get an index, 1 thru 7, and be modified appropriately?

A: One possibility. Ruggero was limiting to realm already partly charted. Time to say Good Night. You are fatigued.

End of Session.

This session was from 1997, and the C's said Laura and crew were not able to understand the answers and wouldn't until later. I wonder if this is 'later' enough, or if we have to wait until we grow new brain structures..?
 
I am struggling with this question, what is " now" ? . As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as now, is like aiming for an ever moving target. "Now" would be between the past and the future, just after one and before the other but I don't see that specific distinction, I see more like a continuous merging of one (future or past ) into the other depending on what direction we look .

Like a fast flowing river, always changing, never at rest. I think we don't really perceive the " true " time, what we see as past, present and future is limited by our perception or awareness, we can only experience time in a sequential form. Probably as limited as we perceive light where we only see a narrow band.

However, sometimes, a single moment in " time " seems like an eternity, what changes then? is " time" still " flowing " or is the " flow of time " a result of the observer's " state of mind"?

Like I said, I am struggling with this.
 
Woodsman said:
I was trying to understand why 4th Density STS has such a hard time appearing in 3rd Density reality. One approach I took was to think of how a 3D Human might appear to a 2D Tree or a stalk of wheat. -Perhaps if the human chose to stand motionless beside the tree for years, the tree might be able to perceive the hard physicality of the human (from its limited abilities to perceive) in a way which might be similar to a 3D perception of a 4D being.

That's a fantastic thought - its sending me off towards an entirely different question now i.e How does each density differ in its view of the density above & below it.
Imagine if that was the case - that in order to be recognised by plants on 2D you'd need to act '2D-ish' ...
 
electrosonic said:
Woodsman said:
I was trying to understand why 4th Density STS has such a hard time appearing in 3rd Density reality. One approach I took was to think of how a 3D Human might appear to a 2D Tree or a stalk of wheat. -Perhaps if the human chose to stand motionless beside the tree for years, the tree might be able to perceive the hard physicality of the human (from its limited abilities to perceive) in a way which might be similar to a 3D perception of a 4D being.

That's a fantastic thought - its sending me off towards an entirely different question now i.e How does each density differ in its view of the density above & below it.
Imagine if that was the case - that in order to be recognised by plants on 2D you'd need to act '2D-ish' ...

I often return to that idea of "looking down to understand up" when trying to build a better conception of how all this works. Logically extending on the "As Above, So Below" idea. -I'm sure it isn't terribly accurate, but as our tools are so limited, it seems like a better scrap than nothing.

-Also, I knew one of those kung-fu/energy type guys some years ago. He claimed to be able to see energy and ethereal beings and such. I knew him for long enough to run a bunch of little experiments over the course of our time together to consider him reasonably bullshit-free, at least wrt to what he said he could perceive. Anyway, he commented that sometimes what we perceive as "wind" is actually the activity of energetic beings. This came with a sort of demonstration which I found useful; "Feel that constant force of air blowing against us now? That's wind. See those swirls moving one tree top but not the others? That's not wind."

I boiled that one down to asking myself, "If I were to run my hands through a bunch of living leaves on a tree, how would that tree know the difference between my touching it and a gust of wind?"

Seemed like a useful thought experiment to build on.

I also think of this; while trees and plants are well within our ability to manipulate and farm, etc., they do hold certain qualities which we, at 3D respect. Trees are rugged in ways which we are not; they can survive winters and high winds and rains as a matter of course, where we 3D mammals are quickly driven indoors.

Their basic existence gives them the power to stand in one spot easily, and by virtue of this, exist interference-free for nearly all of their lives. There is a huge tree in front of my house, but I barely notice it as I go on about my life. I might have physically interacted with it maybe two or three times in the past few years. And even then, only walked up to give it a pat with my hand. To extend that.., even though we at 3rd Density are forever at the mercy of the whims of our STS 4D 'friends' above us, perhaps most of our lives are simply too boring and constant to bother with most of the time; and they'll only trim us back if we start messing with the gutters and power lines.

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-Though, I suspect it's more accurate to think of humanity as a highly controlled mono-crop, like a field of genetically modified, sprayed corn with the expectation of being harvested at some point when the field reaches maturity.
 

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