Timing of Catastrophe - what might it be?

[mocachapeau]

Hi everybody,

I was just thinking about when one might expect some kind of catastrophe in the coming year. Not obsessing about it, just considering the possibilities based on what kind of human activities, and their energies, might just "bring it on". This is what I came up with as one possibility.

If this winter doesn't simply continue on into an ice age and actually comes to an end, we will have the World Cup of soccer this summer. I was thinking about the Noah story, and how the masses were all out partying and making merry at the time of the flood. I'm not sure, but I think that the World Cup is probably the largest merry-making distraction in the world, and more people are sucked into that event than any other.

Considering the nature of that event, coupled with my theory on sports being fixed, the amount of money involved, etc, I consider this event to be possibly one of the biggest, most corrupt mass-manipulations by the PTB on the planet. No other event makes people here in Montreal drive around the city waving flags and honking horns in a patriotic fervour at any time of day or night. So many people are so wrapped up in it.

What kind of energy does a staged event like that produce with so many being taken in by it? And look at the divisiveness that it creates between peaceful people all living in the same neighbourhood, but with different cultural origins, who normally get along.

What effect could such an energy have on the cosmos?

I'm sure there must be other examples of this kind of thing.

Any thoughts?

 

[Palinurus]

Hi mocachapeau,

You're probably well aware of the fact that these World Championships take place every four years.

If the past is something to go by, I cannot see why this time there would be any influence coming from this event leading to some sort of a major disaster now.

This type of event is a diversion into a delusional state of mind (wrong priorities) and can only disperse and dilute energy, not focus it on anything real.

You may want to do a search forum wide for olympics or something alike, as there have been several discussions in the past on similar themes.

Like this one for instance.

My two cents, fwiw. Hope this helps a bit. :)

 

[3DStudent]

Well, we don't know for sure. But we can assume that it will be "soon". The C's said sometime around summer 2014 is year 0. But things could certainly get worse before then. It seems an economic collapse is in the works.

I like you, keep counting the winters thankful I'm not buried under ice. But I'm not too far north in mideastern US. Have you checked out this thread on the dead sea animals off the western coast?. I don't know if it will be any one thing, but then you think some straw is bound to break the camel's back.

 

[Eboard10]

Well, we don't know for sure. But we can assume that it will be "soon". The C's said sometime around summer 2014 is year 0. But things could certainly get worse before then. It seems an economic collapse is in the works.

I like you, keep counting the winters thankful I'm not buried under ice. But I'm not too far north in mideastern US. Have you checked out this thread on the dead sea animals off the western coast?. I don't know if it will be any one thing, but then you think some straw is bound to break the camel's back.

3D Student, the Cs reference to "year 0" was discussed here:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31658 (Save the date ?)
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28590 (Difference between The Wave and "0 New Year"??)

After many failed attempts at anticipating future catastrophes, including economic collapse, terrorist attacks and natural disasters, I have honestly given up in trying to guess the time for such events to occur. I found it to be a big waste of my time and energy.

Session Date: June 20th 2009
A: 5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Poinonia
Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea
Q: (L) Is there any particular reason you made the announcement about 5 years to go?
A: Just reminding you.
Q: (L) You normally have never been date‐specific.
A: This is not "day" specific but close enough for horseshoes.
Q: (Joe) A lot of the New Agers are gonna be disappointed in 2012.
A: 2012 is a distraction. We have repeatedly talked about the open nature of the future. It is always
open until the probabilities begin to collapse, such as now. But macro‐collapses take some "time".
Q: (L) So you're saying that there is a macro‐collapse that has already begun?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is that possible? (Ark) Umm, well, yes.
A: Wait and see!

Session Date: November 28th 2009
A: These factors should be kept in mind by all the new PC members. You are all on the threshold of a
new life. Anticipate not what the universe can and will do, just do the work asked of you and the
wave will come to meet you and lift you up.
Q: (L to Ark) So it's kind of like what you said once: The wave is waiting for us in time?
(Ark) But if like a billion people start to anticipate the wave coming, it may stop!
(L) Or anticipate how it will come, or what it will do.
(A***) And lots of people won't be able to control themselves from doing that.
(L) So it's best to pay attention to reality and deal with reality that is here and now in a most
effective and efficient way and let the universe take care of itself. As long as you are doing your
part...
A: Yes

 

[mocachapeau]

I read the discussion on the 2006 World Cup suggested by Palinurus, but I found that it focused more on the idea of a possible terrorist attack on the event. That's not really what I am thinking about. I am more interested in the subject of energies produced by human behaviour, the effects they have on the cosmos, and that the effect is greater depending on the number of humans producing it at one single time.

Firstly, I agree with Eboard10's point that trying to anticipate these things is quite pointless, and I think we have learned that anticipation in general is bad anyway because it restricts the flow. So I don't want to look at this as a prediction per se. But I still find the comparison to the Noah story very interesting vis a vis the masses in a state of merry-making at the time of the flood. Of course, merry-making implies not paying attention to what's going on around you in the world, or the universe, and that pretty much describes the state of humanity in general, all the time. But I still believe that no other event on earth gets more people distracted, at one time, in one single manner, than the Wold Cup.

Palinurus, you point out that the Cup takes place every four years therefore there may not be any reason to think that THIS time it will have a different effect. Well, I think you are right. I don't think it will have a different effect. I think it will have the exact same effect it has each time.

According to the C's, human activities, and the energies they produce, have an effect on events in the cosmos. For example, they can have either an accelerating or decelerating effect on the approach of the Wave. What is different this time, as opposed to the past Cups, is that the C's have pointed at the summer of 2014 as being roughly the time for year zero. Four years ago, the same effect would have been achieved by the same mass production of energy, but whatever it was affecting was farther away at that time, with many different factors involved. That doesn't mean it didn't have an effect that may have grossly changed the calculations made on the estimate of its arrival time.

So how do they arrive at such an estimate? They factor in many, many probabilities. And the more probabilities that become certainties due to choices having been made along the way, the more precise they can get with their estimate (but it always remains an estimate). I would think that single, particularly large emanations of certain energies would be factors that have more of an effect of attraction, or repulsion, than smaller emanations.

Obviously, there are many different energies emanating from the earth at all times, many of which would be opposing each other in their effect. Some combinations would cancel each other out, others may result in a small push one way or the other. But when one energy is produced by a particularly large contingent of humanity, all at once, we could safely assume that it would overwhelm most small amounts of opposing energy due to its magnitude. At that moment, it could be THE dominant energy being produced by humanity.

So the question remains, what kind of energy is produced by humanity's mass distraction by the World Cup. If - IF - one could describe the World Cup as being a lie, in some shape or form, and that humanity's all-given attention to it could be described as BELIEVING that lie, what would that say about the energy produced from it?

This type of event is a diversion into a delusional state of mind (wrong priorities) and can only disperse and dilute energy, not focus it on anything real.

That makes sense to me. And maybe you have described accurately what makes it such a negative event. "Not focus it on anything real" sounds a lot like believing a lie, i.e. focusing it on something that is NOT real, or not true. What do the C's say about believing a lie?

Let's say, for argument's sake, that the disaster that awaits us is presently right on our doorstep and, because of its proximity, the energies from our planet that will accelerate its arrival will cause it to traverse that final "distance" if they are the dominant energies, and if they are powerful enough. Maybe - MAYBE - hundreds of millions of, if not a billion or more, human beings all ardently placing their belief in a single lie, all at the same time, might be a powerful enough energy to overwhelm the opposing energies present at that time.

Not a prediction - just a thought.

 

[luke wilson]

Ragnaraok apparently is meant to occur in Feb.

_http://www.sott.net/article/268938-End-of-the-world-in-less-than-100-days-according-to-Viking-mythology

Norse / Germanic Mythology: Ragnarok

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqeDwZgsP1M

There is talk about economic meltdown in relation to fiat currency but no idea when that will happen if at all. Articles on SOTT indicate 2014 might be a turning point. They also indicate that 2013 was a boom in terms of the money markets but the actual real economy is still going south.

Last I checked there are no big comets to watch out for but there is always the risk of smaller/darker bodies, maybe another event this year similar to last? That will most definitely get people's attention. Keit has a thread opened regarding some event meant to occur in the atlantic - dubious at best as acknowledged in the thread.

Uhmm, plague, I think Madagascar has some outbreak of some kind and there has been talk of an outbreak of the H5N1 virus in china or something like that plus other 'H' outbreaks in the same region. Nothing global last I checked.

All in all, not sure when/how/what anything shall occur. My guess is same old same old, meteors, more economic inequality, war/rumors of war etc etc plus the usual onslaught of dates when the world shall cease.

Regarding the weather, here in the UK, we have had recent flooding and gale force winds but not apocalyptic. So far I havent seen any snow and in my opinion the winter is mild temperature wise. Last winter was worse in terms of the cold by my reckoning, at least in the UK, OSIT. However, the weather is unpredictable and things could change.

Regarding the WC, I think there will be protests most likely around that time in Brazil as was the case during the confedarations cup but no doubt security will be merciless and the usual talk about unity/sport /dialogue from societies high priests and sporting superstars will placate the mobs.

Unless you have any new info I think you should just expect more of the same.

 

[Palinurus]

Let's say, for argument's sake, that the disaster that awaits us is presently right on our doorstep and, because of its proximity, the energies from our planet that will accelerate its arrival will cause it to traverse that final "distance" if they are the dominant energies, and if they are powerful enough. Maybe - MAYBE - hundreds of millions of, if not a billion or more, human beings all ardently placing their belief in a single lie, all at the same time, might be a powerful enough energy to overwhelm the opposing energies present at that time.

Not a prediction - just a thought.

It's the quality of the lie so to speak that makes all the difference, I think.

The World Cup circus is only a minor lie (in my view) compared to for instance the belief in the official narrative about 9/11 and all what ensued in the slipstream and fallout from that basic event. That's a ground zero and a year zero event which would qualify to meet your expectations about the wider influence of human belief systems. It changed realities considerably with implications even now still widening in scope. The World Cup is not such an event IMO.

Sorry to not have made myself clear enough first time 'round.

 

[mocachapeau]

It's the quality of the lie so to speak that makes all the difference, I think.

The World Cup circus is only a minor lie (in my view) compared to for instance the belief in the official narrative about 9/11 and all what ensued in the slipstream and fallout from that basic event. That's a ground zero and a year zero event which would qualify to meet your expectations about the wider influence of human belief systems. It changed realities considerably with implications even now still widening in scope. The World Cup is not such an event IMO.

Sorry to not have made myself clear enough first time 'round.

I agree with what you are saying, particularly about there being no comparison between the 9/11 lie and probably most others. And I think you are probably right in describing the World Cup as a minor lie.

The only thing I am wondering about, is the amount of energy invested in, and expended for, that lie - minor lie or not. There is an enormous amount of emotional energy expended by individuals supporting "their team". I know, because I used to be heavily invested in sports and I know just how overwhelming those emotions can be, even if they don't last more than a week or two (or more in the case of the WC).

Take for example the WC in which a Columbian player was actually murdered by a fellow countryman when he got back home after having scored an own goal to lose the Cup for his country. How much emotional and energetic investment is that? That is the extreme, but it says quite a bit about what might be called the average amount of emotional investment involved by individuals.

So then we multiply that by an unseemly number of people on the planet when it involves the World Cup and that's a LOT of expended energy. And all for a lie.

You may be right that it isn't very influential because of the minor importance of the lie, but at the same time I think it represents an enormous amount of emotional energy produced by humanity in a relatively small period of time.

 

[Palinurus]

The only thing I am wondering about, is the amount of energy invested in, and expended for, that lie - minor lie or not. There is an enormous amount of emotional energy expended by individuals supporting "their team". I know, because I used to be heavily invested in sports and I know just how overwhelming those emotions can be, even if they don't last more than a week or two (or more in the case of the WC).

Take for example the WC in which a Columbian player was actually murdered by a fellow countryman when he got back home after having scored an own goal to lose the Cup for his country. How much emotional and energetic investment is that? That is the extreme, but it says quite a bit about what might be called the average amount of emotional investment involved by individuals.

So then we multiply that by an unseemly number of people on the planet when it involves the World Cup and that's a LOT of expended energy. And all for a lie.

As the national teams are pitted against one another, the net result of all this emotional energy would be close to zero, I think, because it all evens out in the end to be a total waste down the drain (pun intended).

Therefore, it probably will be a feast for 4D STS to feed on but a very unlikely source for world shattering developments in any which way you might want to consider. OSIT.

 

[mocachapeau]

Therefore, it probably will be a feast for 4D STS to feed on but a very unlikely source for world shattering developments in any which way you might want to consider. OSIT.

Good point.

Although, it would be interesting to know what kind of effect on cosmic events a massive amount of intense, negative energy can have, even if it is produced by a relatively less important lie.

I mean, just having sex feeds 4D STS, but does it do more than that considering how widespread it is, how constant it is, and how much importance humanity puts on it? Is it, or can it be, a contributing factor for world shattering developments? Would the development of world shattering events be affected if everyone stopped having sex? Sex certainly was the driving factor at making humans "go through the door after the gold" at the time of the fall, and the result was pretty significant.

Are only specific energies important for these events, or do all energies play their part depending on their quantity and/or intensity?

I don't know, but I think these might be good questions.