I came across an interesting passage in Gurdjieff's book Meetings with Remarkable Men. It is a fascinating book and would encourage everyone to get a copy and read it.
Gurdjieff excerted tremendous efforts, often under great danger and with great cunning, to visit places in eastern countries where no European could go, in the search for secrets that could not have been learned otherwise. This book is a chronicle of his adventures, with direct quotes of several remarkable men that he and his fellows met during the journeys.
The following excerpt is about Father Giovanni, a former Christian priest who entered the 'World Brotherhood' (in Kafiristan), which was a fellowship unifying a number of adepts coming from various religious origins (Christians, Jews, Mohammedans, Buddhists, Lamaists, Shamanists).
The interesting part is about "studying events of the past" as a prerequisite to grow a soul. This is interesting in respect to the work we do on this forum, of which a large part is studying history.
Gurdjieff excerted tremendous efforts, often under great danger and with great cunning, to visit places in eastern countries where no European could go, in the search for secrets that could not have been learned otherwise. This book is a chronicle of his adventures, with direct quotes of several remarkable men that he and his fellows met during the journeys.
The following excerpt is about Father Giovanni, a former Christian priest who entered the 'World Brotherhood' (in Kafiristan), which was a fellowship unifying a number of adepts coming from various religious origins (Christians, Jews, Mohammedans, Buddhists, Lamaists, Shamanists).
The interesting part is about "studying events of the past" as a prerequisite to grow a soul. This is interesting in respect to the work we do on this forum, of which a large part is studying history.
Meetings with Remarable Men said:Many extraordinary questions which never enter the heads of contemporary people were then aroused in us and elucidated by this rare man, Father Giovanni, the like of whom is scarcely ever met with in contemporary life. One of his explanations, which followed a question put to him by Professor Skridlov two days before we left the monastery, is of enormous interest for everyone, owing to the depth of the thoughts it contained and its possible significance for contemporary people who have already reached responsible age.
This question of Professor Skridlov was torn from him as from the depths of his being, when Father Giovanni had said that, before counting on really coming under the effects and influences of the higher forces, it was absolutely necessary to have a soul, which it was possible to acquire only through voluntary and involuntary experiencings and information intentionally learned about real events which had taken place in the past. He convincingly added that this in its turn was possible almost exclusively in youth, when the definite data received from Great Nature are not yet spent on unnecessary, fantastic aims, which appear to be good owing only to the abnormally established conditions of the life of people.
At these words Professor Skridlov sighed deeply and exclaimed in despair: 'What, then, can we do; how can we live on?'
In answer to this exclamation of Skridlov, Father Giovanni, having remained silent for a moment, expressed those remarkable thoughts which I consider it necessary to reproduce, in so far as possible, word for word. I shall place them, as relating to the question of the soul, that is, the third independently formed part of the common presence of a man, in the chapter entitled 'The divine body of man, and its needs and possible manifestations according to law', but only in the third series of my writings. [Note: This is Life is only real when I Am] [...]