Towards the physical and mathematical nature of the 4th "dimension" of space

EricLux said:

Reading @Laura's and @ark's Q&A about the 4th "dimension" of space, made me realize quite a few things, so I thought I'd share them with you.
Here you will find some questions to deepen our understanding:

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Your summary of the dimensions, citing authors and theories, was very interesting.

I really enjoy reading about all these scientific matters, although it's difficult to understand the technical terms and formulas, This time, I only understood about 30 percent of that writing, full of phrases and generally very specialized nomenclature.

I'm working on this; I don't know if it's a theory or just some connected thoughts without using scientific terms about this complicated network of densities and dimensions.

What I also didn't understand is why you started by discussing dimensions and then continued your presentation by discussing densities interchangeably, as if they had the same scientific value.

Therefore, it's very gratifying that these kinds of difficult topics are being discussed. There's always something that leads us to a better understanding of life in any of its various facets or dimensions.
 
What I also didn't understand is why you started by discussing dimensions and then continued your presentation by discussing densities interchangeably, as if they had the same scientific value.
Science-wise as SasaM mentioned via Ark's session conversation, densities would be like a change of phase (like ice or vapor or liquid for water for example). Spacetime dimensions would form a space to handle phases called a phase space. Physics models would describe the dimensions structure at the small scale single vertex level and all the vertices in the universe state throughout time even would handle the actual using of complicated things like consciousness. So this math of dimensions is kind of too small to actually see the consciousness events but the idea is that the infinite amount of universe vertices with these dimensions do handle it even though it is too much information to actually do math simulations of directly. You kind of look at the general idea of how position-momentum phase spaces derived from spacetime dimensions work in general for simplified situations.
 
Yes, it is increasingly noted in the scientific field that, for several decades now, there has been a sense of a plateau within the 3D realm: scientific questions are piling up, major breakthroughs are no longer occurring and mathematics is becoming increasingly abstract and complicated. Is this a sign of a decorrelation between mathematics and physical reality? It is obvious that we can only seek to describe what is observed through the lens of what we know and grasping the reality of the 4th 'dimension' of space is a genuine challenge for the human mind, even for the world’s best scientists.

We are embodied in a 3D reality, at least as we collectively perceive it, and the very fact that we can perceive a 3D reality indicates that we possess, at the very least, a 4th dimension that enables this perception. Where does it reside within our human structure? Furthermore, it is important to note that when we observe an object in our environment, we perceive it from a given angle or perspective. It is never fully apprehended — as @Laura mentioned in a session (14 January 1995) — in a 360° perspective with total fusion. This is one of the paths to approaching 4D reality: the transition from the individual to the collective. Separation from the observed in 3D, versus total fusion with the observed (which, incidentally, no longer needs to be called 'observed' since there is no longer an exterior or interior in this density).

Like you, @palestine, I always find it important to put words to things because it allows us, in a way, to maintain a link with reality. Mathematics is a bridge, a path that the mind has chosen to take to describe its physical environment. To me, it seems obvious that at some point — and this may be the case as early as 4D — mathematics and physics become ONE. This will certainly require changing the mathematical base (the base 10 system we use relies on a separate perception of things that allows for counting) to grasp the dynamics of 4D: will we even 'count' there, for that matter?

Granted, our major bias is that we are formatted for 3D and it is therefore exhausting to imagine a way out. Let’s not forget that the Cs indicated that to transition to 4D density, all 3D lessons must be mastered. This brings to mind phase changes in matter: nothing happens for a period and, then instantly, everything changes state. The key may lie there: we circle everything we can conceptualize in 3D until the moment an illumination, an intuition, or something else enables us to grasp the nature of the 4th 'dimension' of space that is so hidden from us... Perhaps it is the very thing locking our 3D reality and identifying it without fully understanding it will allow for a shift in our perception of reality?

Time is a 3D descriptive artifact of a 4D reality: we understood this well when the Cs confirmed that Einstein's approach was biased regarding time — a reality I had intuited back when I was at university. That was what opened a breach in my studies and made me realize I had to pursue this path... about 30 years ago. Of course, I’ve rubbed shoulders with the 'shut up and calculate' movement, which is content with doing the math as long as it works! :-)

But what I’ve realized by continuing to meditate on the nature of the 4th dimension, the speed of light and the emergence of modern physics, is that it cannot be done without the human mind... hence my questions regarding the integration of the conscious observer into 4D reality. It is still a taboo subject in quantum physics, even if more and more voices have been addressing it in recent years. This is normal, we must not forget the growing presence of the approaching Wave.

So, what is the 4th-dimensional process behind our 3D concept of linear time? The Cs told @ark to replace time with consciousness and to work in 'consciousness spaces'. How do we describe consciousness in math? This is what I was led to do while meditating on these subjects: I am now convinced that with 4D reality, we enter the non-linear where everything is connected, including to the human being. How can we approach the non-linear when all our references are linear? What is the constant that links everything into an organic reality (because we can no longer speak of a mechanical reality at this level, right?) while linking it entirely to the observer? Does this constant have a 3D mathematical counterpart or is it only graspable in 4D? Are quaternions, octonions and Clifford algebras 3D concepts? Maybe and they are the only tools currently at our disposal. Perhaps by identifying the nature and structure of the 4th 'dimension', there will be a feedback loop allowing us to see how to improve our mathematical tools so they aren't just 3D attempts to describe a 4D reality...

As the Cs like to say: you will understand once you are there! So, exhausting? Yes but so much fun! Because through this experience, we learn to know ourselves better and isn't knowledge fun?

PS: When time (lol) permits, I try to post messages in this format because it is part of our way of grasping this reality that is already germinating within us and that we are seeking. I remain convinced that — even if I don't yet know if we are speaking of a unified field at this level — it must ultimately be grasped by any human. I hope, @palestine, that this answers your message somewhat. :-)
Thank you! A lot of work before and yet to be done (found!). Good luck!
 
Science-wise as SasaM mentioned via Ark's session conversation, densities would be like a change of phase (like ice or vapor or liquid for water for example). Spacetime dimensions would form a space to handle phases called a phase space.
This just made me think of the latent heat(s) of vaporization and freezing. Is there an 'as above, so below' corollary for that in 4D? If so, then getting to 4D could take a lot of energy, while 4D 'coming here', would release energy, as in endothermic vs. exothermic?
[edit: maybe almost a chemical formula, 4D releases energy + sulfur]
 
Also in the latest session besides the idea of densities as phases (like with water), Ark asked what field the geometric (Clifford) algebra should be over and it was complex numbers. Technically this means the concept of a 4,4 signature doesn't exist but more practically you can still take 4 of the 8 for position and 4 of the 8 for momentum for forming the phase space. Signature is a metric thing and phase space is not a metric thing so it doesn't effect phase space construction. For the Minkowski space metric or degenerate metric you would not be using the 4,4 signature so that metric would have to be a substructure of the geometric algebra anyways.
 
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