Hi all,
I was always a bit reluctant to think about this topic because I thought it might lead away from the important things that are in front of me, and I wanted to avoid magical thinking/"pattern recognition run amok". But since so many experienced some interesting effects on the iodine protocol and my own experiences, I wonder about what it means to "transduce higher energy" and would like to share some thoughts. But I really don't know what to make of it really and if this makes any sense, so I welcome any feedback/thoughts/experience-sharing!
Okay, in the recent session, the C's said
So it appears that the endocrine system has something to do with our higher centers and our possible connection to higher densities. So I wondered how this relates to self-work/the Work. There's this remark by the C's, quoted from The Wave 3:
So the fusion of the magnetic center is a different thing than the activation of the endocrine system/our connection to higher energies. But still, it is somehow related, because the higher centers are "seated" by being "magnetized".
As I understand it, we must first form the magnetic center by a combination of self-observation, shocks and acting against our usual coping mechanisms in the face of these shocks. Then we become more stable and better able to work with our lower centers, especially the lower emotional center. We are less subject to the whims of external forces and can exercise our willpower muscle, i.e. doing what "it" doesn't like. However, we are still not connected to our "higher selves"/"higher centers", or in Gurdjieff's terms: we are preparing our house for the arrival of the "master" (higher centers), but he is not there yet. Maybe that's also one of the reasons why in the Work, you have to submit to the guidance of a teacher? Because at this stage, we may get in touch with our emotions and little I's and so forth and become more and more able to Do, but we have no higher selves guiding us as to what to do - hence the guidance by the teacher...
Now how can we picture the "higher centers", especially the higher emotional center? I used to think that when we get to the point that we are guided by our conscience (something I think I'm slowly getting better at, but still struggle with), we are connected, so to speak. But it seems that there is more to it.
As a simplified analogy, maybe we can think of the lower emotional center as some kind of stomach, where usually all the random emotional reactions are taking place. There is a pipeline connected to it, which leads "up" to our higher emotional center (higher energies can be transduced through it). Now the problem is that in our normal, mechanical emotional state, the emotions in the "stomach" are floating randomly and this way, are blocking what comes through the "pipeline". In practice, this would mean that we unconsciously block some aspects of reality because it makes us "feel bad", that we shy away from really feeling what's "in there" because we are terrified, because of various programs/trauma etc. So we have no way of perceiving "higher energies", even if they make it through the "pipeline".
If, however, we achieved a certain degree of familiarity with our emotional reactions/fused a magnetic center, and are able to really allow our feelings to unfold, to accept them and to work with them, we may be able to perceive some of the "higher energies" in the form of feelings - like terror and panic, but also joy, maybe this amounts to "truth experienced via feeling"... And this 'truth ray' in turn lets us realize even more things, makes us more aware, which of course in this world often means suffering. More awareness means also more contact with our emotional mayhem and also our physical problems, hence the reaction to iodine which 'brings up old stuff' both physically and psychically.
So this 'truth ray' can then be used as some form of rudimentary "guidance". For example, it may be possible to feel the "drain" that some people exercise on us, and act accordingly - as opposed to getting a 'high' of the lower centers that such interactions can also produce (emotional junk food). Or we may instinctively know in some situations what is the right thing to do, even against the whims of our lower centers - we are then guided by our conscience I think. In other words, we have established communication with out higher centers, especially emotional center, fragile as it is, by "magnetizing" it/bringing it "closer" to our lower emotional center by means of self-work, i.e. "seating of the higher centers". Of course in practice it seems far from being that clear-cut.
But still, there is a problem: our "pipeline" between higher and lower centers is mostly blocked and only lets a tickle of energy in, if even that:
So it seems that getting rid of "stuff" that blocks the energy flow in the pipeline (parasites resonating to a different frequency than the higher energies?), for example via iodine, can "open the floodgates" or at least initiate a "plumbing mission", even if it takes some time... Plus it seems that there are many differences between individuals, both in terms of the state of the lower centers and the degree of "blockages" by parasites and so on.
So, if true, what does this all mean? There have been lots of extremely interesting testimonies in the iodine thread and elsewhere. Personally, I experienced many of the things mentioned, but not very intense - like periods of anxiety, fast beating heart, feelings of joy, some psychic phenomena (never had any of those before consciously!), some feelings intensified, some damped, generally more stable mood, enhanced ability to control lower centers against external stimuli, better judgement, less harsh with myself etc. I also feel, and maybe that's crucial, more accepting of reality - of myself, my state and level of being, of the outside world etc.
I found one thing that I described here also very interesting: I'm kind of more aware of certain energy rhythms, that there are certain "opportunities" to Do something, certain periods of rest, certain doors opening up etc., and it feels easier to make decisions "on the spot". Just speculating here of course, but does this have something to do with "long wavelength" vs. "short wavelength cycle"? If you look at it, if there is a certain "pulse" or "amplitude" in a certain "wave of information" (though this time a "good" wave) that is recurring, let's say, every 10 hours and that we can somehow perceive, that would be a frequency of 0,014 Hz, or wavelength of 180 billion meters, very long!
Interestingly, these "energy rhythms" kind of follow a similar pattern as our endocrine system. Wikipedia tells us:
If we think in terms of the radio analogy, a simple receiver works by having an oscillator working slightly off the desired frequency "transduce" the signals from the antenna to audible frequencies (mixing). Interestingly, there is a phenomenon called "parasitic oscillation", which means certain electronic elements become oscillators themselves and thus distort the signal:
Parasitic oscillation can also have the effect that we receive an undesired frequency... Just thought it's an interesting analogy to our parasites receiving "waves of information", thus acting as "parasitic oscillations".
This made me also think about this remark by the Cs:
I don't know about the "and more" part, but could the activation of the endocrine system (for example by killing parasites) somehow help to "tune our centers" and thus "change the frequency", so that we enhance our "receivership capability" of the right frequencies (like in the radio analogy) - which then enables us to perceive these "finer energies"/long-wavelength frequencies in the rhythm of our endocrine system (a few hours to weeks), which then helps us know "what needs to be done"?
I'm sorry for the long musing, and I know that this line of thought can lead to a lot of wishful thinking... In fact I saved this draft a few weeks ago and wasn't sure if it's not just idle talk, but I thought I post it here FWIW :)
I was always a bit reluctant to think about this topic because I thought it might lead away from the important things that are in front of me, and I wanted to avoid magical thinking/"pattern recognition run amok". But since so many experienced some interesting effects on the iodine protocol and my own experiences, I wonder about what it means to "transduce higher energy" and would like to share some thoughts. But I really don't know what to make of it really and if this makes any sense, so I welcome any feedback/thoughts/experience-sharing!
Okay, in the recent session, the C's said
Session 23 Jan 2016 said:
So it appears that the endocrine system has something to do with our higher centers and our possible connection to higher densities. So I wondered how this relates to self-work/the Work. There's this remark by the C's, quoted from The Wave 3:
So the fusion of the magnetic center is a different thing than the activation of the endocrine system/our connection to higher energies. But still, it is somehow related, because the higher centers are "seated" by being "magnetized".
As I understand it, we must first form the magnetic center by a combination of self-observation, shocks and acting against our usual coping mechanisms in the face of these shocks. Then we become more stable and better able to work with our lower centers, especially the lower emotional center. We are less subject to the whims of external forces and can exercise our willpower muscle, i.e. doing what "it" doesn't like. However, we are still not connected to our "higher selves"/"higher centers", or in Gurdjieff's terms: we are preparing our house for the arrival of the "master" (higher centers), but he is not there yet. Maybe that's also one of the reasons why in the Work, you have to submit to the guidance of a teacher? Because at this stage, we may get in touch with our emotions and little I's and so forth and become more and more able to Do, but we have no higher selves guiding us as to what to do - hence the guidance by the teacher...
Now how can we picture the "higher centers", especially the higher emotional center? I used to think that when we get to the point that we are guided by our conscience (something I think I'm slowly getting better at, but still struggle with), we are connected, so to speak. But it seems that there is more to it.
As a simplified analogy, maybe we can think of the lower emotional center as some kind of stomach, where usually all the random emotional reactions are taking place. There is a pipeline connected to it, which leads "up" to our higher emotional center (higher energies can be transduced through it). Now the problem is that in our normal, mechanical emotional state, the emotions in the "stomach" are floating randomly and this way, are blocking what comes through the "pipeline". In practice, this would mean that we unconsciously block some aspects of reality because it makes us "feel bad", that we shy away from really feeling what's "in there" because we are terrified, because of various programs/trauma etc. So we have no way of perceiving "higher energies", even if they make it through the "pipeline".
If, however, we achieved a certain degree of familiarity with our emotional reactions/fused a magnetic center, and are able to really allow our feelings to unfold, to accept them and to work with them, we may be able to perceive some of the "higher energies" in the form of feelings - like terror and panic, but also joy, maybe this amounts to "truth experienced via feeling"... And this 'truth ray' in turn lets us realize even more things, makes us more aware, which of course in this world often means suffering. More awareness means also more contact with our emotional mayhem and also our physical problems, hence the reaction to iodine which 'brings up old stuff' both physically and psychically.
So this 'truth ray' can then be used as some form of rudimentary "guidance". For example, it may be possible to feel the "drain" that some people exercise on us, and act accordingly - as opposed to getting a 'high' of the lower centers that such interactions can also produce (emotional junk food). Or we may instinctively know in some situations what is the right thing to do, even against the whims of our lower centers - we are then guided by our conscience I think. In other words, we have established communication with out higher centers, especially emotional center, fragile as it is, by "magnetizing" it/bringing it "closer" to our lower emotional center by means of self-work, i.e. "seating of the higher centers". Of course in practice it seems far from being that clear-cut.
But still, there is a problem: our "pipeline" between higher and lower centers is mostly blocked and only lets a tickle of energy in, if even that:
Session 18 July 2015 said:
So it seems that getting rid of "stuff" that blocks the energy flow in the pipeline (parasites resonating to a different frequency than the higher energies?), for example via iodine, can "open the floodgates" or at least initiate a "plumbing mission", even if it takes some time... Plus it seems that there are many differences between individuals, both in terms of the state of the lower centers and the degree of "blockages" by parasites and so on.
So, if true, what does this all mean? There have been lots of extremely interesting testimonies in the iodine thread and elsewhere. Personally, I experienced many of the things mentioned, but not very intense - like periods of anxiety, fast beating heart, feelings of joy, some psychic phenomena (never had any of those before consciously!), some feelings intensified, some damped, generally more stable mood, enhanced ability to control lower centers against external stimuli, better judgement, less harsh with myself etc. I also feel, and maybe that's crucial, more accepting of reality - of myself, my state and level of being, of the outside world etc.
I found one thing that I described here also very interesting: I'm kind of more aware of certain energy rhythms, that there are certain "opportunities" to Do something, certain periods of rest, certain doors opening up etc., and it feels easier to make decisions "on the spot". Just speculating here of course, but does this have something to do with "long wavelength" vs. "short wavelength cycle"? If you look at it, if there is a certain "pulse" or "amplitude" in a certain "wave of information" (though this time a "good" wave) that is recurring, let's say, every 10 hours and that we can somehow perceive, that would be a frequency of 0,014 Hz, or wavelength of 180 billion meters, very long!
Interestingly, these "energy rhythms" kind of follow a similar pattern as our endocrine system. Wikipedia tells us:
If we think in terms of the radio analogy, a simple receiver works by having an oscillator working slightly off the desired frequency "transduce" the signals from the antenna to audible frequencies (mixing). Interestingly, there is a phenomenon called "parasitic oscillation", which means certain electronic elements become oscillators themselves and thus distort the signal:
(wikipedia)
Parasitic oscillation can also have the effect that we receive an undesired frequency... Just thought it's an interesting analogy to our parasites receiving "waves of information", thus acting as "parasitic oscillations".
This made me also think about this remark by the Cs:
Session 26 July 2014 said:
I don't know about the "and more" part, but could the activation of the endocrine system (for example by killing parasites) somehow help to "tune our centers" and thus "change the frequency", so that we enhance our "receivership capability" of the right frequencies (like in the radio analogy) - which then enables us to perceive these "finer energies"/long-wavelength frequencies in the rhythm of our endocrine system (a few hours to weeks), which then helps us know "what needs to be done"?
I'm sorry for the long musing, and I know that this line of thought can lead to a lot of wishful thinking... In fact I saved this draft a few weeks ago and wasn't sure if it's not just idle talk, but I thought I post it here FWIW :)
