Kenny McCormick
Jedi
It would be interesting, even if official version is true... Or anyone knows anything?
True cause of Bruce Lee death?
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Could you elaborate? When did he die? What is the official version? Do you think there were reasons that the official version shouldn't be true? Was there anything special about Bruce Lee as a person? Etc. Put a link or more in and some information from those links to back up your train of thought.Michał said:
In that way other people on the forum will be more invited to respond.
There's this:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,20999.msg216924.html#msg216924
duyunne
Jedi Council Member
I think he wants to expound on the true cause of his sudden death. This wasn't emphasized in the question. They quite literally have the most obvious common sense answer to the inquiry.
I can understand why one would ask, considering the conspiracies based around his controversial teachings of martial arts to America during his life, which was presumed to be upsetting to other masters who, I'm led to believe, didn't want these teachings to be accessible to people outside of their culture.
I wouldn't be shocked if his death was a result of opening the world up to this knowledge, or some other trivial spurn of jealousy and contempt against him being superior in the art.
Unless it truly was accidental?
I suppose the question of why instead of what happened will probably garner more interesting answers.
I can understand why one would ask, considering the conspiracies based around his controversial teachings of martial arts to America during his life, which was presumed to be upsetting to other masters who, I'm led to believe, didn't want these teachings to be accessible to people outside of their culture.
I wouldn't be shocked if his death was a result of opening the world up to this knowledge, or some other trivial spurn of jealousy and contempt against him being superior in the art.
Unless it truly was accidental?
I suppose the question of why instead of what happened will probably garner more interesting answers.
zak
The Living Force
Aeneas said:
His son Brandon Lee is dead during the shooting of the movie The crow of the J O'Barr's comics.
An accident enough rare ...in the film world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Lee
Based on what I've read and and talking with a person that I knew who trained with Bruce Lee it was probably his intensity of physical training that eventually killed him. From what I understand Bruce Lee fought more like a tornado (like Joe Frasier) rather then as a precision sharpshooter. When sparring/fighting he would throw a fast succession of kicks and punches in a somewhat 'wild' fashion but with very high power, speed, intensity, and control until something got thru his opponents defenses.
An 'all out' wild street fight is very high intensity but usually lasts for a short period of time unlike a professional boxing or kickboxing match where the fighters have to conserve their energy so as to be able to last for many rounds. However, Bruce Lee would be able to maintain the high intensity that one would find in a life and death street fight for almost an indefinite length of time. When in this high energy 'mode' he would say that he would often see his opponent moving in slow motion. He even had a name for this specific state but I forget what he called it. He was able to go from a calm relaxed state into that high intensity state in an instant and then go back into a relaxed state with equal ease and maintain this explosive high intensity fighting almost indefinitely. A good representation of this high intensity 'wild'/explosive fighting (but controlled and directed) is in the movie Fist Of Fury when he was fighting 'the Russian' (martial artist Robert Baker) towards the end of the movie. So, in my opinion, it was his intense training methods that he used so as to help him maintain this intensity that eventually led to his death. FWIW!
An 'all out' wild street fight is very high intensity but usually lasts for a short period of time unlike a professional boxing or kickboxing match where the fighters have to conserve their energy so as to be able to last for many rounds. However, Bruce Lee would be able to maintain the high intensity that one would find in a life and death street fight for almost an indefinite length of time. When in this high energy 'mode' he would say that he would often see his opponent moving in slow motion. He even had a name for this specific state but I forget what he called it. He was able to go from a calm relaxed state into that high intensity state in an instant and then go back into a relaxed state with equal ease and maintain this explosive high intensity fighting almost indefinitely. A good representation of this high intensity 'wild'/explosive fighting (but controlled and directed) is in the movie Fist Of Fury when he was fighting 'the Russian' (martial artist Robert Baker) towards the end of the movie. So, in my opinion, it was his intense training methods that he used so as to help him maintain this intensity that eventually led to his death. FWIW!
If you watch Bruce Lees early movies compared to the later ones have a look at his jaw bone and facial features. To me it appears very much like steroid use changes. I have always thought that he quite likely had a heart attack due to damage to the functioning of the heart from steroid use. He was doing everything he could think of to train and perfect his physical abilities. I imagine at the time the dangers of steroid abuse was not known.
zak said:
Do you mean G's accumulators? I recall that it was said it is rare to die from overusing and not filling them quickly enough. And that the person would be exhausted before that. But I suppose you could work the body to death. I think kenlee meant it was wear and tear over a period of time that lead to his death.
zak
The Living Force
What are the G's for accumulators ?
I wanted to say that he used all his vital energy trying to keep the intensity high, added probably to the tiredness
of shooting/montage of his films, and some steroids, as said gottathink, to help him to keep this intensity, and so he paid the price.
Thanx 3D Student to make me think more about this.
I wonder if he was conscious about this.
I wanted to say that he used all his vital energy trying to keep the intensity high, added probably to the tiredness
of shooting/montage of his films, and some steroids, as said gottathink, to help him to keep this intensity, and so he paid the price.
Thanx 3D Student to make me think more about this.
I wonder if he was conscious about this.
Kenny McCormick
Jedi
Thenk you everyone for comments, my attention was focused by strange information, that he had been eating a lot of hashish before death. So it rose my suspicions - if he would have been able to operate in spite of such a diet? Doesn't affect it his actions? What could be the reason if the information is real? He was young and seemed to be perfectly healthy - or he just spent all his life energy?
Kenny McCormick
Jedi
In conclusion:
We know he suddenly died due to brain aneurysm.
- What caused that?
- What was the prime factor that lead to his death?
- Was it self-intoxication, poisoning, brain tumor, or somebody's mistake?
- Or maybe he used without control what should be conserved in body?
- Did his lack of body fat contribute to his death?
- Was there any plot to kill him or his son (for insurance reasons for example), or there were just accidents?
We know he suddenly died due to brain aneurysm.
- What caused that?
- What was the prime factor that lead to his death?
- Was it self-intoxication, poisoning, brain tumor, or somebody's mistake?
- Or maybe he used without control what should be conserved in body?
- Did his lack of body fat contribute to his death?
- Was there any plot to kill him or his son (for insurance reasons for example), or there were just accidents?
