Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

[rognaill]

Everything coming from the empire of lies is a lie until proven otherwise.

I am pretty aware that past lies are being exposed in 'real-time' for everyone to see. The change in the narrative is even at the hyper-dimensional level per the information provided by Laura's research.

An anti-drug operation in any country is a simple interception that the US coastal guards in US waters are capable of

So simple that it never happens? What if drugs (and all sorts of other weapons) are not showing up directly on US coastal waters but an intermediate country and then brought in over say, an open border?

The goal is Venezuelan oil and resources,

While Venezuela has large amounts of hydro-carbons under it's territory, it is gummy and hard to refine. Higher octanes cost more to refine, and Venezuelan hydro-carbons are nearly as bad as to refine as Canadian oil-sands (tar). So not quite some pile of gold bars laying around for the conquistadors to just scoop up and ship back to Spain...

fighting drug cartels (fighting the CIA? not possible)

Again, in 'real-time' we are seeing exactly the current US administration taking on the CIA, so not agreeing it is "not possible".

The US military has been murdering people for big money and corporations for over a century,

The nature of the US military is to defend against actors intent on harming US national interests. Those that have been in charge for many decades (potentially by way of voter manipulation/election fraud) have enriched themselves while sending US young adults off to war (needlessly) is indeed a fact and something that is being exposed by this current US administration.

So to assume all past US administrations are the same as the current one, with all of the exposure being disseminated far and wide, seems to indicate a level of presumption that the times you are living in, cannot be any different than the times you have read from historians of the past.

 

[rognaill]

Those who deserve the death penalty are hardly a part of catch and release, which is usually done only for immigration offenses or low-risk individuals. Demanding their deaths seems disproportionate.

Not sure of your news sources (as that is becoming a distinct qualifier these days) but I would suggest looking closer to say states like Texas or Arizona, where many violent (alot of violence against children) individuals that were 'tagged' with just an exchange of info with a US Border Patrol agent upon illegally entering the US, have been arrested recently. To the point from the lens of what public information is available, the majority of violence against children and women, are at the hands of those that benefited from "catch and release".

summary executions, which is state-sanctioned killing without trial and what Trump has started doing now

Applying Civilian court standards to a Military operation which operates under Military laws only riles people up with outrage without awareness or explanation of the differences.

In order to know the difference, a bit more effort in researching is required. A side benefit of more engagement in research is that you can short circuit your emotional center from draining your battery and allows for much more productivity in your goal/wish.

Which the majority of us here on this forum share a common goal/wish, which is to learn more about how to deal with the 'gravity of the situation' we are waking up to. Bit by bit, day by day.

 

[axj]

Applying Civilian court standards to a Military operation which operates under Military laws only riles people up with outrage without awareness or explanation of the differences.

The actual problem people see is that this was made into a military operation at all, setting a dangerous precedent. Plus, the stated goal of fighting Venezuelan drug cartels is most likely a lie - the real reason seems to be the US wish to control Venezuela's oil.

While Venezuela has large amounts of hydro-carbons under it's territory, it is gummy and hard to refine. Higher octanes cost more to refine, and Venezuelan hydro-carbons are nearly as bad as to refine as Canadian oil-sands (tar).

The US oil giants already invested billions in constructing refineries at the Gulf Coast that are specifically for Venezuelan oil.

A side benefit of more engagement in research is that you can short circuit your emotional center from draining your battery and allows for much more productivity in your goal/wish.

The main goal on this forum is to do the Work on ourselves. This includes balancing, clearing and healing the emotional center - not short-circuiting it.

 

[rognaill]

The actual problem people see is that this was made into a military operation at all,

Not sure where the 'problem' lies? Defending the US citizens from a weaponized chemical compound by force by a branch that is constitutionally authorized to do so, saves lives.

The US oil giants already invested billions in constructing refineries at the Gulf Coast that are specifically for Venezuelan oil.

My data that I am receiving as I have family and friends that are on three weeks and off two that work on those platforms in that area and they all pivot via Brazil before getting on a helicopter out of Brazil, which is the named location of the operations down there, not Venezuela.

The main goal on this forum is to do the Work on ourselves. This includes balancing, clearing and healing the emotional center - not short-circuiting it.

Short-circuiting (in my parlance) is an intentional act and demonstrates a level of attention (a-tension) that can allow for awareness of your centers. This awareness gives the ability to interact differently with them than before.

It is interesting that you mention balance, as in many of the sessions, there has been comments regarding a "need" for "balance".

I don't disagree with that need for balance, and the opportunity to start within ourselves seems pretty logical to me.

But I suspect the geographical lens distortion might be a factor when someone expresses views that are not congruent with someone else on the other side of the BBM.

 

[John G]

The actual problem people see is that this was made into a military operation at all, setting a dangerous precedent. Plus, the stated goal of fighting Venezuelan drug cartels is most likely a lie - the real reason seems to be the US wish to control Venezuela's oil.


The US oil giants already invested billions in constructing refineries at the Gulf Coast that are specifically for Venezuelan oil.

This is more a Trump thing than a U.S. thing. Even pro-Trump Fox News isn't sure the courts will let Trump treat the war on drugs as a literal war. Trump is for sure more serious about cleaning up the border than previous presidents including violent criminals of other countries let in via catch and release, drug trafficking across the border and human trafficking across the border. Like with crime in U.S. cities, Trump is apparently not shy about what he can use the military for to reduce crime and certainly the courts and local/state lawmakers could be against Trump for this. Apparently the Washington, D.C. mayor liked the results and is now OK with help from Trump. There's already a deal for getting oil from Venezuela. Trump had previously killed Biden's allowing of it, but there was a deal again as part of a prisoner swap. Trump had been getting criticized for allowing Venezuela oil to be controlled by China.

 

[axj]

Not sure where the 'problem' lies? Defending the US citizens from a weaponized chemical compound by force by a branch that is constitutionally authorized to do so, saves lives.

I think you were already told what the problems are. It sets a dangerous precedent of using the military for what used to be law enforcement, especially the now possible summary executions without trial. The other problem is that the "fight against drugs" is most likely a lie, as it has been for decades.

As an American you should be particularly careful about wanting to solve problems with "military action". The US military has been misused for decades for basically private interests while destroying countries and killing probably millions.

This is probably one of the main reasons why the US is facing inevitable destruction, according to the C's.

 

[Voyageur]

fighting drug cartels (fighting the CIA? not possible)

Again, in 'real-time' we are seeing exactly the current US administration taking on the CIA, so not agreeing it is "not possible".

The thing now (and not just now) about the CIA, is it has morphed into, as the C's remind, a consortium, which is likely a global interconnected colossal that one can't even find the edges of (osit). So, for me anyway, it seems rather unrealistic for it to be stopped by a mere administration taking them on - and who exactly is it they would taking on (in a fair fight they might inflict a couple of dents, maybe)?

I agree it is possible if the fight was fair, yet it would probably take a great comet to finish them off - and only then would people get Kennedy's words of taking the CIA and "splinter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds," aside from most all of us with them. Thus, mkrnhr likely has the right of it until proven otherwise.

 

[Cosmos]

Whatever happened to the idea of “not fit for office“? Frankly speaking, not only in the US and EU but in the west in general there seems to be a big problem in that regard. At times it almost looks like the most unfit for office have taken office. I guess Ponerology explains quite some aspects of this development but probably not all.

The sharp difference becomes especially obvious when you see/hear leaders of countries interact that are not western. China and especially Russia for example. I reckon that most if not all people that are currently leading stuff in the west wouldn’t have qualified for any such position just 30-40 years ago. It often looks like idiocracy playing out in real life, most especially in the west.

 

[Possibility of Being]

[US] anti-drug operation [...] This is akin of bombing a hospital and saying it is khamas

Those two are becoming more and more undistinguishable indistinguishable, don't they?

But I suspect the geographical lens distortion might be a factor when someone expresses views that are not congruent with someone else on the other side of the BBM.

In most cases, if not all, that means that at least one of the parties doesn't look at a given situation or event objectively, and instead considers own (personal, group, national, etc.) interests above morality and international law.
I think it's not what we strive to practice here.

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Edit: damn English

 

[Two-tents]

Extracts from a new article on the Dr. Rath Foundation website (to which I’m subscribed):

Pharma’s Coup Attempt: How Cartel Insiders Are Plotting to Oust Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. - Dr. Rath Health Foundation



How Cartel Insiders Are Plotting to Oust Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

A leaked memo from one of the pharma cartel’s most powerful trade groups has revealed a desperate plan to push Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. out of his role as United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). The document, apparently originating from a closed-door meeting of the Biotechnology Innovation Organization (BIO), shows that industry leaders are prepared to spend millions of dollars lobbying Congress and manipulating public opinion to force Kennedy from his job. At stake is not just U.S. government vaccine policy, but the deeper question of who actually runs public health in America – democratically elected officials, or the corporations that profit from disease.

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The memo points to this month (September 2025) as a critical deadline.

 

[Puma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1963653620404294141

I saw many posts like this on X , so I had to ask if you (americans) voted for this.

IMO Killing 11 people in cold blood, without warning, without giving them a chance to surrender, and without trial, even if they are suspected drug traffickers and then taking pride in it because "I voted for this" is typical of psychopaths. Like those Zionists dancing on the graves of "Palestinian terrorists." or celebrate the bombing of a camp of people suspected of aiding terrorists.

Fortunately, there are also Americans who, although they voted for Trump, are not convinced that bombing is the best course of action.



Also, I am concerned because today it is Venezuela tomorrow it will be Mexico, under the pretext of "immediate threat to the US," as Rubio justified, arrogantly adding, "by presidential order, we blew it up. And it will happen again"​

 

[mabar]

I saw many posts like this on X , so I had to ask if you (americans) voted for this.

IMO Killing 11 people in cold blood, without warning, without giving them a chance to surrender, and without trial, even if they are suspected drug traffickers and then taking pride in it because "I voted for this" is typical of psychopaths. Like those Zionists dancing on the graves of "Palestinian terrorists." or celebrate the bombing of a camp of people suspected of aiding terrorists.

Surely there are many, hundreds, thousands? of bots in order to favor such narrative. at least at X. As the post from mkrnhr, similar to Hamas, they will hunt them because such strikes saves US citizens lives.

 

[hobnob]

I saw many posts like this on X , so I had to ask if you (americans) voted for this.
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I was just one vote, so I know I don't matter much. But my impression from what Trump had said was that he wanted to make deals with Venezuela, and he did not say that he wanted start bombing boats or start wars. Venezuela, of course, is not obligated to make deals anyway.

The impression most American voters have may be that Venezuelans cause a lot of their problems, moving in illegally and selling fentanyl. I don't exactly blame them for either, but in regards to drugs specifically: What I know is that I am just as educated, poorly or not, on the issue of drugs as some of my addicted friends are, and although they chose to take drugs, I didn't.

 

[axj]

The impression most American voters have may be that Venezuelans cause a lot of their problems, moving in illegally and selling fentanyl.

There seems to be no evidence that fentanyl is coming from Venezuela. If it is coming from abroad, it seems to be mostly from or through Mexico. The DEA stated in 2020 that fentanyl precursors come in from China and India to Mexico and then to the US.

 

[Puma]

they will hunt them because such strikes saves US citizens lives.

What's worse is that many Americans believe the narrative "deadly chemicals killing Americans" when the truth is that they are killing themselves. They are consumers, they are the market, they are the demand. It's a principle of capitalism: producers would not manufacture "deadly chemicals" if there were no consumers willing to buy them.

Diabetes is one of the leading causes of death in Mexico and is associated with frequent consumption of soft drinks. According to data from the Mexican Institute for Economic Competitiveness (IMCO), Coca-Cola accounts for 64.8% of total sales in the country's soft drink market. (Mexico is the second largest consumer of Coca-Cola in the world with 19.5 billion liters, and annual sales revenue represents about $14.53 billion)

Who is forcing Mexicans to drink Coca-Cola or another soft drink?

Imagine that one day the Mexican government declares that Coca-Cola is killing Mexicans and decides to ban its sale in Mexico. Undoubtedly, the US Chamber of Commerce or trade authority would protest, citing international laws and trade agreements or tariff increase in the best-case scenario, but it wouldn't be long before US demanded regime change.​