I'm keeping a rather close eye on J.D. Vance ever since I was made aware of him, and especially after he got into the position of the vice president of the US. As said in other posts, I was considering him as a potentially pretty interesting wild card, and that hasn't changed. Throughout that time right until after I watched parts of his memorial on Charlie Kirks show after he was assassinated, I kept switching back and forth in my assessment of him in terms of the likelihood that he is the real deal in a good sense or not. I kept switching back and for going slightly under 50 or above 50 percent in terms of the chances in my estimation. Yesterday I watched Tucker Carl memorial of Kirk on Kirks Show and I found what he and they guys said about J.D. Vance pretty interesting. First they talk about Erika Kirk, and the video starts at that point:
I recommend watching the above and pay attention to what Tucker and the others are saying about Vance. So here I am after having followed what Vance has been saying and doing rather closely, and I'm at a point now where I'm willing to bet on the following:
J.D. Vance is the real deal and I think it could get very interesting if he becomes the next president, which by all indications looks like it is very likely! It should be noted that I'm aware of the funding he has received from people like Peter Thiel and also that on the surface it isn't easy to tell if he is just another snake oils person, BUT it should be noted: He is in the midst of a system of probably the most powerful empire of lies and corruption in known history, so by definition, if you should be a good guy trying to make a difference by aiming for the highest official position within that empire, it should go without saying that you probably need and have to walk a very delicate, difficult and strategic road. Remember Caesar. It is likely in such a system, if you are good and want to make such a difference, that you will need to work with money and "endorsement" from rather questionable people while you might need to develop a rather cunning facade.
I will keep the option open though that this is not true, and he is for example a mole for "the deep state", but from all I have seen by now I would bet pretty much on the exact opposite. I could be wrong though. Here are some of the signs that have led me towards that preliminary “conclusion“:
- Vance famous speech last year in Europe, which I think he himself likely wrote.
- Vance reaction towards Zelenskyy in the White House the first time he was there. In significant ways, I think what went down there was how Vance reacted to that clown, which is something he wouldn't have needed to do and probably any mole wouldn't have done, especially in that way. I think it was probably a heartfelt thing, and Vance just sort of had enough and said the obvious to that puppet in front of the world.
- Vance connection to Charlie Kirk and what he wrote and said about him after he was killed. Kirk was the primary player that got Vance into the White House, I think. Vance was going as far as being the guy that was carrying Kirks coffin.
- By all indications (above anyone else in the political sphere) Charlie Kirk loved J.D. Vance and if you have watched the above video with Tucker, Kirk was saying, as long as there is J.D. Vance, that he doesn't have to consider becoming president, rather clearly implying that Vance is the guy and as long as he is in charge there is no need for him to do it since Vance is doing a better job.
- People like Tucker sometimes ambiguously and often quite openly are vouching for Vance by essentially saying that he is a rather unique and trustworthy character. Yes, we know that for example Tucker is not that aware of Psychopathy and how people like himself, without that knowledge, can be fooled by them. Yet Tucker surely has developed some kind of nose and taste for evil/sneaky people because he has "been friends" and in close contact with many of them. So I think Tucker could have developed some hard-earned nose for smelling people like that. So I tend to believe that when he is vouching for someone, it might very well be because that person is indeed decent and trustworthy.
- Vance and Kirk seem to have been close friends and allies.
- As mentioned elsewhere, even before Trump got president, it was clear that ordinary people like Vance quite a bit more than Trump. Look at how he was and is received in MAGA crowds. They cheer for him more than for anyone else. That is, maybe besides Kirk, whom they have killed now.
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Vance decided in the first memorial show of Kirk to put Tucker Carlson on air, and Tucker addressed Israel there.
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Vance final words in Kirks Memorial speech not only say that he can't promise that other Americans will not meet Charlies fate, but that he can't promise that he himself will not meet that fate either while saying the following, which is very powerful IMO. And I bet my ass off that Vance knows full well the role of Mossad/CIA and Co. and that they killed Kirk and others.:
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