Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

We'll see how this plays out and it has my conspiracy thinking going. The Dems/Globalists have their various plans to use millions of people they brought in under Biden. Most of the people on food stamps are these people. Stop food funding and civil unrest ensues, chaos, perfect. This is why it will be stopped OSIT. No wins for the Dems and their tactics turn more people against them. It's not only food that can be affected but a whole list of other systems. Let the Dems make themselves look like sh*t then pull the plug before real damage is done by the Senate like MTG said. Political theater on display with the house speaker and Republicans giving their press briefings. It better go this way anyway!

Having people supported by the government has always been part of the corrupted side of the Democrat party.
 
And simply regularly tell Trump and his team that certain things just are not acceptable and that not all and everything should be selfishly done for American/-s with little to no regard or awareness of the rest of the world that has also rights and concerns.
What examples can you give of Trump disregarding others in the world this way?
 
Another thought. This agreement to keep the present funding in place, which the Dems refused, is only to keep things going for another 6 weeks or something like that, then the whole process starts over again unfortunately.
 
What examples can you give of Trump disregarding others in the world this way?

Too many to mention I‘m afraid and I would think many are kinda obvious. Four examples:

The rights and legitimate interests of the “eastern“ MAJORITY of the globe, commonly referred to as the emerging multipolar world. Extreme examples include his treatment of Russia compared to “lovely Ukraine“. His treatment of “bad China“ is another example, seemingly having little trouble if needed to totally crush “the opponent“ economically if America doesn’t get his so called “fair share“ (while China isn’t even really and opponent in the evil sense for any sane thinking person, or at the very least, if you really want to think in that way, by far not the most dangerous one). His treatment of Venezuela and its leadership. His recent treatment of Iran against all international norms everyone is supposed to abide by, but not America and the rest of the “glorious“ Israel/West world.

I guess what I’m saying is that it should be voiced especially by people in his camp more often that it is more than just a little rude and not ok to treat anything outside of America as expendable in the sole interest of “America/-ns first“ just as if the US somehow exists in a vacuum in the world. I don’t think an “after me the flood“ attitude towards the rest of the world in the sole interest of America/-ns is a very healthy thing and should pointed out to him more often by his supporters.
 
Also another thing that is kinda obvious for most of the world and Trump might not really fully get, while some of his supporters might be in a better position to understand and point out to him:

America and many Americans have accumulated a quite staggering amount of (not only karmic) debts globally that has resulted in untold deaths, chaos and suffering in the world for decades. And obviously especially the people that were directly affected by it (lets just pick “middle east“ here) are keenly aware of it while also knowing that in America many glorious “heroes“ run around freely who not only totally destroyed their states indirectly and directly but also killed their loved ones directly (the overwhelming majority being totally innocent civilians including many woman and children). Gee, who would have thought that there might be some grievances and mistrust coming from those places against anything coming from there over the ocean “in great free land, best country and people of all time“. Maybe Trump should be reminded about that as well from time to time from his supporters?
 
The rights and legitimate interests of the “eastern“ MAJORITY of the globe, commonly referred to as the emerging multipolar world. Extreme examples include his treatment of Russia compared to “lovely Ukraine“. His treatment of “bad China“ is another example, seemingly having little trouble if needed to totally crush “the opponent“ economically if America doesn’t get his so called “fair share“ (while China isn’t even really and opponent in the evil sense for any sane thinking person, or at the very least, if you really want to think in that way, by far not the most dangerous one). His treatment of Venezuela and its leadership. His recent treatment of Iran against all international norms everyone is supposed to abide by, but not America and the rest of the “glorious“ Israel/West world.

Goodness, I have opened a can of worms! What you say here are the views I'd expect to hear, nothing new. The difference in how we see the current administration and what it does is, I see a lot of political theater and posturing coming from Trump and I've learned not to take things at face value and say thats it. The world has already been well primed to expect the worst from the US so thats what they see in many cases. Russia is treated badly you say, which I see as an appeasement to the DS, tell them what they want to hear while covertly cooperating with Russia which is happening. Trump, in his first term, said he wanted cooperation with Russia which brought the jackals onto his back. No real harm has been brought to Russia from Trump that I see. China, you think there is no globalist, power hungry faction there? Surely they are busy helping the people around the world with a friendly smile on their face bringing them out of poverty? I'm not so trusting and I'm quite sane. China facilitated the recent invasion of the US though Venezuela for one. There is video evidence of this with the towns and encampments they set up full of Chinese then moved into the US. What about back door access to computer systems bought from China all over the US? Haven't we been told China is the new globalist model?

Should we just brush aside this famous speech by a CCP general who described the take over of the US as necessary since his people needed their land? And also world dominance is the objective. Bioweapons sound good.

It is indeed brutal to kill one or two hundred million Americans. But that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century in which the CCP leads the World. We, as revolutionary humanitarians, do not want deaths. But if history confronts us with a choice between deaths of Chinese and those of Americans, we’d have to pick the latter, as, for us, it is more important to safeguard the lives of the Chinese people and the life of our Party. That is because, after all, we are Chinese and members of the CCP. Since the day we joined the CCP, the Party, life has always been above all else! History will prove that we made the right choice.

Trump to crush China is pure hyperbole. And Venezuela, more going on then meets the eye, no doubt. What happened in Iran which is so hideous? He warned everyone to move out, no lives lost. A deep hole in the ground to stop bb's excuse for invasion.

America and many Americans have accumulated a quite staggering amount of (not only karmic) debts globally that has resulted in untold deaths, chaos and suffering in the world for decades. And obviously especially the people that were directly affected by it (lets just pick “middle east“ here) are keenly aware of it while also knowing that in America many glorious “heroes“ run around freely who not only totally destroyed their states indirectly and directly but also killed their loved ones directly (the overwhelming majority being totally innocent civilians including many woman and children). Gee, who would have thought that there might be some grievances and mistrust coming from those places against anything coming from there over the ocean “in great free land, best country and people of all time“. Maybe Trump should be reminded about that as well from time to time from his supporters?
You refer to the long standing infiltration of the US by globalists whose main branch of oppression around the world is/was the CIA. This doesn't reside only in the US but they've set up their systems in every country around the world. It is said they work outside the US government and aren't even a part of it. It's roots point predominately to European sources. This is the dark ones plans for world control of course, the Nazis didn't loose the war. So the karma they created lays on the backs of millions of innocent people who did nothing to cause this destruction and didn't even know it was going on? Hmm, I'll question that.

At this point it doesn't matter much to me what many in the world think of the US. The majority elected a president whose plans for the country they approve of and want to see. Not one of the old corruption and exploitation but with more decent values.. They where never a part of the dark overlords plans only in so far as they could be exploited and robbed, and in the end when all value was squeezed out.... killed.

Others may scoff at these words "home of the free", but those are very important words. So if you throw Trump in with the same old bunch, ok, but he's different. The world has good reason not to trust the US for past deeds. That will only change with good deeds which we are looking for. No credit for what happened with Gaza and Israel? Trump brought the Arab countries together and they surrounded Israel, so no more expansion for them. Looks like Israel is being put in its place for once. I always said Trump wasn't subservient to Israel, maybe he just made it look that way.

Things are not what they first appear to be quite often. Actually, it looks to me Trump is very thoughtful of the lives of regular people around the world. Disagree if you choose, it doesn't matter. You will know them by their fruits if you can see them.
 
From what I can see I still think that one of Trumps main if not primarily concerns is “making America great again“ and that largely includes to make it a better place for ordinary Americans. From that perspective it is somewhat understandable that Trump views much if not all things “as correct actions“ that other peoples and states in other countries justifiably and rightfully view as unfair and also often infused with little to no regard to what consequences it has for them/others.
It's a pity he's betrayed the American People for his Israeli donors/blackmailers, then. :-( I think a great deal of people who previously supported him feel betrayed by him.
 
At this point it doesn't matter much to me what many in the world think of the US. The majority elected a president whose plans for the country they approve of and want to see. Not one of the old corruption and exploitation but with more decent values.
Why would you think that the world outside the US is opposed to that? What is being criticized is exactly the opposite.

The US does seem to have heavy karma and according to the C's, its destruction in one way or another is unavoidable. What seems to be open is the extent and the timing.
 
Trump, in his first term, said he wanted cooperation with Russia which brought the jackals onto his back. No real harm has been brought to Russia from Trump that I see.

No. Real harm has been done towards Russia by Trump in his first term. Something that could have easily totally crushed any other country including Russia if it wouldn’t have planned ahead so thoroughly many years ago and wouldn’t have had a sane/decent competent leadership. As Putin rightfully pointed out before Trump got elected again: It was actually Trump and not Biden/Dems that introduced the most extreme and extensive sanctions against Russia, therefore it was logical for Putin to not say that he would prefer another Trump administration over a Biden/Dems one.

China, you think there is no globalist, power hungry faction there? Surely they are busy helping the people around the world with a friendly smile on their face bringing them out of poverty? I'm not so trusting and I'm quite sane. China facilitated the recent invasion of the US though Venezuela for one. There is video evidence of this with the towns and encampments they set up full of Chinese then moved into the US. What about back door access to computer systems bought from China all over the US? Haven't we been told China is the new globalist model?

Should we just brush aside this famous speech by a CCP general who described the take over of the US as necessary since his people needed their land? And also world dominance is the objective. Bioweapons sound good.

Trump to crush China is pure hyperbole.

I basically think that many Americans have been brainwashed to see/project their own dangers and wrongdoings primarily onto others such as China. Does that mean that China isn’t doing something? No, not necessarily. Does that mean that China might even do quite nefarious things towards the US? Yes. But even if that should be the case (which I wouldn’t discount) how come many Americans can’t understand or don’t care much for the pretty simple/bad/bloody recent history of America in the world and things like cause and effect?

What happened in Iran which is so hideous? He warned everyone to move out, no lives lost. A deep hole in the ground to stop bb's excuse for invasion.

Yes of course Trump avoided the worst in the way he did the Iran thing, but still, the fact remains the way he did it was (as almost always with america) in violation of international norms. Rules American/West/Israel are ignoring too often to count while any other countries outside the glorious west that do so too (in reality or not) are treated by enormous and deadly double standards.

You refer to the long standing infiltration of the US by globalists whose main branch of oppression around the world is/was the CIA. This doesn't reside only in the US but they've set up their systems in every country around the world. It is said they work outside the US government and aren't even a part of it. It's roots point predominately to European sources. This is the dark ones plans for world control of course, the Nazis didn't loose the war. So the karma they created lays on the backs of millions of innocent people who did nothing to cause this destruction and didn't even know it was going on? Hmm, I'll question that.

I think it is way to easy to excuse the personal responsibilities of many Americans and officially known leadership such as Bush and Obama, by saying it was all the fault of this “secret global infiltration“. Obviously, many Americans including known leadership have chosen, over and over again, to do very dark things not only all around the globe but also in their own country.

At this point it doesn't matter much to me what many in the world think of the US.

And that is a problem IMO.

No credit for what happened with Gaza and Israel? Trump brought the Arab countries together and they surrounded Israel, so no more expansion for them. Looks like Israel is being put in its place for once. I always said Trump wasn't subservient to Israel, maybe he just made it look that way.

Credit for Trump trying and at least shortly being able to stop much of the bloodshed there. Having said that, anyone with just a little knowledge of recent history and the nature of the forces in Israel/US knows that it is very unlikely that this is really such a big/huge deal that will hold for any longer length of time.
 
There is concern in Mexico and Latin America about mass layoffs in the United States. Amazon and other companies appear to be working together with President Trump to bring jobs to America, but instead, mass layoffs have begun thanks to the strategy of intensifying the use of AI.​

Layoff Tracker 2025 – Recent Layoffs

  • October 29, 2025: Paramount will lay off roughly 2,000 workers across the media company.
  • October 28, 2025: UPS announced layoffs of 48,000 employees—14,000 in management positions and 34,000 in operations roles.
  • October 28, 2025: Amazon announced it would cut 14,000 jobs.
  • October 27, 2025: General Motors has let go of over 200 salaried employees, mainly CAD engineers, at its Michigan tech campus.
  • October 25, 2025: Target will lay off around 1,000 employees.
  • October 24, 2025: Sika posts lower nine-month sales and plans up to 1,500 job cuts.

Amazon to lay off 30,000 employees, according to report​

The efficiency generated by artificial intelligence, robotics, and algorithms not only enables new opportunities but also reduces the need for certain traditional profiles.

For Latin America and Mexico, the impact of these adjustments will have its own nuances, but this does not mean it will be any less significant. Many of the big tech companies operate shared service centers, subsidiaries, regional hubs, and outsourcing contracts that could be affected by global staff reductions or slower growth and hiring. However, there are currently no details on where these layoffs will take place.

Amazon's shares rose 1.5% after the news, and the company's results are expected this week, which will confirm how many operational changes it will make.


Big Tech is paying for Trump’s White House ballroom​


While the U.S. government remains in limbo during a shutdown, the White House grounds have been busy this week. Construction workers have begun demolition of the White House’s East Wing, which will be replaced by a 90,000-square-foot ballroom that’s estimated to hold up to 1,000 guests.

Taxpayers are not funding President Donald Trump’s $250 million project. Rather, he is using private donations to construct his lavish addition to the White House.

The White House released a list of the project’s funders on Thursday, which include some of the most influential American tech companies, like Amazon, Apple, Google, Meta, and Microsoft, as well as defense companies like Palantir and Lockheed Martin and telecom providers like Comcast and T-Mobile. The crypto industry is also represented among the White House ballroom donors, with money coming from Coinbase, Ripple, Tether America, and the Winklevoss twins.

 
Should we just brush aside this famous speech by a CCP general who described the take over of the US as necessary since his people needed their land? And also world dominance is the objective. Bioweapons sound good.


I checked the article you linked which says it was first "translated" by the Epoch Times, which is a well known propaganda outlet and often completely fabricates stuff. Do you have any other evidence that this story is true?

 
Cosmos, I'm not going to continue with this conversation with you. It's clear we are miles apart on our views here and I don't see any point to address most of your replies. I've already stated my points of view, you can find flaws or say I'm wrong but it doesn't change what I see.
I basically think that many Americans have been brainwashed to see/project their own dangers and wrongdoings primarily onto others such as China.
I basically think many people around the world have been brainwashed to think the Americans have been brainwashed to project their own faults/wrong doing onto China. I've come to that conclusion after seeing how people rush to China's defense whenever something negative is mentioned about China here. I have said before. I have lived all my life in the USA and there has never been such a brainwashing dump on the people against China, Russia yes, China no. A lot of brainwashing propaganda has been dumped on the entire world.

So, these awful sanctions on Russia made them stronger and independent, not so bad. It's a very good thing Russia and the USA are working together now! It calls for celebration.
Credit for Trump trying and at least shortly being able to stop much of the bloodshed there. Having said that, anyone with just a little knowledge of recent history and the nature of the forces in Israel/US knows that it is very unlikely that this is really such a big/huge deal that will hold for any longer length of time.
Of course, no big deal. Rinse and repeat. My ignorance of history is appalling (sarcasm).

At this point it doesn't matter much to me what many in the world think of the US.

And that is a problem IMO.

Why should I care about so many things I see as lies and ugliness. Over and out. I'm not up for debate. People see things differently and thank goodness for that!

 
Cosmos, I'm not going to continue with this conversation with you. It's clear we are miles apart on our views here and I don't see any point to address most of your replies. I've already stated my points of view, you can find flaws or say I'm wrong but it doesn't change what I see.
The main reason for networking is to arrive at a more objective perception of reality, which is crucial. This includes examining any of our potential 'sacred cow' beliefs, instead of refusing to network and question whether what we see or believe may be inaccurate.
 
A rather major and unexpected development recently is Japan's pivot towards China and away from the US:

The newly inaugurated Prime Minister of Japan, Sanae Takaishi, had widely been expected, on taking office, to deliver strong anti-China rhetoric; to strengthen the alliance with the U.S.; to boost Japan's military power; and to contain Beijing.

Yet, the opposite happened.

In her first address to the nation, Takaishi said that she would not support the U.S. trade war against China, and would not become an instrument of U.S. economic pressure. She openly criticised Trump's tariff policy, calling it 'the most dangerous mistake of the 21st century'.

Reuters commented that her stance was wholly unexpected in Washington. A big shock. It emerged that since taking office, the new PM had held a series of meetings with the largest Japanese corporations who had conveyed a unified and urgent message to her: Simply - the Japanese economy would not survive another trade war.

Then, one week after taking office, she openly expressed support for China, executing the biggest foreign policy pivot since WW2. China was no longer the 'enemy'.


A new era in Asia has arrived. Trump is in shock: He accused Takaishi of betraying the principles of free trade. CNN called it a 'stab in the back', by a close ally.

But worse was to come: Polls showed the PM enjoyed 60% support for her stance on Japanese economic independence - and more than 50% supported her position on China, too!

Bloomberg dropped a further bombshell: Takaishi has begun - in conjunction with China and South Korea - a strategic recalibration of Asia's monetary architecture in response to Washington's growing use of economic power as leverage. China, Japan, and South Korea are building a common currency area. The proposed trilateral swap would allow the three to settle trade, extend liquidity, and manage crises through their own currencies - entirely independently from the West.

Were these projects to mature, it would chip away at the scaffolding of dollar primacy by removing 15% of global trading from the dollar sphere, and would likely see the entire existing (pro-western) Asian balance of power collapse.

It goes further: Takaishi's vision would mesh with the SCO/BRICS unfolding of its digital clearing system across all of Central Asia. Yet Trump wants the BRICS dismantled, together with any other threats to U.S. dollar hegemony. Expect escalation - more threats of tariffs.

 
Eventually, the Empire turns against its citizens. They begin with the "invading" enemy of "good manners" and Judeo-Christian values.​

It reminds me of Valerie's letter in V for Vendetta:
In 1988 there was the war, and after that there were no more roses. Not for anybody. In 1992 they started rounding up the gays. They took Ruth while she was out looking for food. V for Vendetta

This is not fabricated—it's a breaking story with uniform reporting across left-leaning (Guardian, WaPo), centrist (Reuters, Axios), and right-leaning sources.

Pentagon readying thousands of Guard ‘reaction forces’ as U.S. mission widens​

The Pentagon has ordered thousands of specialized National Guard personnel to complete civil unrest mission training over the next several months, an indication that the Trump administration’s effort to send uniformed military forces into urban centers — once reserved for extraordinary emergencies — could become the norm.

The Defense Department’s newly established “quick reaction force” within the National Guard must be trained, equipped with riot-control gear and ready for deployment by Jan. 1, according to internal documents reviewed by The Washington Post. The 200 troops will be drawn from National Guard personnel whose primary focus is responding to disasters like nuclear accidents and terrorist attacks, the documents said.

An existing separate but similar structure, the National Guard Reaction Force, is expected to complete civil unrest training and be fully operational by April 1. The total size of the force will be 23,500 troops across all 50 states and three territories, excluding the District of Columbia, the documents say. Most states will supply 500 personnel for the reaction force, with the rest falling between 250 and 450.

The mandate, along with the growing presence of federal and immigration enforcement officers, suggests further military deployments within the United States could grow in size and scope. The deployments, which President Donald Trump has described as a bid to quell violence and crime, have infuriated Democratic governors in multiple states, who have fought the president’s deployments through litigation.

The Defense Department did not respond to a request for comment. A defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe military planning, said the Pentagon is “revising plans for the employment of [National Guard Reaction Forces] to guarantee their ability to assist federal, state and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturban


We have a dangerous mix: mass layoffs, unemployment, crazy liberals, eager conservatives, an ice age. The stage is set for full spectrum control.
(Perceval) I was wondering about these WalMart store closures. There were five stores closed across southern US states, from Florida to California. They gave an explanation of "plumbing problems". They told employees on the day they closed them. They walked in, and they said basically, "You're all fired at the end of today." They're closing the doors due to plumbing issues, and they said this same thing at each of the five stores. 2200 people across 5 stores lost their jobs.

(Andromeda) And they were doing well, so it wasn't a money issue.

(Perceval) One of them was in the top 10 for sales in the US, and there are like 1500 stores total. Anyway, they gave a bogus explanation of plumbing repairs, but that's been refuted by everybody. Everyone said they never saw a single plumbing problem, no plumbers, no nothing. Even mainstream media news reports on it are saying that this plumbing explanation is obviously bullshit. So, people in the conspiracy community have started linking it with this Jade Helm exercises later in the year. They're saying the stores will be turned into prison camps, detention centers, whatever... It's all crazy stuff. I don't think that's true, but the question is then: Why were these stores closed?

A: Influences of a cosmic nature.

Q: (Perceval) In the fringe conspiracy domain, they're all going crazy about this. A lot of people are talking about this, like Sorcha Faal. One of her sites, EU Times, just makes tons of claims with no sources to back it up. There was stuff about how all WalMarts are connected by underground tunnels across the USA, and that the US military uses these WalMarts as logistics centers.

(Andromeda) Um, that's not very practical... And detention centers is impractical because they're gonna need a LOT more space than that, obviously. So, it's very mysterious...

(L) So what does "cosmic influences" mean?

A: Full spectrum dominance of 4D STS helpers. [answer comes slowly, and gets a bit stuck at "helpers"]
 
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